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funkenstein_: transistor tech has changed a bit in 40 years, jet engines not so much
decimation: I would settle for a partizan bank
asciilifeform: decimation: make me so much as a transistor circa 1950 with partizan tech.
asciilifeform: aviation, by and large, only works when you're a mega-state with maxint constantly replaced slaves to parasitise
decimation: not a 'partizan' system
assbot: Logged on 26-11-2014 00:46:13; asciilifeform: have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it.
decimation: kinda like a 'v1', but with the appropriate tracking/seeking system, and an entire fleet in orbit around 'La Serenissima'
asciilifeform: to make a non-usg exchange in usa
mircea_popescu: the only actually available thing is, print a "Obama made this lolz" sticker, try to affix.
decimation: I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket
mircea_popescu: i dunno, draper gets to pretend like he's a savvy businessman ?
mircea_popescu: everything since 2009 or so is a post-dollar discussion.
funkenstein_: i think this is a post dollar discussion
mircea_popescu: the only purpose it would really work for is, giving us a lot of weaponry to kill them with
mircea_popescu: there's a reason usgavin & co pretend like nodes are not important while trying to make them not feasible.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose they make a few peers that use Luke-Jr style rules, and then ddos the ~60 or so remaining nodes.
asciilifeform: (as a candidate for 'fedcoin')
funkenstein_: actually that kinda makes more sense than a separate fedcoin
decimation: didn't you advance a blacklist in gentoo?
assbot: 2 results for 'taxcoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=taxcoin
mircea_popescu: but it jives very well with "so what if we can't control bitcoin - it'd divisible, so let's just carve a kiddy pool and play in there! "
assbot: 50 results for 'whitelist' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=whitelist
assbot: 3 results for 'whitelisting' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=whitelisting
mircea_popescu: sort-of like a usg-run laundromat.
asciilifeform: (which a sufficiently heavy bag of benjies would in principle be)
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 23:54:57; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the problem is they didn't have title << does a suitcase full of benjies have 'title' ? or a tonne of gold bar? or not because fungible
asciilifeform: or at least a coalition of folks who are able to penalize you for violating the title (could wot do this? possibly)
decimation: asciilifeform: the question in my mind is the concept of 'title' without reference to the state. it seems to me that it is meaningless outside a particular legal code
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
asciilifeform: 'It is possible to construct a rational argument, from broadly agreeable premises, that leads directly to the NAP...' << these folks use 'natural law' crapolade as a crutch to avoid the demand of having agency
asciilifeform: 'In fact, I rather suspect that GPG will fade away as other implementations gain currency. It's old, crusty, built from barely readable source code, license terms inhibited, and maintained by people with a pathologically difficult attitude toward various important software development philosophy (e.g. API and UI design)' << mega-l0l. thing is, in a way the fool is right, it 'faded away' the same way common lisp did. which is t
asciilifeform: other than, arguably, satoshi, which is WHY his disappearance is so important << what would a picture with a living satoshi look like ?
asciilifeform: and why exactly is this concept of permission from the state to be recognized as the owner, a useful thing ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the problem is they didn't have title << does a suitcase full of benjies have 'title' ? or a tonne of gold bar? or not because fungible ☟︎
funkenstein_: motherfuckers make me want to do a little research of my own
decimation: http://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/eat-at-dougs/Content?oid=2260720 < related "Jim and Bub watched each other, smirking. Ultimately, Bub couldn't keep quiet anymore. "Mr. Billman, you're about to tear into a 100-percent, grade-A, free-range, Florida-raised dugong steak." "Dugong?" I asked."Manatee." "
nubbins`: doesn't autocatch a /live seal/?
ascii_modem: where nobody gives a phuq
ascii_modem: it was a mindfuck. bunch of possibly remoteexec vulns and no real scandal followed
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> danielpbarron hey, mind writing a "for total noobs" guide for deedbot in the b-a wiki ? << i can do that
gribble: wn: basically adv 1: in essence; at bottom or by one's (or its) very nature; "He is basically dishonest"; "the argument was essentially a technical one"; "for all his bluster he is in essence a shy person" [syn: {basically}, {fundamentally}, {essentially}]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Will do in a bit
mircea_popescu: sorta reads like a promise to keep reader updateds.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: which idiots then go on to "really trust the... << I was always taught never to make a business decision out of emotion. Making a business decision based on "liking someone" fits this methinks.
mircea_popescu: just, manure, as george observed, is almost pleasant if you get down to it : there's a pg, which isn't bad, with a gnu in front of it.
decimation: was that a slight at the gpg maintainers or stallman?
mircea_popescu: and so here we go, " people with a pathologically difficult attitude toward various important software development philosophy (e.g. API and UI design)"
thestringpuller: it's a sickness to say the least.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: when I first joined this channel at the collapse of GLBSE you said, "Scammers just help the legitimate businesses' reputation that much more." My friend this past year went on to say, "In the new world, the most trusted person need not to be liked, because well he's trustworthy. He/She could be a complete asshole if as long as they do their job."
decimation: there's a libertarian fantasy world where humans are required 'play nice' because of some kind of rationalist first-principle
mircea_popescu: once innovation is admitted as an arbitrary construct, well... it's a political matter.
thestringpuller: looks like it, not that it actually does. There is a links from recent qntra article same date as comment that links to GPG contract article on trilema.
mircea_popescu: "It is possible to construct a rational argument, from broadly agreeable premises, that leads directly to the NAP." is a direct equivalent to "i can prove that blue eyes are what god intended"
decimation: aye, a receipt of some kind would be handy to avoid exactly this. even for bitcoin, if you plan on arguing in front of a 'legacy' judge
decimation: http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1727 < I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding of the term 'real property' is that it only includes the land and immovable improvements
decimation: I think this might be a difference between common and continental law
mircea_popescu: that's why if i steal your house i am ordered to give you back ~your house~ but if i steal your bottle of beer i am ordered to pay you for a beer.
mircea_popescu: gifts are nice and good but for unperishables it is always a good idea to obtain a piece of paper too. any golddigger knows this.
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 16:17:10; asciilifeform: re: picasso article: i can easily imagine a 'Dark Future of Hello Kitty' (TM) where a plebe found with ten fifty is prosecuted because 'he could only have obtained them by stealing from j.p.morgan, stop telling lies, there's no other way'
mircea_popescu: gtfo, 300 pieces for under half a million on average ?
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 14:05:31; nubbins`: the only reason MP gets away with being a prick is because his articles are circuitous enough that it's not worth the effort to construct counter-arguments
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 09:18:50; trinque: I think we just solved it, representative democracy is a trauma I can no longer acknowledge exists
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron hey, mind writing a "for total noobs" guide for deedbot in the b-a wiki ?
funkenstein_: came with a free difficult to decipher t-shirt that says "entropy this ease freedom"
decimation: it's not strictly historical but the main author was a journalist who covered the baltimore police for a long time
decimation: cazalla: The Wire is a pretty good take on how life in the 'big city' works in the us - and its bureaucracy
jurov: haven't you just argued that for you, half a mil btc is equally as useless as that picasso?
asciilifeform: only buys you a ticket to the jail.
asciilifeform: but if you have a picasso - it is nothing without also having the blue blood.
asciilifeform: if you have half a mil btc, you actually have them
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 03:29:02; mircea_popescu: making money is a purely ~political~ function. if you are among the favoured elite of the respublica veneta, you then may invest in the ships, and make a profit. if not, not. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the picasso thing is a mega-l0l
asciilifeform: not nationalized as such (perhaps if it were confiscated to put in museum ?) but given to a designated darling of the state
asciilifeform: re: picasso article: i can easily imagine a 'Dark Future of Hello Kitty' (TM) where a plebe found with ten fifty is prosecuted because 'he could only have obtained them by stealing from j.p.morgan, stop telling lies, there's no other way' ☟︎
jurov: "It seems I must have liars and villains for opponents. I am not worthy in the sight of God that a godly and honorable person should discuss these matters with me in a Christian way. This is my greatest lament."
asciilifeform: nubbins`: though i also recall from his logs that a great many ran off cliffs also
nubbins`: if you want to see respectful reverence, stay at a resort
nubbins`: consider that "respectful reverence" (lel) is precisely a waste of time in such situations. if their first impression is that you're an asshole, why would they go further? almost certainly it's not worth the effort. save the smiles for the 200 other suckers who were on your plane, and who will gladly open the wallet
nubbins`: the only reason MP gets away with being a prick is because his articles are circuitous enough that it's not worth the effort to construct counter-arguments ☟︎
nubbins`: i dunno, man. this whole article gets a C-
nubbins`: "So that the locals here seemvii to have an unwarranted expectation of my generosity" <<< unwarranted how? every whitey that goes to jamaica spends a ton of money.
mats: fun fact: Chrome has an entire PDF serializer just for print preview - it creates a PDF of the page and then renders that in PDFium.
trinque: I think we just solved it, representative democracy is a trauma I can no longer acknowledge exists ☟︎
punkman: sounds like you need a safe space :P
fluffypony: trinque: obviously it's a good thing, it means more water, and since the advent of quality bottled water the consumption of water around the globe has increased
punkman: "after a while, she had to return to the safe space. “I was feeling bombarded by a lot of viewpoints that really go against my dearly and closely held beliefs,” "
trinque: later, teaching the controversy! is glacial melt a bad thing?
cazalla: punkman, agreed, i only watched a season or two of that before giving up.. same shit every episode
fluffypony: I keep meaning to give it a watch
cazalla: looks a bit like natalie portman
decimation: nevertheless, I'd have a beer with the guy :)
decimation: I think there were a few trilema posts on this point
felipelalli: trinque: not a real problem, I guess.
felipelalli: trinque: not a problem at all.
decimation: outflanking usg from the left is a common pattern worldwide
mircea_popescu: anyway, brazil's actually in a better position in sa than the us is in na.
decimation: well, the irony is that obama is a product of the other side
felipelalli: friend of a personal close friend.
felipelalli: BTCJam CEO is a Brazilian by the way
decimation: was it a march for equality