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andreicon: but i
take pride in being an above-average
thinker so i'm sure i'm in
the right place. just don't know why until i read
the 22mn lines of logs
andreicon: i'm not exactly sure whether i'm supposed
to intervene or just observe
andreicon: i'm not a good example, i'm in
the right place for
the wrong reasons
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no leverage gives itslef like a slut in marriage. for it
to give -- you gotta use. it can be used, i'm a fine example of using it.
mircea_popescu: see,
the naive has
the advantage of a very distant bird's eye
mircea_popescu: ironically,
the shitter actually is plugged into
the mains. water dun go uphill by itself.
mircea_popescu: if my os came up with a way
to be exciting i'd probably buy a flamethrower
the same day.
mircea_popescu: what,
the per-acre curiosity secreted by javascript programmer is not substantially different from yours or mine, is it now. andreicon is here because he wanted what was it, a more exciting os ?
mircea_popescu: curious about
the wrong
things with very definitely
the wrong people.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 19:00 mircea_popescu:
there's a dazzling depth
to
these pointless shits, which is why
the whole "oh i wonder why ancient people didn't spend more
time
thinking -- i could derive all of euclid in an evening" is so amusing.
mircea_popescu: every one of
these
thrown rocks, flying
through
the air propelled by
the historical power of
their ancestor's accumulated wealth (aka, wisdom and work) will hit
the wall somewhere.
this was her somewhere. not
that different from all
the others.
mircea_popescu: the point isn't
the mistake, but
the fact
that girl collapsed as a writhing, mucuous mess under
the whip, because ~couldn't~.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-02 00:20 mircea_popescu: no power, no pumps (i live up on a hillside) and so i had
the girls... fery water. from
the pool, with ex-paper baskets repurposed as sacas, up
the fucking stairs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider
the following point : girl confronted with
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-02#1678254 and my plain and clear isntructions broke down in
tears, because, in her own estimation, couldn't understand what she's supposed
to do. because had no idea whatsoever how
toilet works, imagined it has something
to do with electricity, so of course it can't flush if
there's no power.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: but otherwise, given
the chance, kid will grow into signaller.
mircea_popescu: some parents have
the wit not
to allow
the kids
the former. fewer kids -- also have it, somehow.
mircea_popescu: this is an early decision in human brain development, kid has
to decide if he wants
to learn
to signal or if he wants
to learn
to do. age about 1.5
to 2 or so.
mircea_popescu: but
that is
the point : if you spend your
time learning
to signal instead of learning
to do, you cheat yourself of a chance at life once
the whole dumbery you were exchanging signals with goes away and you're left with just
the
trees, johnny.
mircea_popescu: the guy who learned in earnest how
to "empathy" has not merely lost his
time in
the pursuit of subliterate idiocy ; but actually invested
that
time into implanting harmful gargauni into his skull, much like someone who spends $100
to buy some radium which he
then swallows isn't out merely
the $100 he paid for
the radium
mircea_popescu: the fact
that you've not forcefed raw beef into your daughter when she was 12 is never something
that she can fix ; gym or no gym, poledancing or no poledancing, her
thigh bone will be 99.85% of average length as opposed
to
the maximal 103.557% her genotype might've allowed her fenotype
to
turn out.
mircea_popescu: and so in
this sense,
the problem of
the reddit hacker isn't something he does. it's something he did.
mircea_popescu: this is at
the core of identity --
that if you spend your youth with idiots, whether you ~could have been~ smart or not, an idiot will you be.
mircea_popescu: there is a
time when his neurons were making
the connection-and-myelinization decision.
that
time came and went, a decision some way or another was made, and it is
there for all
time.
mircea_popescu: similarily,
the child who was raised by wolves (as still practiced
today, in india as well as maryland) will never learn proper speech.
mircea_popescu: phf consider
this : in many insects, as well as reptiles and other inferior (and
therefore simpler) lifeforms,
the male/female decision, or else
the reproductor/drone decision (such as in bees) is not made genetically, like it is in mammals, but
through some manner or other
the egg comes with a lever settable in
the field so
to speak. now --
the male lizzard come out of egg
that was cold in its youth ain't never going
to be f
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 02:47 asciilifeform: in such a way as
to judas goat
the authors of said code
to rewrite it such
that it DEMANDS
the new 'improved' compiler.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 21:07 mircea_popescu: phf "they made it an error
to locally shadow cl package symbols," is
this direct centralism
then, "we own
the names in your machine -- not you" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 20:41 mircea_popescu: and yet i'll remember
the djb urchin cocksucker long after i've forgotten
the djb mathematician. for
that matter petain was a very respectable military officer. in world war i. possibly a higher caliber
than anyone else in
the ifeld
then. and ?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 16:02 phf: i don't understand
the points
that you're both
trying
to make
mircea_popescu: the stories of people stuck dealing with
the empire crapolade all sound alike, much like
the stories of people stuck dealing with romania's 90s orphanages, or generally with
the output of any other "realist" ideology.
diana_coman: you know, I WAS
thinking it sounded so much like planeshit...
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 15:32 asciilifeform: 'i have 9000 layers of metatronics keeping
track of own navel lint'
deedbot: diana_coman rated andreicon 1 << actively searches for more exciting
things in his life
diana_coman: !!rate andreicon 1 actively searches for more exciting
things in his life
mircea_popescu: phf "they made it an error
to locally shadow cl package symbols," is
this direct centralism
then, "we own
the names in your machine -- not you" ?
☟︎ andreicon: sorry,
trinque, i'm still getting used
to whatever irc clients are available. irssi ftw. also sleep > wake cycles
diana_coman: quite;
though youth simply does not have anything personal yet and certainly no history of its own
mircea_popescu: far as you know,
ted
turner's brainchild is just as existent as von steuben's commander general.
mircea_popescu: did washington "really exist" moreso
than say "captain planet" ? in what "objective" ie non-wot-based approach.
mircea_popescu: i can see it going
that far. all who died never existed
to begin with, which is why
there's so little interest youth derives from one's own personal history.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman and what are
the dead but just a dream we dream.
trinque: andreicon, going
to want
to get a permanent connection, and stop
the join / part noise.
diana_coman: at
the extreme
that means
then
that well, it died
therefore it never existed
to start with
mircea_popescu: phf: for
the longest
time i
thought
that common lisp spec is a magic paper against modernization. << check it out,
the apotropaion of lisp!
diana_coman: but
then it got eaten; failed
to adapt basically, which in one way all death is
mircea_popescu: i dunno.
the fact is
that
the core rotting away results in
the conclusion
that "there was no core
to begin with" rather
than in
the conclusion rthat "it had a core -- but
then it ated it."
diana_coman: I'm really more exploring where
this goes rather
than having some solid
thing on it either way
mircea_popescu: antonescu's letter
to
the
turpitidinous "traditional parties" even references some speech of his.
mircea_popescu: and yet i'll remember
the djb urchin cocksucker long after i've forgotten
the djb mathematician. for
that matter petain was a very respectable military officer. in world war i. possibly a higher caliber
than anyone else in
the ifeld
then. and ?
☟︎ diana_coman: that much is clear re preference and all
that;
the retroactive part is at least...interesting if not iffy outright
mircea_popescu: "leonidas died young, and when asked by someone why is he dying young, leonidas answer
that he prefers
the citizenry wonder why leonida is already dead
than
to bemoan leonidas still being
there."
mircea_popescu: yes, i would say
that
to die senile is some kind of retroactive macula on one's intellectual history.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, re core: disease/old age can eat out a person's core in more
than geometrical sense; do you mean
that any person who didn't die core-intact basically had no proper core
to speak of?
diana_coman: maybe;
the more general distinction
that kind of held was southern/northern or eastern/western and moreover in
the sense familiar /foreign/very foreign
mircea_popescu: could just as well have had
that patchwork set instead of
the current patchwork set.
mircea_popescu: this sounds counterintuitive, but
they're all
talking of
the same
thing. no longer "ethnically determined state", as it happens, but
that's happenstance.
diana_coman: eh,
to Italians in
the South I looked...German!
diana_coman: should have said also: gypsy *enough* - because I certainly looked "Italian"
to austrians and "gypsy" or ukrainian
to Russians etc
mircea_popescu: but
the point is for
the core
to not be rustable, if it's
to be a core at all. otherwise what's core mean ? geometrically derived ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, myeah;
thing is rust eats out core until
there's nothing left but
that's not
to say
there was just powder
to start with; or in any case, not in any other sense
than "it's all powder"
a111: Logged on 2017-07-09 15:56 phf: lotta "romanian" girls now, i.e. darker, gypsy looking ones. is
that normal for romanian girls, or
that sort of
type is purely gypsies?
mircea_popescu: generally
the republican outlook is substance before form (aka, idealism, aka exactly heine's "Herab auf Euer romantisches Haupt des Himmels modernste Blitze") whereas
the imperial outlook is "context only" hence
the pantsuit's demographic delusion re 2016 elections.
andreicon: wife is bitter cause
the husband hit her
andreicon: wives are just women if
there's no husband
mircea_popescu: ? are wives condemned
to bitter unpleasantness for simply being wives ?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 15:07 diana_coman: well, I can't see how slow accumulation of concession
to shit leads
to anything other
than "chemically bonds
to it" at some point
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682471 << it all goes back
to
the following fundamental : is
there a substance
to
things beyond
the context, or isn't
there ? (traditionally stated by ustardia as "nature-nurture conflict", which is nonsense). in any case -- can you
take
the
tica out of
the barn and
the barn out of
the
tica ? or just one ? does
the whore become ~substantially~ unwife
through living in
the brothel long enough
☝︎ andreicon: i
think imma keep
the help page in a
tab somewhere
andreicon: you wanna hear me
talkin or you wanna see me workin?
phf: andreicon: now would probably be
the right
time
to figure out deedbot's challenge/response dance for self-up, since you're now registered and in wot
andreicon: dunno, i
tried windows 2016 datacenter with containers on azure
a111: Logged on 2017-03-26 15:03 mp_en_viaje: basically a novel vector of imperial attack seems
to be
this "let's
take republican items and ~EXPAND~
the downstream so
that siberian river attack is
then feasible".