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nubbins`: not much required reading for
a cs/math joint major
Adlai: right. ender's game's plot, with different words. it doesn't have its own plot, and i need
a few decades before i can read this author again, after children of the mind
danielpbarron:
http://www.atruechurch.info/sabbath.html Those who totally stop every work of their own righteousness (Psalm 16:2; Romans 4:5, "does not work"), and believe on Him who justifies the ungodly (Romans 4:5), these are those who fulfill the law (Romans 8:4) and keep
a perpetual Sabbath (Hebrews 4:3-4, 9-10).
Adlai: you know, the ones that actually have
a plot
nubbins`: just earth geopolitics after
a while
nubbins`: which ender's game book was it where they created
a race of smart people genetically predisposed to OCD?
jurov: dunno if i could resist to troll them with
a bone
jurov: i'd ask them, what if there's
a cemetery below him in australia?
nubbins`: srsly,
a fucking /plastic bag/.
Adlai: in the case of the army - it would be
a terrible failure for the officer to let such
a thing happen!
nubbins`: "The man wrapped in plastic, whose photograph first appeared on the Redditor site and later on the Gothamist site, apparently did not want to take any chances. By covering himself in plastic, he established
a separation between him and impurities."
nubbins`: "Kohenim are prohibited from coming into contact with dead bodies, and many rabbis have taken the strict opinion that
a Kohen may not ride in
a plane if he knows ahead of time that it will fly directly over
a Jewish cemetery."
Adlai: there's
a sub-race (seriously, they consider themselves
a separate tribe-within-the-tribe) who are not allowed to / don't enter cemeteries
nubbins`: this man is -- no joke -- protecting himself from w/e by completely enclosing himself in
a plastic bag.
Adlai: orthodox jew in
a fullbody condom
Adlai: (functions as
a plot element, not
a copout)
trinque: however
a copy of you would be distinguishable to you
trinque: you is
a broken concept for sure
nubbins`: there's
a large chunk of the book that could be misidentified as schizo by the unqualified observer
☟︎ Adlai: and it's
a stretch to say that professional actors are schizophrenic, although many of them do seem to fear zoltan
Adlai: most people roleplaying at conventions aren't even as 'dissociated' as
a good method actor
nubbins`: asciilifeform i published an (embellished) bio of
a man with schizophrenia
nubbins`: you apparently see at comic-con type events
a lot of people who have an "other self"
Adlai: well, you do become 'less yourself', until there's nothing left... although it's
a more complex process than just cells dying
☟︎ jurov: when you're telling
a story you're doing it to some purpose
trinque: jurov: hm, seems just like what one does telling
a story to another
trinque: 2c-e was
a hell of
a journey once upon
a time
trinque: Adlai: that one's on the list for when I can take
a long enough vacation
nubbins`: i had
a roomie who did this with moderate success
nubbins`: and you'll find your dream-self holding
a doorknob wondering if you're dreaming
Adlai: the idea is to build
a habit of doubting whether you're awake
trinque: I run
a business, too reactionary atm
nubbins`: take melatonin, and every time you touch
a doorknob or
a light switch in waking life, ask yourself "am i dreaming?"
trinque: the scenarios the mind can simulate... I'd like
a pill someday that causes lucid dreaming
trinque: man when I was
a kid, I'd have bizarre dreams
danielpbarron: Adlai> note that you can actually get cevs by doing just this, if you can keep your eyeballs from moving for ~5 minutes << i used to do this when getting lecured by my mother as
a child
Adlai: someone (iirc dennett) lamented that everybody has their own theory of consciousness, as though this was
a bad thing!
jurov: lol "we don't know what is
a consciousness? let's say it is composed of many of itself"
☟︎ Adlai: you've never had
a thought spring fully-formed into your mind ?
trinque: still in my experience there is
a distinction between that which is thought and the singular experience of observing that
Adlai: yes. in such
a multiverse, there are an infinite number of identical 'people', but each one thinks of itself as itself. the others are fungible, but the self is unique.
nubbins`: Adlai not to mention that in the very next arbitrarily small slice of time, each of those 21 sets of atoms is now in
a different state
trinque recalls flopping around in front of
a couch, saying to no one, "holy fuck, this is me!"
Adlai: trinque: let's say harriezer has
a 4d scanner, which he uses to capture the entire state of your brain, down to the atom. he then simulates twenty copies of this brain, each in its own simulated universe. even if you believe that there would now be 21 conscious trinques, the other twenty would be distinct from you. kinda like finding out about an identical twin that was separated from you at birth.
nubbins`: fair warning, that's
a one-way street 8)
nubbins`: no, but do enough lsd and you'll find
a non-verbal definition
trinque: I do not think there's
a verbal definition of being
danielpbarron: it's another tower of babel for man to think he can write
a program to simulate his own brain better than it already is
trinque: there's
a mental defect where one considers himself to be an idea
☟︎ trinque: and I think
a better way than not considering it at all
jurov: someone go grow
a finger from yudkowski's dna and tell him you have the rest of his clone in cellar
☟︎ Adlai: it's like saying that in The Prestige, whatsisname is
a mass-murderer... he's not, he just fork()s
trinque: I took
a look at less wrong
a while ago, and decided I could find an easier fetish
trinque: dunno if ddos is
a problem anymore, but it has happened
trinque: wasn't
a proposal though :p
nubbins`: that is *not* how you make
a secret compartment in
a book.
nubbins`: danielpbarron why not just get
a similarly-sized NKJV and swap it out?
nubbins`: jurov i think it's used more as
a reference manual than
a novel
danielpbarron: i don't need fancy thingys; just the whole NKJV text pocket sized with
a zipper so the pages don't get messed up when i travel with it but w/e my KJV works well enough
nubbins`: "The "great majority of incunables did not issue from the press in
a finished state ... hardly any incunable was considered 'finished' by its printer ...", suggesting that hand rubrication provided
a sense of legitimacy to the efforts of early printers and their works."
nubbins`: that one's
a particularly uh, embellished example
nubbins`: nicer embellishments by the rubricators meant
a higher selling price
nubbins`: the red and blue ink were added afterward, by hand, and the printer left
a blank space for them
nubbins`: that's what
a paragraph break looks like
danielpbarron: actually maybe nubbins` can help me there; I have this really nice pocket Bible with
a zipper and real leather, but it's KJV and i'd like it in NKJV
nubbins`: he's got one that's
a reproduction of the 1st-edition gutenberg bible
nubbins`: friend of mine has
a ton of bibles
danielpbarron: one of the best places to get like-new Bibles is
a used book store
☟︎ ascii_field: went to find
a soft-leather-bound Bible with gold edges on the India paper, just like I had wanted and asked for, without unwelcome suggestions or anyone pretending to know better than me. It was so respectful I almost got religion, myself. '
ascii_field: Shrugged,
A New Kind of Science, and then other people chimed in with suggestions for Gray's Anatomy, The Chicago Manual of Style, and the 25-year anniversary edition of Gödel, Escher, Bach, all of them arguing that if I wanted the most important book, I would want their suggestions. I scremed, "Enough!", and space just as suddenly warped back to the bookstore and the very helpful young Muslim woman behind the counter
ascii_field: ' I went to my local bookstore the other day. I wanted to give
a beautifully bound Bible to
a Christian friend of mine. Suddenly, I felt space around me warp and I was in USENET space. People from comp.lang.scheme offered me
a beutifully bound Torah. People from comp.lang.dylan offered me
a beautifully bound Koran. People from elsewhere on the Net offered me beautifully bound copies of The Lord of the Rings, Atlas
nubbins`: ascii_field there's
a woman in town who's been binding for years, has an ancient letterpress setup. i'd say she'd at least know where to point me for leather work
cazalla: what's that..
a bit over 700ml.. damn that's
a good effort BingoBoingo
ascii_field: in the sense that
a typical artisan binder would probably react to my laser suggestion the same way my musical friends react to the suggestion of connecting my air compressor to the tuba
☟︎ nubbins`: harkens back to the first time i rcv'd
a mouser catalog
ascii_field: bookbinding is rather like music in
a sense
nubbins`: their print catalog is
a particular joy
nubbins`: cutting press sounds like
a fair synonym