asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: said exe contains (in my copy) a bitwise-unchanged copy of 'mulisp-87' and a savelispanddie image of derive's engine appended after.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: came with a buncha generated crud, for illustrative purposes
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: the thing itself lives in one exe.
asciilifeform: no sourceball for 'derive' was ever publicly discovered.
asciilifeform: it means that when something does not work as expected, you can immediately rule out 'unknown knob'
asciilifeform: this totality - there is no substitute for it.
asciilifeform: try that with a modern symbolic maths package.
asciilifeform: but the interface of 'derive' certainly did.
asciilifeform: it is even conceivable that the guts would have fit in your head, had they been exposed
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: the 'not bothered' part is also demonstrably false.
asciilifeform: (note that this is not a null set, but i don't expect to hear any correct answer just now)
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: what did your neolithic folks ~demonstrably~ have, that, e.g., i, want but do not have?
asciilifeform: 'it was wisdomy and truthy damnit' doesn't cut it.
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: can you describe one of the 'wise men' and his wisdom in terms that any of us might apprehend ?
asciilifeform: incidentally, i notice that aficionados of crying for the indians for some odd reason cry preferentially for the ones clobbered earlier and more thoroughly, leaving not so much as a wet spot (e.g., arawak) vs the later ones who learned horse and rifle and gave white man a run for his money
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: the 'magical wisdom of harmony with mother earth' thing won't fly. but my personal favourite crackpottery re: the indians, and one which has at least a pinch of actual historical support, is that they had to be bugsprayed to keep agricultural white man from defecting.
asciilifeform: in reality, say the place today called california could have supported 50,000 healthy stone age folk, or 100,000 barely-alive ripe-for-smallpox.
asciilifeform: so the lsd aficionados get illusion of 'in harmony with enviro'
asciilifeform: it simply did not happen to be very high
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: elementarily, there was nothing magic about the 'red man' which kept him from breeding, like everybody else, to just short of over the carrying capacity of his lands
