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ben_vulpes: in practice, i'm unaware of anyone offering to manage btc between MPOE/BBET/NSA/BTC for
a fee.
PeterL: You don't see
a niche for
a mutual fund covering MPEx?
PeterL: you just need
a couple slave girls with some cameras to tour all teh libraries
PeterL: but you can passively invest with
a broker who is in the WoT
ben_vulpes: this "passive investment" routine is
a holdover from the fiat days.
ben_vulpes: all of the above is why btcjam is
a scam from the -assets perspective.
ben_vulpes:
a good scammatron has totally legitimate uses and users.
felipelalli: And it makes more impersonal and passive. Instead to make
a spam asking for money to your family and friends (active and personal), you can just publish the list (passive and impersonal) and anyone can invest if they want, or just ignore. Like 5 people I know personally invest their first 30% and the rest was "friends of friends". It just worked to me because I had
a good "outside WoT".
felipelalli: They were just like
a tool to make easy contact 30 friends at the same time, and make it in 5 min. (actually in this 30 friends there were friends of friends, like level 2 in WoT))
felipelalli: But I could easily be found there. And I have personal friends there, that I know it is
a secure investment. That's why I only had profit, very few lost.
PeterL: you might be
a fine investment, but btcjam is not
felipelalli: They could invest on me there. I was
a very secure investment, e.g.
felipelalli: ben_vulpes: I thought it was
a global problem, but I learned here that: 1) there are rich guys (you guys) that really don't care about it. 2) there are guys with rich friends :) 3) your interest rate are ridiculous cheap. BTCJam really don't solve anything to you.
felipelalli: But now, BTCJam simply eliminated the free market where the user could choose its own interest rate (and let it free to investors fund or not), and they automagically calculate the interest rate. With this new rule, I can get by 3.5% per month. That is not
a huge problem for me, actually, I was using this more like
a test. But they simply buried the "service". Even if it was
a zombie's forehead shot.
felipelalli: Itaú normal interest rate: 7% PER MONTH. My interest rate in Itaú (because I am an old client): 4.8%. BTCJam: 2.8%. It makes
a huge difference when you calculate the compound interest per year.
☟︎ felipelalli: like
a village without bank". You guys forget that I live in Brazil, shit of country.
felipelalli: right lists, and the right rates. I really want to understand better why you guys dislike it so much. In my country the interest rates are very high. In my bank, for example, I can get
a loan with 7% per month MIN! APR 125% and in BTCJam I made some tests and I could get my first loand with 3% per month (42% APR) and then the second 2.8% (39% APR). The loan is so fucking high in bank that I can say like mircea_popescu said: "we are
pete_dushenski: one of the trickier conversations to break up, i admit, but it's
a little better now.
pete_dushenski: trinque: haha i actually did
a few lessons on there ! back when i started 'sabbatical'
pete_dushenski: in german, i have hello, goodbye, sorry, counting to 10, and
a few other random words
pete_dushenski: my digging was more concentration camp focused, but i guess you bring up
a good point that there's was
a huge breadth of inquiry at the time
PeterL: I wonder if google is cacheing the info on servers outside the US, so they could outlast
a US collapse?
decimation: I like moldbug's theory: those 'with
a brain' are generally engaged in spending all their time battling each other
trinque: I don't buy that such overtly, cynically powerful entities have not
a single functioning brain within
decimation: I don't buy that there is
a meta-google
trinque: they'll be powerful for
a long time.
trinque: the company has more information than arguably any other, and is building
a robot army
trinque: who gives
a fuck who's working on gmail
decimation: the assumption of competence when it comes to
a big bureaucracy is generally
a poor one
decimation: trinque: in the olden days it was expected your local isp would provide
a usenet server and collect archives
PeterL: I used
a couple "google groups" for
a while, before I moved up to the bitcoinTalk forum
trinque: I'm not old enough to have experienced
a usenet golden age
decimation: do you have
a collection of custom scripts to turn
a pile of images into
a pdf/djvu
decimation: asciilifeform: how do you 'scan and post'
a book? I just fujitsu scansnap
trinque: there are
a few attempts at doing it with
a shitty alt-coin
trinque: asciilifeform: I have long wanted
a system where member nodes can all publish wads 'o gpg stuff, peers don't know the contents of the wad, give each-other redundancy
☟︎ trinque: that idea is better off being
a tool you run against your own bitcoind
decimation: sure, or at least
a hash/pointer to the same
PeterL: would deedbot be
a suitable place to publish scientific research?
☟︎ PeterL: new #B-
A need: print off all the articles and store in
a library
☟︎ nubbins`: "everything is online" is
a fine premise for commodity data
nubbins`: fwiw "everything is online now" people generally miss out on
a broad spectrum of opportunity
☟︎ decimation: PeterL: it's not
a bad idea if you can scam someone into paying for it
PeterL: asciilifeform:and to the extent it isn't
a problem, it is solely because academia is mostly dead as
a going concern << and here I go trying to get back into it :(
PeterL: btw, I'm
a couple days behind in the logs
PeterL: asciilifeform:the same folks who were paying the parasites (i will not call them publishers, they withhold only - performing not
a single one of the traditional functions of
a publishing house save the physical printing) - will continue to pay. << what is this "physical printing"? everything is online now
nubbins`: got
a new battery and upgraded to 8gb ram
a couple months ago
pete_dushenski: but unless it's too slow for your needs, like decimation said,
a new hdd or battery is all you'll likely need
nubbins`: maybe i'll just try stocking up on
a full set of spare parts for this late-2008 macbook
nubbins`: my criteria are (
a) not plastic body (b) no money given to MS
decimation: if you want 'cheap, don't care', you could buy
a chromebook and reflash
nubbins`: haha, i actually have
a laptop w/ coreboot: OLPC XO-1.
trinque: pete_dushenski: I'm on
a lenovo turd currently, do not recommend
nubbins`: i honestly abhor the idea of
a plastic laptop
trinque: I've seen
a system76 in person, seemed like
a piece of shit
decimation: my recommendation is you purchase
a laptop on the 'coreboot' list & flash your own bios
nubbins`: otherwise, your choices are (
a) give MS $25 or (b) fuck off
nubbins`: my next laptop will probably be
a cheap desktop + chromebook
decimation: the argument being that even if every 'middle class' person in the world purchased
a new apple device they would still only be 'holding steady'
pete_dushenski: if apple has
a slave harem, they win the award for 'dumbest slave harem'
decimation: except apple doesn't really have
a wot so much as it has
a slave harem
nubbins`: <+trinque> decimation:
a friend of mine always says it's
a matter of time before they remove the terminal entirely <<<
a friend of mine says obummer is
a reptilian
nubbins`: decimation
a couple releases ago (maybe 1-2), the default behaviour for applications downloaded by "unknown developers" requires you to right-click,open
trinque: decimation:
a friend of mine always says it's
a matter of time before they remove the terminal entirely
trinque: you make your own self-signed cert then flip
a setting that allows you to run such things
nubbins`: is this
a mac app or an ios app?
decimation: Xcode insisted that I required
a paid apple developer account before I could consider such
a thing, it appears
decimation: the developer in question had already made
a deal with apple to publish the app apparently. I couldn't even compile my own version unsigned for my own personal use
☟︎ nubbins`: anyone have
a suggestion as to where i start figuring out *which* file/directory it can't find?
nubbins`: just fried up
a test piece; wept
nubbins`: my first cdrw drive required
a firmware update