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jurov: nm i was looking on another mpsic
jurov: mike_c: no responsibility.. but looking on it, i prolly should actually buy some to prop it up
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: i'd pay fiddy bucks for one, and that's generous. << Nobel prize is gold so you can sell it at one of those cash for gold store fronts in the ghetto
mike_c: or am i confused and you don't offer liquidity for sellers?
jurov: mike_c it's actually 1% and i'm outside that
ben_vulpes: dang did you guys really crap out over 1000 lines while i was sleeping?
xanthyos: at a time i thought all nickserv-idented nicks were cloaked
jurov: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/03/technology/once-celebrated-in-russia-programmer-pavel-durov-chooses-exile.html?ref=technology&_r=1 << i'd like to see talk between him and asciilifeform :)
xanthyos: if i connected from my home ip i'd cloak. i don't notice a lag at all from the ssh session
nubbins`: maybe i was being ddosed yesterday when my netflix stream quality was slightly reduced
xanthyos: it's a shell so i have no idea if it's being ddosed
nubbins`: i kid
jurov: 1.5*e(i*pi) + e(1.5*i*pi) = ?
jurov: okay, now i have this off my mind
davout: yea i hear you
jurov: well.. it's up to mircea. i doubt he ever does anything about this stateless, eventually-consistent wankfest of his.
davout: yes, continuous trading seems so much simpler, not sure if there's a blocker i'm missing tho
jurov: i wrote clearly how i intend to solve it. x.eur would just not trade in interval when such behavior is expected.
jurov: you see - i'm reeling about the first one
xanthyos: davout: i'm not supposed to talk about that anymore. started to annoy ppl
davout: it's not that i dislike it, it's just that i point out that it creates a hard deadline for everyone
jurov: if it changes to other fixed time, i'm okay with it
xanthyos: coinbase makes it too easy! i thought they'd at least slow me down with a 2 factor phone auth
nubbins`: jurov iirc (and i could be wrong), qntra pays the way dickens' publisher paid
jurov: oh and i just came around davout's proposal, gonna make some noise around it
adlai: would've been nicer with &symbol= and push notifications and a unicorn pony but i'll settle for this :)
mike_c: jurov, you still market making mpif? it seems the bids are below bounds (which I thought was +- 5%).
adlai: the impression I get from lurking around here is that there aren't concrete plans for another profit center, but if one arose, it would be welcomed
artifexd: And there hasn't been much talk of MPIF lately. I'm in an information vacuum, so to speak.
artifexd: I'm just trying to make a decision to sell what I have, buy more, or wait some more.
artifexd: If I had any to offer, yes. Alas, no.
assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 19:56:00; mircea_popescu: kuzetsa ah i think you gotta pay kako for access to that ?
nubbins`: ah yes, ty, i may have it covered
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2014 17:02:37; mircea_popescu: something like that. so one night while in here, i see movement in the corner of my eye
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2014#870297 < this seems intuitive to me, but I guess that backs up my intuition ☝︎
asciilifeform: anyway - who wants to turn it into a science, i just threw in a freebie - physically testable hypothesis.
mircea_popescu: i call it being an asshole.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, i don't call this a science.
mircea_popescu: as i said, all sorts of heuristics can be useful. i tend to not pursue relations with the intellectually slow, which i often judge in seconds on simple cues such as eye movement.
mircea_popescu: problem is i can build a machine with zero crosstalk and i won't have built an ai.
mircea_popescu: but i don't see anything in it past that.
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2014 03:24:29; asciilifeform: Adlai: if i recall, hypothesis involves impedance matching - same reason folks with damaged myelin sheaths lose theirs.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i think it's pseudoscience, the whole lot of it.
mircea_popescu: or i should say
mircea_popescu: but honestly while there are intelligent people trying, i think it's a snipe hunt.
mircea_popescu: i don't see it's controversial at all.
mircea_popescu: anything useful ? other than socially i mezn
mircea_popescu: i can see the newspaper titles
asciilifeform: naturally the very concept of sitting down and solving a picture puzzle is learnable. this was clear to me. but i wanted a kind of 'carnot engine limit' of unlearnability.
mircea_popescu: lmao this is the most idiotic thing i ever heard
asciilifeform: this was a fool's errand, but in the process, i ended up lifting the lid on an entire 'secret' field of psychometry
asciilifeform: this is a subject that i have a little personal connection with. at one point, i spent almost two years of spare time working on what turned out to be 'fried ice' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i can see that
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is the deal breaker for me. i actually run the monitors at about 50% gamma. << i did get it down to 30% or so. would've liked even less - while retaining contrast. simply to avoid... baking.
mircea_popescu: 106 somethingawful.com kinda interesting this, i wonder how entirely baseless it actually is.
adlai sees, right now, http://i.imgur.com/UyrDh8M.png
mircea_popescu: adlai: uhoh, site affinity for reddit.com is 51.2x! << i see slashdot.org 151.7x wired.com 83.3x zerohedge.com 81.3x dailydot.com 52.7x boingboing.net 51.7x
badon: Yes, I'm doing that now.
badon: That's why I wasn't getting anything.
badon: Ah, there we go. I had gribble on ignore.
nubbins`: i saw some cool byzantine shit in germany
badon: I compared what Europe was producing in the 11th century with what China was producing, and it's pathetic. You have to wonder if Europeans collectively decided to be retarded for a thousand years.
badon: I was wrong. The "museum" is actually the Emperor's palace, also known as "the forbidden city".
badon: I thought it was a museum gift shop thing.
badon: nubbins`: The silver version I sold for $1200. A few months later the specimen was back on the market, and it sold for $4'000!
badon: I love that stuff.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hardphork! << i never applied that, no sympthoms. so no, not a fork at all.
nubbins`: there was this one town i visited, it's all anyone did
nubbins`: i saw some sick enamelling when i was in korea too
mircea_popescu: i imagine the time to stock up on chinese memorabilia was right before the great leap forward.
nubbins`: this is why i collect casascius coins ;D
nubbins`: i've been trying to find these coins forever, to no avail: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/silver-crystal-zodiac-collection-2013-prod1840076#.VH28eGTF8Yc
badon: The first really nice enamel coins in modern China were in 2008, if I remember correctly.
badon: nubbins`: China mastered enamel in ancient times - and I mean truly MASTERED it. I saw some enamel work that I mistook for being modern, but it was ancient.
nubbins`: badon like i said, maybe a couple coins a year.
badon: I collected them for a while.
mircea_popescu: Naphex yes, but intrinsic to what. see, when i say "kim kardashian has intrinsic value" i mean specifically, the hole(s) in her ass.
mircea_popescu: i can't believe half the fucking log is keyboards. you people are nuts you know that ?
Naphex: what i'm trying to ask
mircea_popescu: i can't ?
mircea_popescu: i won't buy something high tech today that has no use, because guess what ? time flows against it.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` imo all this "tech" stuff is a waste of time. i might buy a computer today because i want to use it.
nubbins`: badon, maybe so. i've got a handful of x-for-x coins, mostly just the nice ones
mircea_popescu: badon im not into metals anyway, but i'd definitely buy metal rather than you know, fashion, hype, whatever. "the sizzle"
nubbins`: but i'd rather my $50 coin have a half-ounce of silver than not
nubbins`: badon i do know that chinese silver pandas are the cream
badon: mircea_popescu: It's difficult to predict which coins will be valuable, but I'm literally writing the book on the subject.
mircea_popescu: i still don't see why some coins nobody gives a shit about would be intrinsically valuable.
badon: nubbins`: That's one reason why I like the Chinese coins so much. They're still producing rare coins each year, and Chinese collectors are mostly unaware of them. Canada is not populous enough to make a coin with a mintage of 25'000 extraordinarily valuable, but China is populous enough to make a coin with a mintage of 100 extraordinarily valuable. Make sense?
mircea_popescu: i don't pay for krugerands, and those at least are historically relevant.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't pay above the metal for any of them either.
nubbins`: i'm on the fence
badon: I think physical bitcoins ought to be collectible like any other coin. They're historically important, despite not being "official" in any way.
nubbins`: i single-handedly raised the market price for one specimen from 1.5btc to 15btc
nubbins`: badon, i've already made some progress on that front
nubbins`: badon i can't promise anything (very busy month) but if it's there, i'm more likely to poke at it
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i have more than once kicked a violent drunk out of a bar by suggesting that he leave 8)
badon: nubbins`: If you want, I can create the project for you in the forum, and we can do some experimenting to get it rolling.
nubbins`: i'm the closest you'll find to an expert around here
badon: I know next to nothing about physical Bitcoins, and honestly, I don't have the time to become an expert in them.