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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i am thinking we oughta install a simple mains voltage logger (i've witnessed in the past, brownouts which took out 1 box ( where current load at the moment happened to exceed what's in the ps caps ) while leaving dozen others untouched.. )
asciilifeform: it's an interesting 'upside-down world', where, e.g., addition costs ~moar~ than multiplication ( i will leave as exercise, how it is done )
asciilifeform: 1 of the reasons i put this in the l0gz is that when i went to dig, turned up that erry attempt to date to do sumthing nontrivial with 'stochastic multiplier' broke teeth against rng quality.
asciilifeform: you represent the inputs ( any # of'em ) via stochasticizers, i.e. each 1 gets a comparator that eats N bits of rng and outputs a 1 if they represent integer <= the currently latched binary number, 0 otherwise.
mircea_popescu: "you should have gone with pizarro" "i did this in 2015, where was pizarro ?" "mkay."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand , the guzman thing was even lulzier, d00d was hired to run the ~crypto~
mircea_popescu: let them whine here, i'll fucking explain it to them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm anticipating the whiners where 'you ~said~ you sell uncensored host, but they pulled my godaddy dns omfg!11' item
asciilifeform: nao if they could also be persuaded to part with usg.dns... but i'd be satisfied to teach 'wash hands' , smallpox vaccination can happen after
mircea_popescu: yeah, whining about how "red pillers" or w/e the fuck si the term de jour for inept morons/exterminators singing "i have seen the glory of the bloodletting at the zoo" while driving their beat up truck not reading is one thing. make pretty pictures is another thing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This time, don't saw your toothbrush. I can put together a reception basket with human sized toothbrush.
asciilifeform: and i'd really like, ideally, to not be the only one who knows how to do this.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun think there will be such a thing as 'low stakes' trip, unless mod6 wants to take vacation on own coin
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> iirc mod6 has expressed a desire to fly the next crate. if he still wants, can haz; otherwise asciilifeform will fly it. << Given the ben_vulpes courier run I would like mod6's first trip here to be lower stakes. Couriering is a skill.
asciilifeform: let's see if/what passengers appear in next week or two. after that, i'ma begin preparations for rk.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's why i bought'em
mircea_popescu: i meant, pizarro made more money as a financial vehicle, exploiting fx rates, than as an operator.
asciilifeform: i'm averse to putting moar than that on 1 ps however.
asciilifeform: i'd prefer to do this ~after~ the rk is made available to the affected folx.
asciilifeform: i'm still at a loss re why nobody makes rk, or for that matter any arm box, with upgradeable rams
asciilifeform: granted i haven't unearthed any direct evidence that uy1 is physically sad, of yet. but imho this is Right Thing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'd like to hit the idle Rockchip with another round of contact cleaning first, but this sounds like a plan.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i am thinking : let's consider giving all uy1 users an acct on the idle rk , until uy1 is replaced and moved to cold spare.
hanbot: <asciilifeform> hanbot: when was 'this' plox ? << was my whim to start znc back up then after leaving it off for a ~day following http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-14#1886701 , no shenanigans implied. i suppose my wordchoice was unfortunate, sorry for alarms. ☝︎
lobbes: BingoBoingo: if it helps, I've noticed at least 4 resets (the top 4 results are my recent resets; times are in UTC) >> http://logs.minigame.biz/search/?q=Quits%3A+lobbes
BingoBoingo: Aite, before I tuck in asciilifeform I'll gpggram you all the trivia observations from the weekend trips to the rack to digest with a rested brain.
BingoBoingo: Before I tuck in I will say 3 is the lower bound for reset events. Based on mod6's original report I suspect more.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: When you book your ticket expect more Spanish/Spanglish because I haven't had a sustained spoken conversation in English since early December.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma also sleep shortly, will letcha know if i wake up screaming with a wtf
BingoBoingo: I am inclined to get some sleep for the night. asciilifeform if you dream tonight of questions to pose to the datacenter re: their ground fault which mght be informative, please forward them.
mircea_popescu: i don't expect they'd know what to do to those.
asciilifeform: i reflashed'em for good measure.
asciilifeform: incidentally manifest actually includes 2 FG units ( pizarro-owned ) . i had to fly'em back in april , if anyone recalls, cuz of ben_vulpes's misadventure where they were pawed by orcs for whole night
asciilifeform: ( i suppose technically this is 4th expedition -- BingoBoingo orig pioneer, and then ben_vulpes . but asciilifeform's 2nd. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: acceptable for nao , but i'm inclined to make 2nd expedition sooner rather than later.
mircea_popescu: "we dunno wtf happened, i guess to a certain mind events centered on jan 13th suspicious as fuck, we have a new kernel and we redid the bios just in case, dunno what more can be possibly done" is, or atleast i guess will have to be, acceptable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do. i actually bit my elbows after 1st expedition, that i did not include the necessary gear for this in the 1st crate.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-14 16:48 asciilifeform: after we get to the bottom of UY1 issue, i'ma make sure that all iron owned by pizarro has asciilifeform-baked kernel in place.
mircea_popescu: i recall folks asking, and you saying ok, rather than "you know what... i don't even recall who made this kernel, maybe i remake it when i have time befgore oking this"
asciilifeform: i'd much rather folx did those on rk's..
asciilifeform: there's the 'what used for' q also. i'm still at a loss, i'll admit, re what is to be gained even from root on a box hosting blogs.
mircea_popescu: but yes, i run systems which had 0 unexpected reboots, and i've thrown out components / replaced / redesigned systems over unexpected reboots.
asciilifeform: i recall there was a piece where mircea_popescu threw out a raid card
mircea_popescu: depends what i use them for, yes.
asciilifeform: i'd like not to lose the orig thread, re whether box was interfered with.
asciilifeform: i thought we were discussing the outrageous howler that 'dc would warn if 1 box in a 42u has 1 chip 40c over temp'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I asked. If you have some targeted questions I will be happy to ask them.
mircea_popescu: same fucking thing is the case in ~every dc i eve rsaw, there's a line of sensors above the racks, and can tell whether box is working 30s, 40s or 70s
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i ~also~ find it peculiar your dc wouldn't have alerted you in case of thermal trip. because in general they have sensors. << There was a ground fault alarm tripped in the datacenterś fire supression system over the weekend, but the time doesn's line up with the beginning of this reset crisis.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is an academic discussion. in any case, i've had warnings re hot boxes from dcs before, it's not a wholly unheard of item. laser sensor costs ~nothing, and hvac management is 60% of what they do for a living.
BingoBoingo: I took off a light layer of particulate. When I opened the chassis I found it matched the photos from when the FG were installed.
mircea_popescu: i ~also~ find it peculiar your dc wouldn't have alerted you in case of thermal trip. because in general they have sensors.
mircea_popescu: and then, when i went to clean it, i found it dirty ; as opposed to clean.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i did. let me tell you how it behaved : box went down. upon reboot it went down again, in the following manner : every time it was rebooted, within a finite time interval (bout an hour). no exceptions.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: keep in mind this was a ben_vulpes-baked box, i never saw inside of it ( dulap-III, dulap-spare, s-mg, s-mg-spare -- i cleaned with own hands )
mircea_popescu: (i think the third reboot was actually you guise, or not ?)
asciilifeform: they aint always visibly burst, but i'm inclined to think this wasn't the caps.
BingoBoingo: I saw no burst caps
mircea_popescu: i never saw a mobo bust a cap and then boot by itself again tho. besides, he'd see a busted cap i imagine.
mircea_popescu: but i mean... so you have ten year old gb ram ?
mircea_popescu: i guess i must've mixed things.
BingoBoingo: From what I understand the ram came with the chassis
mircea_popescu: i'm confused, you bought used ram ? i seem to recall a discussion...
asciilifeform: ( why -- i do not know. but ram appears to age, possibly ion migration )
asciilifeform: i have
mircea_popescu: outside of hard drives, and capacitors on OVER FIFTEEN YEAR OLD motherbopards, i have not witnessed this wonder myself, of failing hardware.
asciilifeform: i dun currently have any notion of knowing what, precisely , failed
mircea_popescu: i confess i have nfi what makes you think commodity hardware failed in this case.
asciilifeform: but indeed i'd much like to move to a 'near-errybody on rockchips' , ~these~ can approximate the ideal of 'treat irons as toilet paper, discard on 1st sign of rot'
asciilifeform: i haven't succeeded in crashing a rockchip yet ( outside from the rotting usb ssd's affair )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can't disagree, and am inclined to move it to cold spare when we get another crate in.
trinque: ftr I don't need a month's comp for a few hours of outage, though a few hours of outage does suck.
asciilifeform: hanbot: today i set up realtime stream of system log + voltages + temperatures + fan rpm to the torture room, was expecting to find thermal problem, so far 0
asciilifeform: been up continuously since i set up sensors earlier today, and still alive, with 0 anomalous readings
BingoBoingo: hanbot: The investigation is ongoing. Other than the chassis interor being marginally cleaner than before asciilifeform instrumented the machine, answers remain elusive. Per http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/14/pizarro-isp-update-january-14-2019/#selection-13.0-17.315 I am inclined to not charge any Pizarro shared hosting customers for the month of January though I am open to hearing other suggested remedies.
lobbesbot: hanbot: Sent 1 day, 10 hours, and 22 minutes ago: <billymg> mp-wp patches have been updated: http://billymg.com/2019/01/minor-mp-wp-patch-updates/ -- the only \ No newline at end of file strings you should find in .svg refs patch are from before part of the diff (i.e. file diffed had no newline at the end)
hanbot: well, this is my 3rd iirc restart of znc in two days, slightly more interruption than the problem i started using znc on UY1 to fix posed. looks like no prognosis yet eh?
a111: Logged on 2019-01-14 00:36 feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1714-part-i/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1714 - Part I.
shinohai: I still have nfi why the bullet barf, diana_coman says it has to do with proximity things. Hopefully I'll get some time in game to see if negative effects occur.
asciilifeform: shinohai: nifty eulora piece. yer ahead of asciilifeform in that battlefield, i've yet to attempt building eulora
asciilifeform: imho if satellite 'oops it crashed and i cant tellya why', designer oughta get a 1way ticket to its orbit to go and debug..
a111: Logged on 2019-01-14 04:15 mircea_popescu: i'd like a computer where i didn't have this sort of problem.
asciilifeform: i'ma take the chance to highlight the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-14#1886752 thing -- on sane iron , there'd be no such thing as a 'oops rebooted but fuck if i tellya why' ☝︎
asciilifeform: i've mostly sworn off trying to picture the 'reasoning'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun see wai not to bug upstream, but then again i dun work at reichskanzlei
mircea_popescu: i dunno, man. if i ran a moron empire with delusions of "pen devices" etc, it'd do precisely the sort of inept rebooting.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: so far all i know is that the thing rebooted without sanction, no fewer than 3x. << It breathes ever so slightly better than it did before the opening and fan check
asciilifeform: ( why , i cannot begin to fathom )
asciilifeform: even if i turn up nuffin in next day or 2, i'ma have at least 1 moar planned reset, see whether ben_vulpes remembered to enable eccism when he plugged the thing in
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far all i know is that the thing rebooted without sanction, no fewer than 3x.
asciilifeform: i like to hash e.g. raid card biosen, etc., also
asciilifeform: i can't picture that any literate folx don't
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: indeed i do
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: after ffa is fielded, i'ma add gmp etc carmichaelisms to phuctor.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so basically they imagine they're getting a buncha eunuchs outta the deal ? << I suspect this is an element of it.
asciilifeform: i was aboutta say
mircea_popescu: i dunno, at this juncture i'm starting to suspect attemtping rational analysis is eminently wrong approach, not like it's a rational process.
asciilifeform: the chowdhrys are, as i currently understand, the vaisya/sudra-heavy wave of emigres & their nth gen, largely content with 'middling' ranks, the native usg.brahmin spawn dun want these
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i guess my unexamined impression is otherwise.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why they're so butthurt by the ~statistical~ fact. just because average black is going to be dumber than average human doesn't say any one black person's gonna be dumb or anything like that.