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jurov: and it's normal on bitbet that if anything gets over 90
%/10
% there are "just in case" bets arriving that push the odds back to middle
Namworld: In Canada, you're taxed on 50
% of your gains. Not 100
%. But you can get as much as 43
% tax on that 50
% if you're in the top income bracket. So as high as 21.5
% on gains... hmm, interesting.
smickles: considering >90
% of sales have been off of S.DICE
mjr_: mpoe might be around 10
% a year...not sure
mjr_: but pretty sure more than 10
% tiberiusiv: theres no other BTC firms that are paying 10
%+ a year...
mjr_: by your logic...with a 0
% return on investment...it must be the best deal ever
mjr_: ok...so if 33
% of the stocks traded on nyse left tomorrow
tiberiusiv: someone paying me 30
% a year in income on my capital
mjr_: their return is 30
% tiberiusiv: 30
% return in a deflationary currency like bitcoin is massive
tiberiusiv: so how is a 30
% yield of BITCOINs not high?
tiberiusiv: if you bought satoshi dice the value of your dividends is in real terms is over 300
% tiberiusiv: satoshi dice dividend has been over 300
% in real terms.
tiberiusiv: 30
% yield on a deflationary asset isnt?
mjr_: i have dollars lent out at almost 300
% tiberiusiv: 80
%+ of satoshidice players are US residents
tiberiusiv: if satoshi dice was double in price the dividend yield would be 15
% tiberiusiv: gaming is 100
% regulated in ireland. requiring licenses
tiberiusiv: because even a 10
% annual dividend in BTC is alot
tiberiusiv: mjr: i dont have to keep going, the market is indicating a 30
% dividend for a reason, if it was safe the price of satoshi would be 2-3x what it is now.
mjr_: ie. the 87
% of the company which they own
tiberiusiv: hence why it has a 30
% dividend yield.
tiberiusiv: satoshi dice has a 30
% dividend yield for a reason
mjr_: satoshi dice "we will pay 100
% of profit as dividends"
tiberiusiv: collecting at least 2
% of that for themselves
tiberiusiv: how do they have 0 profit when hes collecting 2-3
% off of $150k a day?
Bowjob: 10
% a year in dividends is really good for a stock.. plus, the price appreciation
Namworld: At 10
% yearly, VTX would be worth 0.72 BTC per share
Namworld: and has at least 7000 BTC traded weekly. Let's say an average of 2
% in fees taken and that's 140 BTC, divided by 100k shares for 0.0014 weekly per share. x52 weeks = 0.0728 BTC yearly
Namworld: and cavirtex charges 0.5-3
% depending on volume.
Namworld: Actually, assets on Havelock seem to hover around or under 10
% per year
ThickAsThieves: i just look to see if i think i might have a chance at 10
% or so
ThickAsThieves: needs to increase at least, what, 25
% each difficulty ti make X.IDIFF.JUn profitable?
ThickAsThieves: i doubt even 75
% of the assets are missing spelling/grammar errors in the prosp
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves> i'm playing a drinking game, every time tiberius quotes a
% with authority <<< lol
Namworld: I actually get 100
% of my income in BTC
tiberiusiv: someone that bought BTC on friday with their entire paycheck, is now down 10
%+
tiberiusiv: they would only have done well if they saved 100
% tiberiusiv: vs being down 5
% off the bat just in exchange.
tiberiusiv: of which nobody has other then a tiny
% tiberiusiv: if you spent your bitcoins 3months ago on a new television, you just paid 300
% more for it then paying with fiat
jurov: no, 90
%. if i have btcs on blockchain.info, who controls them?
tiberiusiv: and 1
% will end up with 90
% of the coins
jurov: um, and what are we arguing about? i agree that 1
% btc users control over 90
% of everything
ThickAsThieves: i'm playing a drinking game, every time tiberius quotes a
% with authority
tiberiusiv: as i said, we are at 0.001
% of total users?
Namworld: There's less than 25
% of what's available that's actually good/interesting at all tho.
tiberiusiv: are you aware 95
% of oil contracts are speculators?
tiberiusiv: you realize its maybe 10
% who are cashing in and out?
tiberiusiv: 90
% of exchange volume is speculation, only 10
% is for someone who actually needs BTC
tiberiusiv: 100k which is 1
% of bitcoins in circulation would collapse the price temporarily into the 30's
tiberiusiv: its mathematically impossible for even 5
% of total bitcoiners to all cashout
tiberiusiv: with the remaining 20
% being fought over by the 99
% percenters
tiberiusiv: in the end i would say 1-2
% of bitcoiners will control 80
%+ of BTC
tiberiusiv: in bitcoin at the moment, about 20
% of the users control 80
% of the coins
tiberiusiv: so it will be a natural tendancy even in bitcoin for 1
% to have all the wealth
tiberiusiv: look at the bitcoin crowd for example, less then 1
% of thetotal "community" contributes anything
tiberiusiv: 1
% of traders are profitable in the long term
tiberiusiv: yes and theres a reason 99
% of them lose
chmod755: like even big services like FB and Google are not 100
% secure
tiberiusiv: mjr mtgox doesnt make up a big
% of the blockchain transactions
tiberiusiv: considering gox is 80
% of participants
chmod755: cyprus is 0.1
% of the eurozone
tiberiusiv: bitinstant has like a 25
% chance your transfer fails
TradeFortress: Net Estimated ROI/Year @ .01 BTC/share 2,847.47208
%/Year*
Namworld: They get to keep 99.9
% of everything
Namworld: 1 share of AMC on BitFunder represents 1/100,000,000th of 100
% of the monthly profits after all expenses.
Bowjob: but the 3
% is killing me
Namworld: So 0.1095 BTC per year or 25
% per year
Namworld: Divided by 100 000 shares (10k IPOed for 10
%), that's 0.0003 BTC per day
Namworld: Assuming an average of 2
% and daily trading of 1500 BTC
Namworld: Actually, fees on cavirtex are 3
% to .5
% depending on volume...