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asciilifeform: his forum housed the largest collection of people who showed symptoms of having a brain which i ever encountered prior to #b-a
mircea_popescu: decimation some other guy got a job as area supervisor of kfc, you know ? nothing wrong with it.
decimation: well, insofar as it acts as a bezzlar sink, no
poli_: Is Milk here? I have a question regarding Bitbets.
mircea_popescu: decimation hardly much of a problem neh ?
asciilifeform: specifically that any 'superintelligence' not crafted under his tutelage would inevitably turn into a world-burner of superstupid
asciilifeform: in his doctrine, it wasn't specified as something they would necessarily do to reproduce in the animal sense, but as a side-effect of operation
asciilifeform: from an illustration where a malevolent apparatus converts all of the matter in the universe into paperclips.
bitstein: asciilifeform:he actually proclaimed a fatwa, since deleted (iirc) justifying the murder of anyone who might risk bringing about this situation << Roko's Basilisk at least frightened people enough for him to delete everything about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LessWrong#Roko.27s_basilisk
asciilifeform: 'phoom' is, in his cosmology, the conflagration resulting from a 'non-friendly' (read: not designed under mr y's tutelage) thinking machine which sets to work improving and crafting copies of self
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/H%2B_Cover_1.jpg << "Cover of the first issue of h+ Magazine, a web-based quarterly publication that focuses on transhumanism."
mircea_popescu: The concept of the technological singularity, or the ultra-rapid advent of superhuman intelligence, was first proposed by the British cryptologist I. J. Good in 1965: "Let an ultraintelligent machine be defined as a machine that can far surpass all the intellectual activities of any man however clever."
decimation: asciilifeform: hey, they have a research program
asciilifeform: decimation: never mind that not one could describe the first thing about building a computer which does not barf regularly
mircea_popescu: think you are stupid</a>.
mircea_popescu: Hello, <A href=http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1059095>we ☝︎
assbot: 3 results for 'vinge' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=vinge
asciilifeform: vinge was (is?) a maths prof who went off the reservation and turned into a 3rd rate sf writer
mircea_popescu: "Extropy also attempts to describe the nature of the order, so a crystal , although highly ordered would have low extropy, but an organism or machine would have high extropy because of the informational structure contained within it. "
mircea_popescu: "Extropy is a proposed opposing concept to entropy. As entropy decreases , signifying more order, so extropy would increase in the manner of negentropy."
mircea_popescu: how about "marketeers without a product" ?
mircea_popescu: so like... being a playboy model without the tits ?
assbot: 0 results for 'digirati' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=digirati
assbot: 6 results for 'jaron lanier' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=jaron+lanier
mircea_popescu: "Max More (born Max T. O'Connor, January 1964) is a philosopher and futurist who writes, speaks, and consults on advanced decision-making about emerging technologies."
asciilifeform: he actually proclaimed a fatwa, since deleted (iirc) justifying the murder of anyone who might risk bringing about this situation
asciilifeform: when tech was actually kinda moving, '70s-80s, and a number of things looked quasi-plausible with one eye closed
mircea_popescu: dude omfg... this is a parody is it ?
mircea_popescu: "Influenced by seminal works of science fiction, the transhumanist vision of a transformed future humanity has attracted many supporters and detractors from a wide range of perspectives." aaahahahaha
mircea_popescu: "This hypothesis would lay the intellectual groundwork for the British philosopher Max More to begin articulating the principles of transhumanism as a futurist philosophy in 1990 and organizing in California an intelligentsia that has since grown into the worldwide transhumanist movement."
asciilifeform: trinque: they have a literal version of this!
trinque: there's gotta be a damn circuit for this shit in the head
mircea_popescu: maybe humanity could go to transyale and get a transphd ?
mircea_popescu: it's a thing, all this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand how the world works. "nobody's using bitcoin, nobody could have foreseen their using a plane as a rocket and nobody's doing anything better nor anything better could exist than ... you know, raising awareness"
mircea_popescu: why so shy you know ? what's wrong with "Transhumanism is Thiel's stab at b-a. He thinks Omidyar's stab at qntra failed for reasons unrelated."
mircea_popescu: til "transhumanism" has a logo
mircea_popescu: once people try to be run by a bureaucracy however... god help'em.
asciilifeform: can make a computer out of near-anything
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the computer of meat approach may well explain why it sucks so bad since 1900s. not a bad heuristic.
trinque: but doing the accumulation as a good in itself seems to be where the insanity lies?
mircea_popescu: voltaire was a great fan, what are you talking about ?
trinque: I can see the point; a space is declared within which rules and processes accumulate
trinque: person was a fucking moron who worshipped big govt
mircea_popescu: (the Dictionnaire raisonne des sciences, des arts, et des metiers. was essentially a b-a of the time fork of human knowledge of the time. it was wildly successful in spite of being mostly wrong)
trinque: mircea_popescu: sounded like a nothing term to me, meaning "accept that this is so"
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 02:38:35; trinque: PeterL: I was looking for a definition of the phrase
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1058937 << rousseauism, when confronted with "well if the state isn't god's successor, why would anyone listen to it" he came up with a weirdo translation of god in burgeois terms. ☝︎
asciilifeform: his new nick alone was a loud, profane fart in that direction
mircea_popescu: but this is a totally new topic ?
mod6: yeah, and .01337498 and a bunch of other small amounts
mircea_popescu: neways, five cents here, a cent there etc
brendafdez: If that was a feature, we'd be using Freicoin
brendafdez: <Luke-Jr> if there is a nominal inflation that is automatic (beyond the very low percentage caused by mining) that would incentivize spending, and since people want to spend it, adoption (people will accept it). << sounds like keynesian braindamage
trinque: PeterL: I was looking for a definition of the phrase ☟︎
mircea_popescu: <n3xtb1gthng> is there a philosophical reaosn you don't build some level of seigniorage into bitcoin? (as some alt's have)? << about the same sort of philosophical reason as not building a tail into you.
n3xtb1gthng: cazalla you can both spend money and get money? The definition of a 'currency' is just a unit you do this in?
n3xtb1gthng: danielpbarron, I disagree. if twenty people are trading seashells at a rate of twenty trades happen per day, that is high adotpion. at the rate of 1 seashell gets traded per year, that is low adotpion. adoption = spending.
Luke-Jr: n3xtb1gthng: such a thing would violate the social contract; altcoins don't have a preexisting social contract to adhere to
n3xtb1gthng: danielpbarron, I'm totally unclear. spending literally == (=========) adoption, when it comes to a currency?
n3xtb1gthng: I mean a low percentage of seigniorage, not like 10% inflation or anything.
n3xtb1gthng: Luke-Jr, I mean if there is a nominal inflation that is automatic (beyond the very low percentage caused by mining) that would incentivize spending, and since people want to spend it, adoption (people will accept it).
n3xtb1gthng: seigniorage would incentivize spending and usage/adoption. (even at a very moderate leve.)
n3xtb1gthng: is there a philosophical reaosn you don't build some level of seigniorage into bitcoin? (as some alt's have)?
mod6: a routable one :)
BingoBoingo: n3xtb1gthng: Well, a bitcoind build that is bigendian friendly for PPC, SPARC, and 68000 would be the tits
danielpbarron: why does gribble's vwap go away whenever there's the slightest volatility? and why does the vwap work if you get a quote in terms of ounces of gold?
asciilifeform: 'you’re not going to find a cable poking up in the loo of a data centre when it reaches its destination.' << at one point there was a vendor who pushed a 'robotic rat' for doing precisely this
mircea_popescu: to no-one's surprise except i guess a coupla code monkeys here and there who really bought the "doocracy" koolaid.
assbot: How to airgap. A practical guide. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/18NbTBW )
brendafdez: Oh, that's sad, I though I knew eho they'd just hired to look for them. "Yeah I suppose the sad story in here is that if you show supposedly literate teenagers the insides of a USB stick they may be seeing it for the first time, and if you demand they point out the actual memory cores to save their lives they may well not be able to." http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/#comment-95546
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't ask cisco for their own heads on a platter.
asciilifeform: what a muppet show
brendafdez: i thought you may want ot have a laugh and it seems it wasn't shared here yet: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/18/want_to_dodge_nsa_supply_chain_taps_ask_cisco_for_a_dead_drop/
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 04:49:54; asciilifeform: all you have to do, then, is to pile on the meat puppets, until suddenly there is a 'controversy', and there are 'points of view', and eventually - a 'consensus.'
asciilifeform: 'consensus' is a beloved usg-ism >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-11-2014#926290 ☝︎
asciilifeform: for a corpse, he's doing a good deal of dancing.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1058668 << gotta admire the insistence on branding. here's a thought : gavin's neck was broken in public. you don't come out of that by inventing a new word to try and rally support around. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 02:28:39; asciilifeform: 'On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.'
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: and there mircea_popescu observed that such a thing would have to come with a strong proof of equivalence to be worth taking seriously
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: in the old thread, that is; it was about a hypothetical clean re-implementation of the whole thing
Luke-Jr: it's managable with a single implementation
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1058664 << contrary to what you might have erroneously come to believe a) 0.5.1 version as printed by the bitcoin foundation is the cannonical version of bitcoin ; b) various groups of scammers trying to attack bitcoin are continuously pushing their own versions of solidcoin, which has all the importance of ms boring's bitcoin chamber of commerce. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Anyone have a link for britania's private key siezure turding?
mircea_popescu: through a bunch of ignorant twerps using words they don't understand the meaning of, in the context of their self-allocated importance ?
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 01:06:01; asciilifeform: how does a db end up thought of as part of the protocol ?
asciilifeform: do we even get a 'vv' in engl. and if so, what human sound does it correspond to
BingoBoingo: At the time of the 2013 fork I humbly though resolution would be possible. I mean it is just making DB's agree. Yet... LevelDB is a mess.
BingoBoingo would rather not have to run a Bitcoind in -leper mode if he gets more powerful sparc hardware
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: M:N threading was a solaris-like, more-performant-than N:N threading model that nate committed to netbsd, but due to its complexity had to be backed out because nobody could maintain it or reliably fix bugs in it.
asciilifeform shudders to imagine a unixlike os where threading flakes
midnightmagic: like the really unfortunate backout of the M:N threading model on NetBSD. that was a sad time.
midnightmagic: yeah, kernel devs. In context, running bitcoind on -current, probably not a great idea given extensive -current history of breakage
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr> OSs are not a consensus system << No but every OS fork is a far less grave experiment actual onsensus systems must consider
asciilifeform: i had a box with it, for instance
midnightmagic: how is it a stool pigeon?
Luke-Jr: OSs are not a consensus system
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: let's insert a link to the old thread here, so we don't have to repeat it.
BingoBoingo: The entire FreeBSD 10 series is a replay of the 5 series retardation on steroids
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: they dodged a bullet and nobody's called them on it