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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't mean in the past. i mean for the future. they're trying to make a "special file".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: read openssl. it's a spittoon.
Adlai has babbled about such concepts to vc-types while orbiting those circles (at a safe distance), there's always the faint glimmer of hope that a good meme takes root
asciilifeform: 'commoditize' is a very, very odd thing for anyone to wish to do to mining.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2015#1050103 << don't be ridiculous. for one thing, commodizing asic mining is a larger task than commodizing cpu arch. for the other, they're a fucking sv corp, they're not going to DO ANYTHING. just sit around and talk about shit. preferably at "conferences", or else "liveblog" it. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: Adlai: it is quite a feat to bring oneself to program in elisp after working with proper common lisp. don't know how you manage it. (iron will?)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2015#1050086 << well, fwiw it's a worthy thing to do. ☝︎
asciilifeform: when -from- 'respectable' folks like cisco - yes, by hand, stable of monkeys (its exact location was in #b-a not long ago)
asciilifeform: if real-time satellite is costly and unreliable, a 'poor man's' version will contain two rsa keys. one will sign every frame and globe coordinate tuple -until package is opened-, the other - after
asciilifeform: a precious and carefully-sewn item
mircea_popescu: Aquent i didn't make a statement about that, either.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2015#1050043 << this is technically possible and not a negligible avenue of attack. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: we should prolly hold a call vote see how mit is regarded, i thought it unanimously despised.
mircea_popescu: i didn't make a statement on that.
asciilifeform: to the extent something takes place on a known muppet theatre stage, it is not even all that important to go into the supposed 'motivations' of the muppets, when you can plainly see the arms growing out of their arses
mircea_popescu: it's a tardstalk auction, basically.
mircea_popescu: and this is why "apparently" is not more appropriate. the locus of power is b-a, not usg. when we say something here, fact or no fact, it becomes "apparently", like it or not like it.
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 08:58:59; fluffypony: as a reporter you don't want to claim something as fact when it isn't, but the USMS holding 3 auctions is accepted enough that it doesn't have to be "alleged" :-P
mircea_popescu: "mp is bad mmkay!11" "you know the only reason you eat is his tolerant magnanimity" "doesn't make a diference".
Adlai: it's the ponytail. flew through in september with a hobo mop, no comment. look like a dealer or hacker? step aside please.
Adlai had to pick up his reserve summons - A PIECE OF PAPER - at the post office
asciilifeform: those get a door sticker, yes, and appropriate text in the www tracking gizmo
asciilifeform: cazalla: this wasn't a 'missed delivery' thing
chetty: hmm isnt there a coffee shop around there you can check for it?
cazalla: they don't even knock on your door here, they just stick a "we missed you" notice in the letter box and force you to pick it up from the local post office yourself.. god forbid the postman knock at your door and wait for you to answer
asciilifeform: no idea if anyone gives a fuck, but it is quite reminiscent of mircea_popescu's experience when i happened to mail him something last year.
danielpbarron: sounds like the kind of story you tell kids around a camp fire while pointing a flashlight at your face
asciilifeform: thing is, colonizing power is not necessarily a civilizing one. how'd ya like ru colonial period in ro? ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Well... truth is a lot more complicated than that - in many places, in most places really national sovereignity is implemented as "being incredibly stupid in our own special way", which is of course neither "their own" in any sense nor to any degree special. This has to be broken down...' << aha colonization.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Why would a property in a peso land be worth dollars ? Oh, because the peso is shit, they readily explain to you. Well, if the peso is shit, why do you imagine your real estate is worth anything at all ? ' << because if it were 10 usd, a beggar from calcutta would buy it and live in it; if it were 10K usd, i'd buy it; if it were 100K usd, american speculator corps. would buy it. so it has to be 150K. ☟︎
mod6: had 2 attachments, a .patch file and a .sig file
mod6: jurov: can you see if a message got snarffed from the btc-dev list, i sent one in with the subject "Static Makefile Patch v0.0.2"
PeterL: you know what is annoying? online articles which are split into pages. It is a webpage, I should be able to keep scrolling down, instead of increasing the "click numbers" for advertising!
PeterL: A while ago I got the entire discworld series as ebooks for like 0.005 btc, back when a btc was about 10 bucks
danielpbarron: i remember many years ago not liking reddit based soley on this one really annoying kid being way too enthusiastic about it. He went on and on about how some anime trailor was "totally a troll" as he hammered away on his keyboard.
fluffypony: "If over 10% of your submissions and conversation are your own site/content/affiliate links, you're almost certainly a spammer."
fluffypony: danielpbarron: yes, there's a 10% rule
danielpbarron: (unless you balance it out with 9x non-promotional material) << there is a ratio specified in the rules?? reddit is like USG training camp
danielpbarron: on a related note, I learned how to get my print screen key working on gentoo for this
assbot: 199 results for 'height=' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=height%3D
gabriel_laddel: And I'm off for nicotine and a walk. Toodles.
assbot: 35 results for 'screenshots' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=screenshots
Adlai: this is a workable approach, it just has higher capex demands (as opposed to 'all at once')
gabriel_laddel: right now I'm writing up a thing so that anyone can finish it off, in case I run into alphabet soup or w/e
gabriel_laddel: trinque: it seems to me that arguing with e.g., ascii as to if you can make linux less terrible is by and large useless sans the loot (useful technical tidbits) he drops occasionally. If you'd like to work on such a thing I can set you on the only sane path that I'm aware of, with justification as to why you'd do this instead of else.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 00:35:29; gabriel_laddel: Eh, perhaps I'm strange, but these things don't tickle me in the right places. Mountains of coke? Fun, surely, but it gets boring after a while...
assbot: Trust relationship from user gabriel_laddel to user trinque: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/gabriel_laddel/trinque | http://w.b-a.link/user/trinque
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: "what is the lisp concept and how is hickey crapping on it?" << the lisp concept is: "a crystalline pyramid of comprehensible mutually-interlocking concepts", see Thumbs Down for Clojure http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42 The parens (i.e., syntactical correspondence with ast) so far as I can tell are inescapable, but incidental. They are simply the most obvious product of the philosophy "sophistication blosso
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 04:44:18; *: asciilifeform still suspects that: 168001 was a stealthfork
Adlai: fwiw, sending a relay node your transactions is no guarantee that a miner will see them
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2015#1049856 << another reason why 0.5.3 needs getblock functionality. i can't trust anything out there, and the best way to handle bitcoins safely is to be able to canvass a mess of bitcoinds and make some decisions about how to squirt txns into the network ☝︎
Adlai: if you're going that far, a better approach would be inserting something that reports wallet.dat+password to a remote server, which waits until there's something worth stealing. one day, "all the bitcoins are gone"
ben_vulpes: surely that's a paranoid jump too far.
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 03:39:21; mod6: i don't even own or use a M$ machine, so it has to be the paste sites.
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 03:17:11; decimation: you need to add --lock-never to make it work, because I am using a shitty vm-mounted filesystem that doesn't support hardlinks
Adlai: that's kinda like saying #b-a is feeder college for altcoin creators
fluffypony: "apparently" would be a more appropriate term
fluffypony: as a reporter you don't want to claim something as fact when it isn't, but the USMS holding 3 auctions is accepted enough that it doesn't have to be "alleged" :-P ☟︎
mod6: night #b-a!
Adlai: and artillery/air support, with a few guidance chips
mircea_popescu: everything else is a liability.
mircea_popescu: it comes to us from a time of emplaced machine guns and stuff
Adlai: on the contrary, there's a lot less picking off enemies hundreds of meters away, and a lot more 'clearing rooms'
mircea_popescu agrees that in practical terms, the useful full auto is a shrinking space.
Adlai: you can drain a 30 round magazine in ~10 seconds and get most of your shots on target, and all of them in the right direction; or drain it in ~3 seconds, overheat your barrel, and kill half your friends
Adlai: a bit of training and you can give MUCH better cover with *aimed* selective fire
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 05:19:15; Adlai: since lds has refused to comment, wouldn't a better title be "Winner Of 27K Bitcoins Allegedly Purchased At USMS Auction Alleged" ?
mircea_popescu: trilema's been getting a shitton of traffic past week, maybe you got it on a blink.
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 04:39:03; asciilifeform: if anyone has any reason why this is a bad idea, please suggest it
mircea_popescu: decimation: the paragraphs starts with "There are several reasons why calling the OpenSSL configuration routines is advisable." and then fails to name a single reason << the actual reasons are not the point, the statement that "there are reasons" is the point. fashion, no substance. you wanna be with the in crowd, don't you ? be hip, upgrade. there are reasons.
Adlai: since lds has refused to comment, wouldn't a better title be "Winner Of 27K Bitcoins Allegedly Purchased At USMS Auction Alleged" ? ☟︎
mod6: or at least once we have a "freeze"
mod6: decimation: i think, in interest of time.. perhaps (with your help/testing) we'll post a patch for the makefile & the auto.sh post release.
mod6: still have a moutain of work ahead, but we're on a good track.
decimation: it must be a redhat-ism
asciilifeform still suspects that: 168001 was a stealthfork ☟︎
mod6: ok, sweet, i'll give that a try now.
mod6: no, not yet. i've been focused on just getting a release out.
asciilifeform: if anyone has any reason why this is a bad idea, please suggest it ☟︎
asciilifeform: i suggest fixing by using a pre-heartbleed openssl
mod6: here's a full shot: http://dpaste.com/06NAYCD
mod6: which works, because those are just warnings. it does output a bitcoind in the bitcoin/src dir
asciilifeform: worth a try
decimation: is there a 'configure' arg you can pass to get rid of the -ldl stupidity
assbot: 16 results for 'spittoon' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=spittoon
asciilifeform: it's a spittoon
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu wants a provably-correct replacement. can't disagree, but i personally probably won't get around to it until after the war.
decimation: and then fails to name a single reason
decimation: imma gonna load me critical pathways from a random .txt
decimation: who would ever think that is a good idea?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, anyone else who gives a damn ^^^^
decimation: /build/ourlibs/lib/libcrypto.a(dso_dlfcn.o): In function `dlfcn_globallookup': dso_dlfcn.c:(.text+0x31): undefined reference to `dlopen'
mod6: i'll know in a minute.
decimation: apparently centos doesn't come with a static libdl or libm
decimation: nano redhat calls static pthread pthread_nonshared.a
mod6: i haven't compiled on a 32bit system yet so this is a great test.
mod6: thanks, that's good. i'll have you do a `cd bitcoin/src ; readelf --dynamic bitcoind` when its complete.
mod6: i don't even own or use a M$ machine, so it has to be the paste sites. ☟︎
mod6: yeah, pastebin sticks on CRLF's... like a derp
mod6: one sec, i'll get you a new one. pastebin fucked us.