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mircea_popescu: ascii_field has an excellent point : this is a fine time to make new keys / reorganize the keyplan, make a master key which then signs other keys as you need etc.
ascii_field: incidentally, if someone wants to generate a fatter key, now would probably be a good time
ascii_field: possibly we do a 'key party' this time ?
mircea_popescu: davout notrly, because i may have to verify people later, in person, whereas you won't have to verify payments later in a different venue.
mircea_popescu: davout it's a running joke with jurov and others that watch the mpex statements :)
mircea_popescu: btw - only a few days left, hurry up in case the btc collapses.
thestringpuller: a mircea_popescu appears
cazalla: kakobrekla: ascii_field not missing, 'betmoose' is right there, in the first comment. <<< might be the funniest thing i've read for a while
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> in other news, apparently apple released a portable machine that not only has slower cpu clock than the typical such box 5 yrs. ago - but cannot charge and use an external peripheral at the same time! << they want you to buy a thing to make more holes
BingoBoingo: http://cl.jroo.me/z3/I/a/d/e/a.baa-Love-between-dog-and-tiger.jpg
PeterL: well, once you get a good system, then make it change slowly
kakobrekla: so thats a no
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ascii_field: the only thing statal (vs tribal) law ever was, is a '3 ring binder' affair to simplify peasant-herding
ascii_field: 'rule of law' is fundamentally a scam
ascii_field: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/us/secede-republic-claims-texas-never-joined-us.html << idiots who still imagine that a legalistic pill against usg exists. as described in mircea_popescu's 'sovereign citizens' article.
adlai: thestringpuller: you're missing the best part of the talk: "A tenth of a Bitcoin for anyone who takes the livestream and puts a pope hat on me during the stream. That would be awesome." http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/mit-bitcoin-expo-2015/keynote-gavin-andresen/
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
thestringpuller: "I’m actually, right now, working on just getting consensus among the five, what I call, core developers — the five developers who have push access to the git code. I think I’m getting close to convincing them that we have a plan that will work. I’m probably going to have to write some more code . . . I think we have a year to eighteen months. I would love the next release of bitcoin — the next major release, which wi ☟︎
ascii_field: in other news, apparently apple released a portable machine that not only has slower cpu clock than the typical such box 5 yrs. ago - but cannot charge and use an external peripheral at the same time!
ascii_field throws up a little just writing this
ascii_field: 'subspace' >> 'Unfortunately, downloading all messages scales very poorly. In Subspace, we use a filtering technique that allows us to mix our messages with a user-defined subset of the total message space, reducing your bandwidth consumption while preserving your privacy.' >> shitgnomism
PeterL: asciilifeform:but going back to mathematical notation for a spell - let's write, e.g., a gnarly triple integral, in plain humanlang. << When writing such an integral, I use words in my head as I put down the symbols (eg. integral from 0 to 2pi integral from 0 to 1 integral from 4r^2 to 4 of xdxrdrd(theta) )
asciilifeform: incidentally, my explanation at 14:39:46 is a bit broken but i'll leave it as exercise for the reader.
asciilifeform wrote a flame many years ago and the 'butthurt' over it never seems to abate
asciilifeform: '...we should start with cleaner hardware, then write a cleaner replacement for the JVM (same cross-platform capabilities!?, same performance optimisations!?), as well as all its libraries... we'd be busy at least for another decade and required backing from several large companies.'
assbot: My Way into Clojure: Building a Card Game with Om - Part 1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mq5gEq )
asciilifeform: http://www.railslove.com/stories/my-way-into-clojure-building-a-card-game-with-om-part-1#Other_Misgivings << mega-l0l (from server logs) ☟︎
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asciilifeform: somebody even sells a clockless 'arm'.
asciilifeform: but one can put together a few mil. of these, without any apparent daemonic possession of the machine, is what we experimentally have so far.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if there;s a limit of how many you can plop together before you end up in some novel hell
asciilifeform: ^ iirc we did it a bit
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mircea_popescu: but anyway, this IS a pretty beautiful thing huh ?
mircea_popescu: no, simply did not give a shit.
mircea_popescu: and this is why i became a theoretical physicist
mircea_popescu: i'll note you'd have had a much more reliable response had you described rather than shown :)!!!
asciilifeform: because an ordinary logic gate can enter a 'metastable' wedge-state if it is given a 'pathological' input transition (i.e. you try to use the output before the inputs are stable)
asciilifeform: know the saying 'picture is worth 1000 words' ? it isn't a joke
asciilifeform: adlai: a good chunk of the total world of engineering fits in this category
adlai: antecedent failure... for a moment, parsed that as [firstlook] cite thompson... but i guess they're just journalists
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nubbins`: "As well as targeting the iPhone and iPad directly, the CIA also claims to have developed a poisoned version of Xcode, the software development tool used by app developers to create the apps sold through Apple's hugely successful App Store. It is unclear how the CIA managed to get developers to use the poisoned version of Xcode, but it would have allowed the CIA install backdoors into any apps created using their version."
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asciilifeform: jurov: a von neumann limitation.
asciilifeform: removing bricks from on top another brick, will not make the latter a faster runner...
asciilifeform: like strapping weights to a runner
asciilifeform: 'What’s the real difference between having a type signature in your short-term memory or prominently displayed in your second monitor? What’s the real difference between writing a comment in your mind or touch-typing it as fast as you create it? Just some speed. Just some time. And the more visible that type signature is, the faster you can type out that comment, the larger your ‘memory’ gets. And the larger your memor
mircea_popescu: and it doesn't start with pharma, freud was closer to a fraud than anything. and all the way back.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: likely thinking of a different 'store'
adlai: 7 is some average (mode?) though, rather than a neurological law.
asciilifeform: which was a mega-l0l
adlai sees a surprising parallel between processing a long string of characters and the von neumann approach to executing a linear sequence instructions referring an array of memory...
mircea_popescu: natural language "ambiguity" is a machine problem, not a human problem.
asciilifeform: human languages as a class aren't even automatically unambiguous structurewise, and to hammer them into this shape results in the kind of verbiage that led people to invent 'squigglies' in the first place.
asciilifeform: or simply to the fact that straight line of alphabet yes, can unambiguously describe everything. but it takes titanic space for a large class of concepts
asciilifeform: whatddoihavetodo, scan a schoolbook! lol
asciilifeform: there is a reason why newton and leibniz both came up with new symbols for this example
mircea_popescu: a symbol is a symbol.
mircea_popescu: well that's your point, but notrly what was discussed. a simple mapping from that to "integral" and problem solved.
asciilifeform: what a bitch it'd be
asciilifeform: but going back to mathematical notation for a spell - let's write, e.g., a gnarly triple integral, in plain humanlang.
asciilifeform: to explain this in usable detail would take a while
asciilifeform: adlai: if you're curious, i quit the emulator when i realized that even the text output absolutely trivial on a dataflow machine cannot be rendered in real time on a von neumann box (simply attach dependency graph to each rectangle of video buffer ram)
asciilifeform: the basic idea was known to the ancients as 'spoonfull of shit in a barrel of honey'
adlai: eh, the information in a video can be reliably conveyed through a transcript
asciilifeform: yet another example of an item for which you absolutely need a moving picture
asciilifeform: because thing wasn't just some idiot talking, but a film of the machine in use
asciilifeform: adlai: it used to be a link to my site
asciilifeform: now all of this probably plays into mircea_popescu's thesis, because it turns out that the main use of graphical bitmaps in a 'symbolics' box or in my emacs is to better shovel text around
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no dice. spent as little time as did with box because a good chunk of it is replicated in my modern 'emacs' - with which i've made just about everything in my adult life
asciilifeform: but pray tell what were the 'timewasters' on a 'symbolics' box ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's a simple restriction on volume.
mircea_popescu: it forces people to think, and it simplifies the task of rooting out thoise who haven't. exactly the opposite service of a powerpoint presentation.
mircea_popescu: let's move it in a different field. you acquainted with the happenstance that iconoclastic civilisations prospered intellectually whereas iconocladic civilisations failed ?
mircea_popescu: and i think the sort of idiots running around pretending "everything;'s something!11" are doing deaf people a major disfavor.
mircea_popescu: eh, while i can appreciate the theoretical beauty of this "fuck you, i'm a dragon" approach, i do not credit it any. in fact, i think it only exists because the context is of the "fuck you, dragons" nature.
mircea_popescu: signs are a reimplementation of speech.
mircea_popescu: (In linguistics, an adjunct is an optional, or structurally dispensable, part of a sentence, clause, or phrase that, if removed or discarded, will not otherwise affect the remainder of the sentence.)
mircea_popescu: an' i'm tellin' you, "visual" is not a complete language.
jurov: but i consider things like drakon editor a feeble attempt led by gut feeling of russina mathematicians
mircea_popescu: you can't make a cad based kernel.
mircea_popescu: only because there's a textual context to generously support it.
mircea_popescu: a curve does not meaningfully stand for a set of curves like a word stands for a set of words.
mircea_popescu: the day someone makes derp++ and starts iterating splines in a cube conditional, we can revisit this.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2015 00:04:10; mircea_popescu: i can accept that SOME PEOPLE actually need their monitor to graphics. so make a gamestation. otherwise, we're fucking literate, we're not women, nothing beats text. ever.
mircea_popescu: davout ayup, it's a thing.
cazalla: i enjoyed it but it's not exactly up there amongst my top fav cult films, that spot is claimed by a chinese ghost story and the young and dangerous series
adlai: hmmaybe? i just watched whatever the other sergeant said was a movie we had to watch
adlai: cazalla: battle royale << i'm sorry but that was a terrible movie, basically Running Man without arnie = worthless
cazalla: in the June timeframe — to have a scheduled hardfork to increase the block size in it. I probably won’t get there. It’ll probably be in the release after that, but we’ll see.
cazalla: I’m actually, right now, working on just getting consensus among the five, what I call, core developers — the five developers who have push access to the git code. I think I’m getting close to convincing them that we have a plan that will work. I’m probably going to have to write some more code . . . I think we have a year to eighteen months. I would love the next release of bitcoin — the next major release, which will be sometime
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davout: ;;later tell mircea_popescu hory shet, i was just thinking about this, how every single bitcoin noob and nigger displays this particular feature, he has "found a problem", and "wants to fix it"
ben_vulpes: it's a trillion dollar project if you swallow the whole spitoon of what constitutes modern computing.
mircea_popescu: a pretty good place to deploy them, too.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2015 00:04:10; mircea_popescu: i can accept that SOME PEOPLE actually need their monitor to graphics. so make a gamestation. otherwise, we're fucking literate, we're not women, nothing beats text. ever.