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trinque: ^ question marks in my term. zealotry!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wtf yet lol. there is no such time there weren't. AN END TO SLAVERY!
asciilifeform: trinque: there weren't any shitgnomes yet.
trinque: asciilifeform: if it had found its way into ansi, the shitgnomes would've demanded moar glyphs, and ended up in exactly the same place
mircea_popescu: such a texan this guy.
trinque: erlehmann: been treated amply in logs you haven't read
asciilifeform: i dun actually hate apl. it ain't chinese liquishit, is actually pretty small and readable alphabet. that probably oughta have occupied the upper half of ansi 8bit coding, instead of the rubbish that's in there nao.
asciilifeform: http://xahlee.info/comp/unicode_APL_symbols.html << it's in there, apparently.
trinque: I was relating the uniturd thread to $girl in the pool just now, and she challenged erlehmann to start writing software in emojis. and if not, why communicate with it.
mircea_popescu: space, in socialism, is worth ten thousand wars.
asciilifeform: and it ain't useless space, either, i like my current dig mainly for the enclosedbalcony. sunlight, it's a thing.
mircea_popescu: instead tell me you were there while it happened and didn't notice, and i shall believe it, but also point to it for your benefit.
asciilifeform: for the sake of space.
asciilifeform: and today asciilifeform spends manymanybux on... space.
mircea_popescu: now tell me they did not do this in berlin and i shall not believe you.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's grandfather indeed with own hands enclosed the balcony
mircea_popescu: the ~only thing all survivors of socialism agreed on, even the ones too dumb to live.
mircea_popescu: why ? because even in their sclerotic stupid fucking heads that should by rights have been taken off en masse at the very onset, the value of SPACE exceeded all other values.
mircea_popescu: just as soon as they managed to get a little capital, which is to say money not needed day to day, they stuck it in this deeply improductive activity. not went to istanbul to buy cheap colorful crap to resell, not anything else.
mircea_popescu: this is to say, standard soviet matchbox dwelling, like berlin is still full of, came from the maker with a "balcony", which was open to the outside. they -- paid, scions of the decrepit metalworking industry, to solder/weld/glue to the balustrades ugly scrap metal pikes and pipes, and in between them put glass.
mircea_popescu: you probably are familiar with, but anyway : they ~~~ENCLOSED THEIR BALCONIES~~~.
erlehmann: not in the mood for guessing history i'm not familiar with
mircea_popescu: no. wanna try more or satisfied ?
mircea_popescu: this is not so, but let us not diverge any more. what did the old people do, as their principal neo-society endeavour ?
erlehmann: large scale deployments are always driven by statistics. i once read that many stats have no bike helmet laws because lawmakers are convinced this would reduce biking to the point where more cardiovascular diseases outrun benefits of less head injuries.
mircea_popescu: process that produces antibiotics -> people needing to hold on to a tree while peeing.
mircea_popescu: note helmet works -- before the fact. it's not fucking antibiotics.
erlehmann: process that produces them → people die from head injuries?
mircea_popescu: alright, now to the question.
mircea_popescu: (helmets -- great. the process that normally produces them -- poison)
erlehmann: sounds like what a qualified cognitive-behavioural therapist would say indeed!
mircea_popescu: you won't get a bike helmet industry, which is a tolerable loss.
mircea_popescu: yes. if you permit the woman to act out her "worry" about "What may happen" you will sink. if you beat her black and blue every time she worries -- about anything, you'll suddenly get great parties.
mircea_popescu: do guess, you i hear are from the right germany to guess./
mircea_popescu: erlehmann let me tell you a story. after the fall of the romanian socialist republic, people were left with no practically useful skills and no capital. a mad rush to accumulate both ensued, which was subsidiarily great because it put young people above old people and as a result produced the only sort of society worthj living in -- with anxiety way way underregulated. now then -- what did the old people do, as their principa
erlehmann: no, just the hex file format
asciilifeform: and fuck the hieroglyphists with their own severed limbs.
asciilifeform: erlehmann: see the earlier thread /
erlehmann: asciilifeform what you think of unifont hex file format?
mircea_popescu: erlehmann and yet, funnily, everyone comes to make war in europe. and yet, funnilky enough, the byzantine empire still prays to their legions in heaven, notwithstanding the reality daily debunk
mircea_popescu: war makes the only thing peace never can, that is -- empty space. the value of empty space varies, from negative after a war to infinite during socialism. ☟︎
erlehmann: mircea_popescu it's only war in europe that is made less profitable. lots of wars to shop around for otherwhere.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann war IS more profitable than peace. whether you find this or not.
mircea_popescu: "make domestic arguments less profitable than watching tv". this isn't washing the dishes.
erlehmann: consider that idiots like hitler, napoleon etc. pp. found war more profitable than peace
mircea_popescu: this is simply a restatement of the foregoing idiocy.
erlehmann: i thought singular project is interconnection. make war less profitable than peace.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann security, yeah, that old "come be eaten by ants for you're too scared of hunting bear"
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean, because eu bureaucrats tolerate greek, eu is going to shit. i mean -- because eu has absolutely no project (which is the direct equivalent) everyone is only there while the food flows. and furthermore, because the men tolerate the misbehaviours of the women, the countries are dropping off thje map, and so on.
mircea_popescu: and is going to shit. BECAUSE of it. not simply "in the time of it", but BECAUSE of it.
erlehmann: just pay your taxes and you'll be spared from war or worse!
erlehmann: mircea_popescu empire does not pretend equality, but tolerance it has. EU has 23 official languages AFAIK.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann but that's prtecisely what tolerance is. an ill designed attempt to swallow.
BingoBoingo: <erlehmann> i think it is not about the literature. i think it is to cater to the special interest groups. << Maybe these groups need specialler interests?
mircea_popescu: there shall be no equality, and there shall be no tolerance. black man either dresses like white man or picks cotton.
erlehmann: to me that is not tolerance, but annexation
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 16:51 erlehmann: can it be that your complaint is more with the egyptian glyphs than with unicode itself?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684303 << the complaint is about the concept of tolerance, equality and so on. ☝︎
erlehmann: i think it is not about the literature. i think it is to cater to the special interest groups.
mircea_popescu: we are the never goes camp.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 16:50 erlehmann: okay, but most of it. a special interest group (egyptologican geeks) used a glyph standard. unicode swallowed that standard. this is how it usually goes.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684298 << yes, this is how socialism always goes. not how "it" "usually" goes. when the socialists are involved -- always goes. when they are not -- never goes. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "oh but all teh great literature shall be lost" hurr durr. egyptian had just as great literature. JUST as great. its loss was thought important for centuries, before drunk soldiers broke the code and it was discovered -- egyptian literature is barely fit to grace toilet paper.
mircea_popescu: look at bureaucrat wank, it's directly translatable to word table.
mircea_popescu: they're glacially going that way.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 16:57 asciilifeform: if i start writing english as strings of 16-bit indices into the oxford dictionary, people will laugh.
asciilifeform: i'm a bit surprised that pantsuits have not yet attempted to transform english into 'wordicode', a la http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684311 . ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing a sorting here. i am just proposing they notice the parts of their skull made of cow dung.
BingoBoingo: <erlehmann> asciilifeform ok enjoy your latin1 while it lasts. << 卍 We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children 卍
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but we DO know mine still permits the use of language.
mircea_popescu: coming to that minimal point of self-awareness any bimbo with half a peanut in her skull manages in fact to come to, where she realises it's not the fucking squiglies painted on her nails that make her unique.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684289 LEARNING A LANGUAGE. accepting that chinese is not a language ; accepting in order to accept that the simple annd obvious fact thjat your mother and father, if you're chinese, were FOR THAT REASON idiots and imbeciles ; and for the reason also that their parenjts in their turn -- idiots and imbeciles. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: there is NO REASON to continue the nonsense. learn a language.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 16:40 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684006 << via this, found >> http://unifoundry.com/pub/unifont-10.0.05/unifont-10.0.05.bmp << which is lulzy, weep at the sheer bulk of the orc hieroglyph liquishit
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684284 << dude LOOK AT THAT BULSHIT. fucking azns already. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 15:29 asciilifeform: sec. for mod6's thing, approx.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684252 << funny, i was expecting a few hours. apparently guessatron not that badly oiled either. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: visa could totally buy russia, if russia were dumb enough.
mircea_popescu: o things this way rather than that...
mircea_popescu: notice how this works : visa is sending "up to $10k in bitcoin" to its own bitcoin addresses to claim "people" have "invested" in whatever nutty bullshit faux coin they have going ; visa is sending "up to 10k" faux news on dead paper to its own offices to claim someone actually gives a shit what the new york times says on any topic ; visa is then giving 10k in cash to 50 of its own merchants to pretend like you and i should d
asciilifeform: exercise for reader : write equation to predict, within 1 minute, how long N! takes on your box in ffa
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 15:09 asciilifeform: meanwhile!, in sunny monkeylandia, https://archive.is/a3GZE >> 'Visa... offering up to $10,000 each to 50 U.S.-based small business owners that are committed to going cashless... "We are declaring war on cash," said Andy Gerlt, a spokesman for Visa.'
mircea_popescu: he could as well be their fucking patron saint, the party of vaux. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: etually tried to control all aspects of government.
mircea_popescu: and yes, brougham is a monument of socialist retardation. devout abolitionist (which, incidentally, is coming together in my mind as the spot where western civilisation actually went off-course, early 1800s), argued with young re wave form of light, argued with some statistician re solar spots impact on wheat prices, tellingly thought everyone else unscientific and by comparison to his bright mind very stupid indeed and perp
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 14:24 asciilifeform: !~later tell mod6 1.326 + log2(N)/2 + (log2(N) - 1.443)*N gives bitlength of N! to 1% or so.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684202 << ah good, i was just digging this up. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not for a purpose but because it's there.
asciilifeform: it doesn't relieve of the burden of having to actually prove correctness tho.
asciilifeform: ( to the extent such a thing is to be demonstrated experimentally. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: another fine experiment is to do 9000 mults of B-bit rngolade. demonstrates that the payload really has 0 impact on time.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the army, http://68.media.tumblr.com/900d9a19e3797d8e49d3cae388b0ce63/tumblr_o7m7l34i1B1vv8p8co1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: again, no argument. T needs to be measured, factorial is a fine case to measure it in, we don't resort to the lab when we wish to prove theory wrong but in all cases and at all times because we like the lab.
asciilifeform: sorta why the thing even exists.
asciilifeform: 1 ffa mult for B-bit regs take time T. 9000 of them take time 9000T. guaranteed.
asciilifeform: ( see further in same thread )
mircea_popescu: no argument. but i am a practical man and i like plugging things in.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the difficulty is in predicting how long ops take on heathentron, not on ffa ( which is deadly linear for all ops )
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 12:45 asciilifeform: while we're on subj, ffa is more or less guaranteed to lose to just about any heathen bignumtron in factorial speed, and it should not be hard to see why.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684189 << tis nevertheless important to see how much. ☝︎