18100+ entries in 0.007s
ave1: The rest in some
tests and also 5 objects in
the zlib code
ave1: I encountered 310 binaries, 207 in docs of c++ lib, 84 in libgo
test
ave1: So I'm working on genesis of gcc and
the second
test build is running. First failed, I expect some more failures before done.
mircea_popescu isn't specifically any kind of usgistani expert, hasn't visited in nigh on
two decades by now, hasn't cared
to for same interval also.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, i wasn'
taware indigence is a bar
to re-entry in
the zone (i'm putting
this here rather
than in a comment for visibility, so moar informed folk can see an' comment)
mircea_popescu: also, comparison with iliterate peasant / highwaty robber's bound
to break down at SOME fucking point.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:53:57 asciilifeform: stalin is remembered as effective king strictly because
the war forced moderation of leukocyte. otherwise, he'd be remembered as exactly like e.g. emperor qin shihuangdi, who beheaded succession of 9000 alchemists for failing
to produce elixir of immortality, until finally gave up in frustration and ate one , fulla hg salts
mircea_popescu is now going
to compose a castle grant
template for deeding later
diana_coman: fwiw I always end up scratching my head at
this "mircea_popescu won't help" because I haven't seen more people
that are more helpful
than mircea_popescu ;
the only way
that "won't help" makes sense
to me is if it's fully qualified as in "won't help your stupidity"
mircea_popescu: #metoo and all
that is merely contemporaneous expression of ~same eternal
thing.
mircea_popescu: that's
the big problem with "helping",
teenagers especially, but not just :
they dun wanna be helped,
they just wanna be insulated from
the consequences of
their idiocy.
mircea_popescu: this ain't a proper need ; and will get no support. it's what
the "need" in
there denotes, rather
than
the plain need.
mircea_popescu: the quote in particular is misleading -- it discusses a stupidity of young women, whereby
they very much as discussed above misrepresent
their "needs" as "support for escaping
the consequence of
their idiocy without needing
to substantially review
theyr cunthead".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:29:43 asciilifeform: fwiw 'talk directly
to mp' when 'i'm in a corner' moar often
than not , in my experience, gives
this output. i accept
this, he's a 'sink or swim' sort of guru. but also not surprised
that phf hesitated
to ask him for an evac chopper .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-23 05:17:58 mircea_popescu: "Needless
to say, I am unamused ; and,
to answer
the
original inquiry in firmer
terms containing no ifs or buts : no, I personally have no further interest in hearing what phf may have
to say on any
topic.
The
time for "ok
then, I will get my logger
to spec by X date and hope
to have my blog up by Y date" came and went, sometime yesterday.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-02 02:14:00 mp_en_viaje: o look at
that, phf logger also quit sometime last night. hey!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-28 19:01:07 mp_en_viaje: as per
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1806991 tradition i don't even have enough information
to distinguish between
the case where "phf bleeding
to death in a minsk ditch" ; "phf in love forgot all about world" ; "phf kidnapped by unreported alien invasion" or literally any other alternative. nfi how
to approach it, either,
tried everything i could
think of.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:20:48 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't
there, at
the
tea
table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he
thought 'already written off' .
mircea_popescu: then how do
they get voice ? oh, you don't intend
to put it in yet ?
diana_coman: splitting into separate key doesn't yet make any sense
to me
mircea_popescu: and i can see
the "hey diana_coman if you dun wanna rate johnny 9
then don't knight'him" ?
diana_coman: well,
the roles are what matter, no? ie it's peers
talk; if
today peers are marked with 9 and
tomorrow with 11, such is history
mircea_popescu: will run into
the usual problem, when will want
to insert
thing between 4 and 5 and
there';s no number
there.'
diana_coman: something like
that; I have no idea re exact numbers but as approach
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong in principle with giving numbers names, i guess. at least, human practice
to date hasn't found it so far.
diana_coman: fwiw it wasn't just /me reaching for "hm,
that might fit in
this here hole"
diana_coman: if you say it's not any and all
to
talk,
the q is : who
to
talk?
mircea_popescu: is
there actual substantial meaning
translated
thereby ? /me shall have
to meditate
mircea_popescu: i mean, i see
the merit, but isn't
this rather
tcp-style overloading of adhocisms ?
mircea_popescu: that scary moment when one notices
the
TWO most recent items in
trilema comments queue are
trackbacks from other people's blogs.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: would a
threshold on your rating of
the person make more sense?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, might still have
to make soem kind of
two-tiered system, because im not going
to either unrate most everyone i have rated now nor let any and all
talk. so i guess ima have
two keysets ? nfi.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:09:41 mircea_popescu: where
the fuck's
that lobbes comment re calling girls/sluts/etc ? not on blog not in log wtf, it was lik last week
mircea_popescu: where
the fuck's
that lobbes comment re calling girls/sluts/etc ? not on blog not in log wtf, it was lik last week
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:06:31 mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : hey
trinque, now
that
there's actually multiple functional castles
the
time's prolly come
to update
the deedbot voice model into awareness of
this situation. so how about a patch making voice in #trilema dependent on ~my~ wot, rather
than deedbot's own ; and similarily in any castles
that ask for it / you come
to an understanding with
the lords
thereof, so
they can use
the voice model
there if
the
mircea_popescu: kinda
the importance of beatings in
the harem -- it sweats
the women out of
the little girls.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:19:15 asciilifeform: diana_coman: no, i actually buy your summary, 'd00d wouldn't fucking
talk'. but i'm also willing
to ask ~why~ didn't
talk ? maybe because erry
time he opened
the door,
there was a beating behind it ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 02:24:17 asciilifeform: it was enheartening
tho when diana_coman ate ffa 1-19 and commented. apparently it was edible by at least 1 . (even if
took a maffs doctor )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:23:33 diana_coman:
there is always (and still available and I'd like
to see it
taken by phf, yes)
the place in other castles; so I suppose, if one must answer
the question,
the
threshold as I see it atm = reaching
to ban from *other* castles.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 01:39:18 mircea_popescu:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935529 <<
there's about zero chances i'll
tell someone what
to do with
things
that don't interest me. i mean it's not even fucking possible, altogether, by reason of logical inconsistency : if you're not interested in a
toy, how
the fuck can you summon
the basis upon which
to
tell others what
to do with it ? if you're interested
then
the same
thing upon which
t mircea_popescu: this way
the ad-interim imaginaria of a bot's wot can be put back on
the shelf where it belongs.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : hey
trinque, now
that
there's actually multiple functional castles
the
time's prolly come
to update
the deedbot voice model into awareness of
this situation. so how about a patch making voice in #trilema dependent on ~my~ wot, rather
than deedbot's own ; and similarily in any castles
that ask for it / you come
to an understanding with
the lords
thereof, so
they can use
the voice model
there if
they wanna.
mircea_popescu: because duh, "nobody ever got hanged for being a stupid cunt",
the foundational myth of
the inca state.
mircea_popescu: and it's self-perpetuating,
too. if i
take
the
trouble
to actually write a
trilema piece for his dumb ass, something absolutely nobody's entitled
to expect,
the result's more elaborate disavowal and general cuntery, rather
than an awakening
to sense.
mircea_popescu: and
THIS is what's meant by "if you hang out with retards you'll become retarded" : dude spent so much
time with
the ustards, he is now behaving like a stupid cunt. his discovery of having fucked up doesn't lead
to "omfg, i fucked up SO BAD". it leads
to "oh, republic is abusive".
mircea_popescu: as a sure-fire heuristic, only dumb cunts discover "they were abused" as a disavowed result misrepresented as driving cause of contemplating how
they fucked up.
mircea_popescu: dood
to
this fucking day imagines himself a "basically decent" fellow who "was oppressed" by
the meanies of
this world for "his bad luck". because
idiocy comes in layers, lucifer went straight
to hell
thinking himself i nthe right on
the same exact process also. it's a
thing.
mircea_popescu: which of
these
two would you propose was followed here ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:17:36 asciilifeform: diana_coman: changed how ? grow extra pair of hands ? a
tree-proof arse ?
mircea_popescu: in any case, let's just say
that
trigger avoidance is a comparatively poorer strategy
mircea_popescu: it doesnt' even understand what
the fuck's happening
to it when it passes out, seems rather like a ~momentary~ inexplainable nonsense / witchcraft best not ever considered past
the moment, forgotten as soon as it passed as part and parcel of what being a dog even is ;
there's no anxious dogs because dogs have no memory in
this reflexive sense.
mircea_popescu: it's a dog,
though, it has no fucking idea it's walking about looking for
that final
trigger.
mircea_popescu: it's how large dogs die, as
this one'll die. and when it dies, whatever
the fuck will have been ~the
trigger~. whatever
the fuck inconsequential event, a car honking, a cat jumping, a bad dream,
things
that happen daily
to other dogs
to no ill effect.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 12:56:02 asciilifeform: diana_coman:
the
trigger for
the entire episode. was
the loss of
the logger .
mircea_popescu:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935581 << of course
the
trigger was
the
trigger. what's in a
trigger ? my neighbour has
this eight year old dog. it's a large dog, and in large dogs eight is pretty much
the end of
the line. it's coming for her,
too,
three or four
times already she passed out running / fell over, sat
there squirming in desperation. heart's giving out.
mircea_popescu: not
that very many manage even as it is -- but i'll be fucked with
thistlestalks before i make
that 9/10ths 19/20ths, holy hell, i'll need spare wrists.
mircea_popescu: come
to
think about it ... yo asciilifeform , do you realise about 9/10ths of
trilema
the blog by mass is spurious introduction, which i could very well "do without" by employing a similar
tironian process, except
then nobody in
the whole fucking world could follow what
the fuck's being said anymore ?
mircea_popescu: i don't expect anyone can actually
talk
to alf who isn't both very intellectualyl lively and has a lot of experience
talking
to alfs. which
technically is
the definition of autism, i guess.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it is also
terse, missing out on about 2/3 of
the introductions does save some space.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 12:20:12 diana_coman: asciilifeform:
that wasn't at all
the issue and it has been already pointed out
to you several
times, here and on
trilema.com
mircea_popescu: that's why he's
the lord of over
there : so you don't have
to be.
mircea_popescu: and if he doesn't, yes, very much exactly beheaded in
the same way for
the same reasons.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 12:15:28 asciilifeform: for
that matter, we still have a system like
this -- deedbot. is
trinque doomed
to same fate as phf, if he ever 'gets lucky' and
trapped on cannibal island , and it
takes him a week
to knife his way out ?
mircea_popescu: Yes, obviously, as per long standing republican doctrine (and standing as such since long before
this particular republic was even declared)
the lord can get away with bloody murder. Of course he can. But
this doesn't mean it's not murder, or not bloody."
mircea_popescu: the only law is
this :
that if you don't want
to have
to write 3600 digits, don't fucking start with 1337!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:52:55 diana_coman: asciilifeform: for
the other
thing,
the situation you describe can indeed very well happen and yes, a problem, but
the solution can never be "restrain your adverse reaction"
mircea_popescu:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935554 << it's not like it's fucking arbitrary, might as well ask sums
to "moderate
themselves", why not, write letter
to factorial, "dear factorial, your results are computationalyl challenging, and it is unfair
to most numbers above 10 or so
that
they can never feel safe in being followed up by an exclamation point like
their single-digit bretheren. why won't you moderat
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:19:51 asciilifeform: diana_coman: let's reformulate. it
takes a very long
time
to produce 1st class people. (as a pedagogue, you know
this.) if
they burn up faster
than
they are produced --
this is a problem.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:49:58 asciilifeform: it is very easy
to say 'they were weak, fughet'em'. but fact remains,
they were not replaced , of yet .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:53:01 mircea_popescu: it'll solve all
the world's problems regardless : either
through zeroing, or else
through solving.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:52:19 diana_coman:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935464 - hm,
this sounds
to me like
the fundamental difference causes/purposes all over again; you are looking at what is needed (work done and done well!) and
that's your start, so you build backwards, ending up with basically "too needed
to fail" sort of
thing.