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asciilifeform: http://www.sherline.com/images/3CUBES11.jpg << roundcube
asciilifeform: ferfuxxsake
asciilifeform: prolly because your squirrelmail install treats the attachments as mime/txt or whatnot and decides 'eligible for genitalmutilation!!'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw note that your clearsigned ~and~ detach-signed texts are getting mutilated alike.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#920339 ☝︎
asciilifeform: can't find it in log, but iirc this was solved by voodooistically adding a guaranteed trailing newline to all ascii.
asciilifeform digs in log
asciilifeform: somebody ~had~ this problem
asciilifeform: hmm
asciilifeform: two variants 1) wait till i'm done writing the wwwtronic upload box thing (could be tomorrow night, i'm spending the morning pulling cable)
asciilifeform: can't have 1+2.
asciilifeform: that's pretty much it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'v' elementarily cannot work with 1) gpg 2) non-detached sigs.
asciilifeform: (the later never comes, we have ran out of universe)
asciilifeform: because otherwise, enemy can upload a petabyte of garbage, and the sig is not seen until later
asciilifeform: trivially, it is impossible to have a thing like what i am making now, where the sig is not uploaded first
asciilifeform: no, but the signature - can.
asciilifeform: it is the thing that was signed.
asciilifeform: sig. and payload.
asciilifeform: it is two.
asciilifeform: it isn't one item !
asciilifeform: and how the fuck is a sig to be attached to a binary ?
asciilifeform: how the fuck is more than one person supposed to sign something without detached sigs ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was all the more frustrating to me because 1) i suggested it 2) couldn't think of any genuine improvement
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: it, too, was mutilated earlier.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what of the message body ?
asciilifeform: but same idea.
asciilifeform: where i'm from we call it, approx., 'flushing'
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: (presumably to distract from the ones still whole ?)
asciilifeform: the one thing that i don't get is why mr schmuck is blowing a usgtron open
asciilifeform: control-alt-shift-meta-hyper-modelock aha
asciilifeform: now mircea_popescu gets to froth like i did, lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actual . ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hexdump -C foo1 > foo1.hex; hexdump -C foo2 > foo2.hex; diff foo1.hex foo2.hex
asciilifeform: (even 'gmail' ferfuxxsake doesn't!)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have squirrelmail on my end, and it does not mangle attachments.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i vagualy recall an old thread where someone identified a misconfiguration which leads to this.
asciilifeform: (for some purposes anyway)
asciilifeform: trinque: understand, if it includes your actual subkeys, it can go unnoticed
asciilifeform: wot
asciilifeform: rather than a cosmic-rayed superset
asciilifeform wonders how many folks verified that the key on file is actually the one they expect
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all sv gasbags use the same 'clip art' with starving africans holding iPnohes - i could've toldya that
asciilifeform: (in the south, 3!!)
asciilifeform: whereas pi is 3.14159...
asciilifeform: so 1,275 is 1275 in the land of mordor.
asciilifeform: (american traditional floating point is the comma, e.g., a thousand and one nights, 1,001)
asciilifeform: actual knob in qt!
asciilifeform: but this is correct american notation.
asciilifeform: glorious
asciilifeform: inside tar, payload & sigs as before.
asciilifeform: (no gz, it is an attack vector)
asciilifeform: i was just gonna have the thing eat tars.
asciilifeform: aka uuencode.
asciilifeform: can armour plaintext, y'know
asciilifeform does not regard boxes he doesn't personally keep behind a locked door with cameras etc. as cryptoworthy
asciilifeform: something i like to avoid if it can be avoided.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that'd mean having keys on the serv end
asciilifeform: punkman: because i, too, grew tired.
asciilifeform: punkman: i am making this.
asciilifeform: https://cryptome.org/2015/09/nnsa-iranian-target.htm << lulzy
asciilifeform: my observation was that he neglected to mention what was meant by 'accidental factors of a corrupted public key', and the most prominent prior art.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and i think he was talking about an ssl turd, rather than anything from phuctor ?
asciilifeform: gpg: BAD signature from "Mircea Popescu (Acest articol are apriori avantajul aliteralitatii alaturi.) <office@polimedia.us>"
asciilifeform: gpg: Signature made Fri Sep 4 19:06:50 2015 EDT using RSA key ID 2FB7B452
asciilifeform: $ gpg --verify florianweimer-general.asc
asciilifeform: gpg: BAD signature from "Mircea Popescu (Acest articol are apriori avantajul aliteralitatii alaturi.) <office@polimedia.us>"
asciilifeform: gpg: Signature made Fri Sep 4 18:26:16 2015 EDT using RSA key ID 2FB7B452
asciilifeform: $ gpg --verify florianweimer.txt.asc
asciilifeform: neither sig verifies.
asciilifeform: or not!
asciilifeform: sig verifies..
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i got it, but ml didn't...
asciilifeform: one possible variant would be to permit l1 folks to deedbot arbitrary detached signatures, and then accept via mail any document that matches the signature (one per, or we get dosed)
asciilifeform: ftr i happen to think that the turdatron is an abomination, but presently i have no idea what could be used instead. in fact, iirc i was the one to suggest the current scheme.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000145.html << good example of how to use turdatron. click on the links to see each of the three attachments verbatim.
asciilifeform: gotta use armoured.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and it dun work with binary signature for anything.
asciilifeform: about half done, at this moment.
asciilifeform: <trinque> maybe becomes a function of the web page viewer for V ? << i am writing one.
asciilifeform: because SOME FUCKTARDATION MUTILATES THE ASCII
asciilifeform: in fact, if i do it any other way, it dies
asciilifeform: body can also consist of attachment, in the form: 1st attach: body.txt (clearsigned text)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here's how i do it: 1) clearsigned (asciiarmoured) body. 2) attachment 3) signature (asciiarmoured, detached) of attachment, having the filename attach.foo.sig for every attach.foo ☟︎
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: usg 'expellas furca, tamen usque recurret' (tm) ☟︎
asciilifeform: usg is a planetary infestation, 'kicked out' is really a feeble and temporary thing.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262509 << ahahahahaha. they aren't 'kicked out' until 1) they haven't the option of returning, while 2) pharma-grade cocaine is sold for five cents on every street corner in santa cruz, and for export by the million tonnes ☝︎
asciilifeform had a tremendous house in this dream, with many spiral staircases, etc
asciilifeform had an interesting dream as he slept. dreamt that he had occasion, for some reason, to call the cops. they came, and instead of registering whatever complaint (something involving cars) began to fill up his house, room by room, until seemingly no more could fit, but continued to pack, pack, until walls began to crack under the sheer pressure of meat
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you've got mail
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: http://qntra.net/2015/09/xt-node-blacklists-fail-to-prevent-ddos-attack/#comment-51035
asciilifeform: ergo i see absolutely no reason for it to have a built-in su
asciilifeform: where you could have su'd prior
asciilifeform: mc runs ~in~ a terminal
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262479 << why would you want to ? ☝︎