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brendafdez: forgive the laziness to look it up, but the wot ratings entered with assbot end up showing on bitcoin-otc the same as they did back when one registered them with gribble, right? They get 'synced' after a while?
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ben_vulpes: ;;later tell jurov http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000034.html << why not a patch file for this? just to make me diff it myself? ☟︎
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mircea_popescu: lol. imbecile "Foundation", a problem for every netbsd clone since day one.
mircea_popescu: "As one of the 4 originators of NetBSD, I am in a fairly unique position."
assbot: The advance warning for this OpenSSL bug can only mean one thing. There's going to be a dope logo for this bug on Thursday.
BingoBoingo: http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2006/08/30/0016.html << lol "Speaking of which, there must be negative feedback to discourage people from breaking stuff. This has been a continual problem with certain "developers" for more than a decade."
danielpbarron: "She was pretty drunk so this speech was littered with lovely curse words and slurring." << did this interview take place in b-a or something?
mircea_popescu: anyone who has this problem is an idiot of the same breath as the guy with a bitchy wife.
asciilifeform: imes they don't even bother trying to compile it, much less test it. I wish I was making this up; I wish more that I had made these people go away a long time ago.'
asciilifeform: iirc it was short & simple, something like 'yeah i'm an anarchist lawyer. you don't have to like disease to be a doctor, either'
mircea_popescu: no excuses, no slack cut for any reason. you keep a blog or fuck you.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, but still, as a point of procedure, muppet should be trained to back himself up. "here's what i say it was then, and here's where i published it then"
mircea_popescu: <decimation> it's ironic that the guy doesn't want to have the 'virus clause' interfere with BSD distribution yet was apparently willing to let some random company take over the project << actually... it's all in the bias. irrespective of what the words may say, these were govenrment men. of course they saw no problem giving their thing to governmenty-something. their only actual problem would have been "terrorists", a
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'Even today, blablabladerp.' << wat? << i'll tell you what. "mommy, i got a 7 in algebra, but you should have seen all the other kids at retard school, they got 3 and 4!"
asciilifeform: critics of rms are always very quick to remember the snot-eating or fits of frothing madness, or whateverthephuck but rarely address the actual arguments in anything like a direct and intelligent way
asciilifeform: rties to contribute back most of their changes--and so what we really got in both cases was a long list of derived but very different, and often incompatible, systems.'
asciilifeform: 'Most of us had a very strong distaste for the so-called "virus" clause in the GPL, and this is the primary reason we did not adopt it. There was also some thinking that CSRG (Berkeley) and the X Consortium had been successful with leaner, looser licenses, so why bother. In retrospect I think this was naive; if you look at the history, you'll see that neither CSRG nor the X Consortium were really successful in getting third pa
decimation: "In addition, Wasabi actually held up a NetBSD release for more than a week, while failing to tell even the developer community why. (The main release engineer happened to be a Wasabi employee, so this was easy.) After I personally pushed the release out without them, it was finally revealed that this was because there was a secret arrangement, which only Wasabi employees and Wasabi board members knew about, to do a combined NetBSD
danielpbarron: Since it came up in the /. thread, though, I would like to make one correction. It's widely claimed that I'm "the one" who ejected Theo from the NetBSD community. That is false. At that time in NetBSD's history, Chris G. Demetriou was playing the role of alpha male, and I wasn't even given a choice. I was certain it was going to bite us in the ass. I think the question for historians is not whether it did bite us in the ass,
assbot: Confessions of a Recovering NetBSD Zealot - O'Reilly Media ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtcVzv )
danielpbarron: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2006/09/14/netbsd_future.html << more history about the BSDs
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '"Give it here." then in the phone "It's Francine A. Hayek. H-A-Y-E-K." and then after a pregnant pause, "No, just a name coincidence."' << m3g4l0l!!
decimation: also I would note that this happened at a time when the intellectual fashion was to scorn any project designed to civilize the 'other'
decimation: actually the elites were racist as fuck, and were quite willing to use the underclass as a weapon against the kulaks while they built imaginary 'barriers' around their homes
mircea_popescu: why wasn't the buffallo a "public company" in 1830 ?
mircea_popescu: when you get a bunch of idiots who wish agency without agency, looting is both necessary and ideal.
decimation: the rhetoric in the us tends toward "a rising tide lifts all boats" but the more apparent reality is to squash the up-and-coming - to prevent competition from above and to 'enhance equality' from below
asciilifeform: the kind that is a couplea-zeroes apart
asciilifeform: except that mr y is a much more talented whore than yours truly
mircea_popescu: and out and out nudity is more of a terrorism&money laundering trope than anything
decimation: re: "intelle;ctual property" < I spoke with a patent examiner once, she said that she often was 'paid a visit' by pharma/medical people who were under the mistaken impression that their devices were still under patent
mircea_popescu: you're basically saying he's having a lot of sex ?
mircea_popescu: what's a rotating harem ?
asciilifeform: so yes, i l0l, but sc4mz0r sp4mz like a pr0
asciilifeform: whatever it was a cry for, it werked - mr y has a rotating harem, a flat in san fran, and a phoundation to invoice for the lot - and i don't
mircea_popescu: reads to me more like a cry for help.
mircea_popescu: so your theory'd be, fitting with the above, that this is what they called a "sensitive child" who is trying to assuage his existential vertigo by "taming" [pseudo]science to play the role of a sort of marketing ?
mircea_popescu: I’m not sure why you’d use persuasion/marketing as a shiny metaphor for science, other than its the theme of this chapter. ”If you know science you can manipulate people as if you were literally in control of them” seems like a broad, and mostly untrue claim.
mircea_popescu: This whole conversation feels ham fisted, Hariezer is consistently telling us about all the manipulative tricks they are both using. Its less a conversation and more people who just sat through a shitty marketing seminar trying to try out what they learned. WITH RAPE.
mircea_popescu: very successful with a certain age range, mostly because well... the gals are itching for a trashing, but also kinda affraid it may hurt.
decimation: re: education < http://www.wired.com/2015/02/silicon-valley-home-schooling/ < apparently Thiel et.al. were educated in a Montessori school (which was a crazy idea invented by a random italian chick) to let kids decide for themselves "how to be schooled"
mircea_popescu: i dunno if you know this sort - often comes out at the beach. tall, good looking kid, not a jock, has learned some poetry and gazes into the distance a lot.
mircea_popescu: ah. she was a common whore.
mircea_popescu: ceausescu was a shoemaker.
mircea_popescu: in any case, .ro space has a coupla of these, "artists" that wish to be philosophers/scientists. the result is endless lol fountain.
asciilifeform out of the loop for a good long spell
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last i saw this crap, it was a series of forum posts...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the parlance of folks who actually program computers on occasion - 'blocks of code are a first-class object' is the claim. which is true for all lisp-family
mircea_popescu: If the Flare interpreter knows that "human" is a class defined in the module "people", then it knows to expect that the tag "arms" refers to an instance member with numeric content. This is how the Flare interpreter knows that 2 means the number 2 and not the string "2".
asciilifeform: obligatory naggumism: ''It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an inspiration to future authors.''
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with it, as a process, but the acultural approach to it... o brother.
asciilifeform: in all fairness, how could it be anything else? not being a historic culture and all
mircea_popescu: "I’m too smart, Professor. I’ve got nothing to say to normal children. Adults don’t respect me enough to really talk to me. And frankly, even if they did, they wouldn’t sound as smart as Richard Feynman, so I might as well read something Richard Feynman wrote instead. I’m isolated, Professor McGonagall. I’ve been isolated my whole life. Maybe that has some of the same effects as being locked in a cellar. An ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lol you know the portrait that emerges is exactly that of the sort of kid i'd bust the nose of within a coupla days of being introduced ?
asciilifeform: (did i mention his 'human-equivalent ai' was to be written in it? this is, of course, before he pronounced fatwa on anyone contemplating such a thing)
asciilifeform: it was rather like a bad ('70s-style) lispalike with xml (yes, xml) for all forms
asciilifeform: mr y had... a programming language! cooked up in his days of being a self-important kid with just a few dozen cult followers
mircea_popescu: it's... bad. it's bad in a literary sense, and it's arguably worse in a science sense.
mircea_popescu: lol that'd be a debate. which side is he to take ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you saying he's just a very inept writer of [fan]fiction ?
mircea_popescu: listen, a large crowd of bearded idiots following the child prophet is no proof of the child's anything.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every year shall bring more.. << give the charlatans some credit here. yudkowsky, for instance, carefully disassembled the broken husk of christianity and soldered all the loose pieces together in a way that it sorta runs again for folks on the right half of bell curve
asciilifeform would point out that 'turned into small cat' does not have to violate conservation laws if cat is peculiarly dense, or if the excess mass had been teleported a room away (which in itself does not have to violate conservation) -- but this is probably not what the thing was about
funkenstein_: you give us a chance we will get it wrong. that's why it is so important to have those stupid signs up you mentioned.
mircea_popescu: but still, hot damn, semidoctus is becoming a byword for homo interneticus.
mircea_popescu: of course this argument falls apart once one considers that - according to various muppets cca 1900, "physics was a closed science", so by the logic above proposed everyone should be kept from nature itself as they muck it up.
mircea_popescu: no, but because acquiring a monkey-ish familiarity with material is a trivial task, which will then prevent an ambitious and inexperienced actor from actually learning anything.
funkenstein_: just to make more of a challenge for us?
mircea_popescu: if you add all the money people think they're worth, and divide by all the value that actually exists, you only get a few degrees of magnitude out of the process.
mircea_popescu: that's a topic that desperately needs awareness, the bezzle's nothing compared to the igzzle.
mircea_popescu: Poor, misguided random internet person- your donation to MIRI/LessWrong will not help save the world. Even if you grant all their (rather silly) assumptions MIRI is a horribly unproductive research institute- in more than a decade, it has published fewer peer reviewed papers than the average physics graduate student does while in grad school."
mircea_popescu: "I read the comments on an HPMOR chapter, which I recommend strongly against. I wish I could talk to several of the commentators, and gently talk them out of a poor financial decision.
mircea_popescu: this is a better meme than fu im a dragon.
mircea_popescu: "You turned into a cat! A SMALL cat! You violated Conservation of Energy! That’s not just an arbitrary rule, it’s implied by the form of the quantum Hamiltonian! Rejecting it destroys unitarity and then you get FTL signalling!”
decimation: http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~augustin/pub/chaintreau08opportunistic.pdf < interestingly, 'gossip-based' has become a buzzword in some of this network research
mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> he posts a ton of extremely ambitious ideas i'd love to see him come through on one of them << you have to understand this is now, thanks to moldbug et all, an internet pose.
decimation: nasa et.al. spend money on usg think tanks to try to come up with a protocol that will magically switch between store-and-forward and low-latency as the channel permits
funkenstein_: i think you have a point. seems like a really good abstract thinker but sometimes you want a dumb network
funkenstein_: he posts a ton of extremely ambitious ideas i'd love to see him come through on one of them
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: the real purpose of this 'proposal', if it has a purpose, is 'let's keep thinking about how to kill nodes not controlled by Phoundation'
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: anything involving hard time-bounds on a packet-switched net is lunacy
asciilifeform: http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/33602678 << big moment in the history of that particular set of idiots. they will putter around with 'remote attestation' crap and will end with an inevitable 'most of the nodes are not True Nodes, a True Node is this here sealed crate from us, just plug it in'
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/a-trip-you-may-have-taken-redux/
mircea_popescu: "you know, the one that's like a gorilla"
mircea_popescu: btw, i finally found the source of that debate we had earlier as to how powerful a chimp is etc.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron> trinque, he didn't earn it; some uncle died and left it to him for the purpose of funding open source << When someone seems this committed to a troll job you can't take them at face value
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> he almost donated 100k USD to OpenBSD and gave it to freebsd instead << That part seems to have been totally just a troll hob
mircea_popescu: so i'm going to rewrite tlp's short story with the druggie in a moment.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054269 << essentially yes. it's a result of social dislocation at the top brought about by sudden technological advance that's poorly digested. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054252 << yes, but then again you're not a sadist, you're a masochist. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054242 << actually, being in a venue where "the medium is the message" is absolutely required for someone who has no message past being part of the median. ☝︎
funkenstein_: maybe i should make a real website
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054231 << nonsense. trust is not something that can be derived programatically. whether a guy is black or not, whether an institution is segregated or not has no impact on whether you can trust them. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 19:18:07; davout: question mainly being: can some random derp take already notarized deeds, and clog the pipes with them, because i assume deedbot will listen privately to deeds being submitted, as long as they're signed with a proper key amirite
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 18:41:11; trinque: soon as I find a moment for sanding
trinque: reminds me that the mongols had a slur to refer to city-dwellers