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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They still use until consumed
ben_vulpes: going to parties, even
asciilifeform: more plausibly they eat alone, while watching anime
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have difficulty picturing the protagonists of $redditardmarket using 'at party'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: fwiw i have a very basic n00b level grasp of the constants in the equations - e.g. how much cocaine is eaten in a typical sitting, etc. so cannot comment usefully re grams << Typical cocaine use is gram after gram after gram after gram, I imagine mp or Tiger Woods level is sugar bowl or candy dish set out in advance
mircea_popescu: anyway. cocaine is one of those items that don't produice leftovers. party will expand until all available consumed.
asciilifeform: (i.e. less than typical ameritard's pnoje)
BingoBoingo: AHA and ~$5 to $10 at garage sale after original purchaser learns math
mircea_popescu: well now that all depends.
mircea_popescu: nah, the better ones are hundreds
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i can't picture the loose change thing being +ev << Well less ev if you get minesweeper at garage sale for 1/10th retail because initial purchaser realized -ev
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i have a very basic n00b level grasp of the constants in the equations - e.g. how much cocaine is eaten in a typical sitting, etc. so cannot comment usefully re grams
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> meanwhile irl, if you cut a brick of coke 3:1 and bury the resulting miligrams indisivuallty you will be digging a million ditches. << 3000, who gets less than a gram of coke?
asciilifeform: are they often met with ?
mircea_popescu: of course the larger one is ~1 dollar
mircea_popescu: great coins here, too, total dubloons
mircea_popescu: anyway, it has a fine profile to reeducate idiots. "dig-find-love" or how did that "book"/"movement" go
asciilifeform: when they run out of what to buy with
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dope aficionados presumably dig 'for truffle' to ~eat~, rather than sell
mircea_popescu: esp considering they doin't want them back
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is quite astonishing that usg still bothers to mint coins
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: it does seem to call into question your 'there is ~0 market for milligrams' thing << milligrams isn't a market, its retail
asciilifeform: incidentally it is in principle possible to make a ~cheap njd, that would fine moar valuable 'dropped item' in a day than a platoon of minesweepers
mircea_popescu: i don't even fucking take coins.
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : the per-hour value rummaging throughb park from finding drugz ~= from finding loose change.
asciilifeform: i suppose there are nuts, for whom ~nothing matters
mircea_popescu: i thought you didn't think that mattered
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i can't picture the loose change thing being +ev
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform drugs are already bezzled to all hell
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> dunno that this is so -- i routinely see folx with 'minesweepers' in, e.g., parks, looking for ??? << loose change
asciilifeform: and separately from any dilutions of the customary kind (which are , presumably , also in play)
asciilifeform: the other interesting aspect of '1,001 idjits vs 1 brick buyer' is that the former are somewhat accustomed to ~not finding anything~ in the indicated coords
asciilifeform: one way or another. 'uber', dope treasure, whichever.
asciilifeform: whole thing imho interesting ~solely from the perspective of '1mn hours of labour, yes, but unpaid'
asciilifeform: when i first heard of the practice, i also assumed 'in the forest, like gru agents' etc. -- but turns out, no, in park benches, rubbish bins.
mircea_popescu: so more like a game of childhood than anything
asciilifeform: 'there' turns out to be in public places, and both 'hiders' and 'seekers' routinely caught
mircea_popescu: still gotta get there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: according to the $sources, they dun dig 'ditch', but very low-effort and laughably shallow holes, with, e.g., duct tape 'flag' sticking out; underneath park benches; etc
BingoBoingo tried detangling logthread to figure out who got banned from what
mircea_popescu: the one that got bannered
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> hm. BingoBoingo see if dood wants to write a qntra post ? http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you and all that. << Which dude where?
mircea_popescu: farming them out to ourdemocracy "ngo"s comes to mind.
mircea_popescu: there's better things to do with an army of obedient dorks ready to die than this.
mircea_popescu: even if such a dig takes less than one hour of derp's time and no transportation, the fact remains that 1mn hours of minimum wage are > 1mn $ even in russhitia ; wheas a brick of anything is < 100k.
asciilifeform: but i see nothing inherently fantastic about the notion that 1,001 derps each of whom buys a ??? of unknown purity for 1,001% markup, could be +ev vs conventional 'brick' buyer.
asciilifeform: again , whole thing could be ~fabrication. but not mine, but of ru prosecutors. https://archive.is/8Gzus << example from 2016.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this part exists entirely in the fantasticly fertile imagination that also has them on boats.
mircea_popescu: link to the "about 1mn ditches per brick" piece.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile irl, if you cut a brick of coke 3:1 and bury the resulting miligrams indisivuallty you will be digging a million ditches.
mircea_popescu: where is such thing reported, other than your own reading.
mircea_popescu: reddit trendoid thing is "omg 3d printing GUNZ!!!" as well as "OMG USPS DRUGZZ!!!" etc
asciilifeform: if the 'dead drop dope' thing is actually true as reported -- it is a 'britneyization', the dealer replaces 1 mircea_popescu with 10,001 milligramderps
mircea_popescu: and if i'm going to go dig up rabbit, im not digging up a spoonfull, im digging up enough to fill freezer.
asciilifeform: for all i know -- whole thing is a fabrication
asciilifeform: unless whole thing is disinfo.
mircea_popescu: i think you're supplementing by imagination all sorts of corners. there's a cost to bury.
asciilifeform: seems like there is massive set of dope aficionados that wants milligram AND wants no-face-meeting
asciilifeform: and, in same piece, the 'meatless contraband is a reddit trendoid thing and will vanish soon' thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it does seem to call into question your 'there is ~0 market for milligrams' thing
asciilifeform: but considering that the apparent arrangement stands and falls wholly on wotronics -- i'd guess pretty well.
asciilifeform: as for how the wotronics are managed -- i have nfi
asciilifeform: operator never sets foot within 3000km of all of this. just sends, receives coin.
asciilifeform: and takes photos, records coords of ea.
asciilifeform: i.e. operator sits far, far away, and pays lieutenant to obtain 500g of $substance and bury. then 'packager' gets coordinates, and excavates, then reburies in aliquots of 1g
asciilifeform: the moar interesting, imho, aspect of the ru buriedtreasure thing is that ( again, thirdhandedly ) it is managed as a pure 'btc-in btc-out' operation
mircea_popescu: somehow that dun count.
asciilifeform: in fact '3d print' takes an astonishing amount of work. extremely finicky process, takes much 'babysit'
a111: Logged on 2014-02-16 22:04 asciilifeform: son: 'whatdoyamean i gotta dip them'
mircea_popescu: it's always the same thing with these shitstains. http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-16#509011 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: cnc milling takes work.
asciilifeform: ( re '3d print pistol', i strongly suspect that whole thing is a psyop, to distract from cheap and effective cnc milling )
mircea_popescu: there's a reason silk road failed to attract as much business as a lemonade stand.
mircea_popescu: well, the druggies happen to be === the redditards, so.
asciilifeform: the latter will, yes, dwell on toy choppers etc
asciilifeform: again, plenty of 'honest cunning' among the us folx. but you won't read of it in the beobachter reddit, no.
mircea_popescu: you know, cuz he's seen a 3d printer once, so totally.
mircea_popescu: ask one. to the fried up mind of the ustarded consumer, "that'd be tantamount to synthesizing the item myself"
mircea_popescu: consumers, dude. they're willing to say some magic incantations / "use the juice", but they ain't fucking willing to not use the post office.
asciilifeform: dunno that this is so -- i routinely see folx with 'minesweepers' in, e.g., parks, looking for ???
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 16:01 mircea_popescu: course ustards are too useless to dig anything
asciilifeform: where there is plenty of good landscape for such
asciilifeform: re 'buried treasure', i'm somewhat surprised that this approach did not (afaik) catch on in usa
asciilifeform: arguably there already.
mircea_popescu: would be funny if all that's left of white civilisation in a century or two is a collection of inexplicable nutty habits, such as ^
asciilifeform: also reportedly parks, benches, etc in various towns became a comical sight , where diggers rummage in the earth, like truffle pigs, looking for ???
asciilifeform: reportedly, the 'emplacers' regularly get picked up by police and sentenced to 20y, but this, naturally, does 0, new ones -- appear when needed
mircea_popescu: not what it is. dealer always gives out freebies to interested parties who can wait.
asciilifeform: the interesting bit re ru is that the dope parcels buried are so small that the operators make ~0 attempt to interfere with 'treasure hunters' who paid 0
asciilifeform: 'leave the film cassette betweeen 15th and 16th brick in such-such wall' etc
mircea_popescu: to this day, give or take.
shinohai: This is also known thing in city where one gets texted a "drop point" that requires recipient to find geocache of sorts
mircea_popescu: course ustards are too useless to dig anything ☟︎
asciilifeform: iirc we discussed it here, as a theoretical.
asciilifeform: meanwhile lulz in ru world : their version of 'silkroad' , but the local custom is to use burial in public places, rather than parcels via the post. so various folx go and... dig 'for treasure'
mircea_popescu: you kidding ? everyone wanna talk! they're just happy if anyone's even giving the appearance of listening.
shinohai: Read that the other day, *own son* ratted on him at one point. Omerta is ded.
asciilifeform: meanwhile also in the fishwrap, http://archive.is/t9BoT >> 'Reputed New York gangster released from prison at age 100' << '... in and out of prison for much of his adult life ... most recently incarcerated, at the age of 93 in 2010, for a racketeering conspiracy involving the shakedown of New York strip clubs.'
asciilifeform: 'Path Towards Europe' (tm)(r) etc
asciilifeform: shinohai: nono, see, the ukrs are Officially Nao Europe