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snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 19:59:45 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936229 << lol, the dude's 40 something, not 80. and yet, a-fucking-men.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936305 << in my defense, i spent my 20s (in consensus with the peers of the time and place) that i ain't making no 30.
diana_coman: I'll chew on that some more (and maybe I won't want to strangle hope all that much anymore).
mircea_popescu: and let me say that i really enjoy the sort of problems i am having these days.
mircea_popescu: then the stupid cunts "became nonviolent" and it all went straight to hell.)
mircea_popescu: (this being, contrary to ulterior protestant misrepresentations, the only meaning of taxation in middle ages : "produce some normal heatlhy unsick unfucked in the head humans!!! we're going to france!!!"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 19:49:08 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936099 << couldn't be more behind this. if nothing else, you learn whether anyone else has gravity worth a sparrow's fart.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936289 << not to mention create sane basis for taxation! "you are to produce one lordable knight by next year!"
mircea_popescu: hence my example with the "booting" knife that runs a .jar to ask you via gui "which side should be sharp this session"
mircea_popescu: with the mental energy thus freed, they'd prolly burn the shit down.
mircea_popescu: all of inca exists because of the false decision slot "between" coke and pepsi, dominos and pizza hut etc. the only way to fix the current us is forbid this false choice, force them to receive randomly items in the respective undiferentiable classes.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 19:50:55 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936114 << I'm thinking let the owner of chan set his/her threshold of voice, whatcha think?
mircea_popescu: not because it'd be hard to implement, but because it creates a "decision slot" in the minds where there needn't be one.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936293 << i have no firm idea as of yet ; but i'm inclined to think it'd be too many moving parts, and deleterious thereby.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 19:47:03 trinque: I'm a sick troll in the household.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936287 << hey, me too!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 19:45:42 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936059 << the curious thing to the squishy humans is how this man is mathematical instead.
mircea_popescu: it's literally a collage, i cut up the "secret" court filings produced by "secret" services for its material.
mircea_popescu: did anyone else ever write a play like that ?
mircea_popescu: was part and parcel of ye epic http://trilema.com/2012/sorana-comedie-bufa-intr-un-act/ (the title says "Sorana, funny comedy in one act". unique as far as i know among all literary productions for the stage to date, this play is written ~entirely~ out of material illegally intercepted by romania's chapter of usg.blue, and doled out in court without any kind of supervision)
mircea_popescu: for historical lulz : /me actually put the kaibosh on a romanian wanna-be news outlet back in the day for exactly this sorta misbehaviour.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 19:05:19 asciilifeform: 'Motherboard has obtained a copy of the email thread, but has censored the names of its participants besides Stallman. ' << bonus lulz
mircea_popescu: then a minute later, loads again. and will be fine again for however long, an hour or a day, but then again, taskes a minute off.
diana_coman: so then, if spammers come spamming, I'll have to man the walls or something, more fun to be had.
mircea_popescu: i don't instantly see the benefit of an alternative. some things do not benefit from alternative, eg a knife which first has you "select which side to be sharp" is a worse knife that is sharp on one side.
diana_coman: I can see also why make it 9 only and that's that if the model is either "everyone can speak" or "only peers can speak"
diana_coman: oh boy, "concerned parents" and tzatzele la poarta what next
mircea_popescu: suppose in ten years you're actually running uk's main college. #o will now be open to all "concerned parents" ?
mircea_popescu: conceivably you might want it because your castle's so immense, you can't take the whole firehose.
mircea_popescu: how the hell do i know what you want.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: no, not at all; but why would I want *only knights* to be able to talk there?
mircea_popescu: in extremis yes you could promote a knight or two in that role, if you wish ; but if not, and you want to implement the trilema style voice model instead : why do you want ratings other than 9 to be voiced ?
diana_coman: and wtf am I going to do, police it?
mircea_popescu: i think this last bit is kinda stupid, tbh.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: even if/when I must introduce it because possibly some disgruntled good for nothings have nothing better to do than to spam
mircea_popescu: or is the idea that you'd like to have the voice model more flexible, so when a castle owner is specified for a new castle, deedbot also takes specification of voice threshold ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: re logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1002089 - I still see the point for *different* thresholds in different places; ie 9 is peer everywhere but in #t it's only peers that may speak while in #o it's everyone who didn't get thrown out.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 18:16:33 BingoBoingo: Tanks https://i.imgur.com/lZPZUtw.jpg << Do not appear to be a match for Uruguay's actual tanks
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936270 <<< nfi why they didn't simply lease the local army's materiel for a week. looks way the fuck better, defo cheaper than that dumb shit...
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 17:58:07 BingoBoingo: In local news: Uruguayos stripped down and humiliated in the Plaza Independencia https://i.redd.it/dsjaoraybmm31.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936265 << why the fuck is it mostly young dudes tho.
diana_coman: !!key thimbronion
diana_coman: no idea really but iirc there was a thimbronion around here or such
mircea_popescu: http://thimbron.com/2019/09/julian-jaynes/?b=Ando&e=#select << what's this then ?
lobbes: I managed to pay for my first two years (via the much cheaper 'community college' option) with pure cash from my saving from working at the grocery store. The final two years (at the more expensive state school) are what killed me. And I mentally checked out around 6th grade, so my GPA was laughable (literally was in the 2.3 range I think); no scholarships for me.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 15:45:52 lobbes: hrm, though I just thought of another rub: my mom actually cosigned my student loans. Which means if I default they will come after her for the money. Those damn octopus arms are everywhere
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 23:17:48 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936245 << heh, my parents had the good sense to shove me out the airlock re: student debt. So I had the good sense to not take any.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936308 << If I may ask, how did you pay for it then? Were you one of those students who actually learned things and thus got good grades (i.e. could qualify for scholarships)?
lobbes: Plus I still have the various TMSR infrastructure that I pay for (my VPSen, my dedicated server), and prolly something else I'm forgetting. Still looking like the best way to cut this knot is via the remote work option (i.e. I'll need monthly income of some kind). But the beauty seems to be I can take a massive pay cut from what I make now, since my cost of living should be much lower in South America.
lobbes: I'm probably the only one who hasn't, and I'd like to keep it that way (and while *I* grok that it is really the state that is the enemy here, she wouldn't necessarily). I'd like to let her die thinking *someone* gives a shit about her.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 20:09:08 mircea_popescu: (you may think she has home equity or w/e, but in practice see the medicare threads, it's on loan)
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936262 << sure, but the point is I gave my word back 2006 to *her* that if she cosigned I wouldn't default. Maybe I'm foolish but I like to keep my word. Plus, virtually everyone else in my family has backstabbed her / cheated her to some degree, to which she never became bitter about, but instead just put them out of her life and kept on working
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 07:30:39 mircea_popescu: that scary moment when one notices the TWO most recent items in trilema comments queue are trackbacks from other people's blogs.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936119 << heh, I hope I didn't overdo it with my last article (I think it included some three trackbacks to trilema)
trinque: but don't take me as presuming to speak for anyone.
trinque: would've saved mircea_popescu years of trilema if the ideal state were "and then I think for all of you for the rest of time"
lobbes: ah okay. this makes sense. let the wot drive distinction between monkey-castle and actual-castle
trinque: I'm inclined to let whomever register w/e channel with deedbot, set their threshold for plebvoice, and let the wot work.
trinque: and the whole point of social topology that isn't dot and flat line below, is that "maybe >0!"
trinque: what do I care if you talk to them. probably zero, maybe >0!
lobbes: hm, yeah I guess this makes sense. Sort of a "cross that bridge when come to it" type of deal
trinque: http://wot.deedbot.org/ << the one-eyed creature needs moar eyeballs
trinque: you have your relationships, whatever they are, and you're peered into whomever else.
trinque: I dunno that castlehood or w/e is the "and now you can have a deedbot" line
lobbes: with that, time to dig into mysql database slaving capabilities
lobbes: In any case, I'll just give it some time.
lobbes: Of course I'm already regretting that resignation thinking I did that with my classic 'jumpy reasoning'; I think what I really needed was clarity, which comes from communication, which has been working pretty well so far.
lobbes is currently not sure if should apply for official castlehood, on grounds that a) castle is currently deserted and b) technically I resigned from lordship about a month ago
trinque: can the lords and ladies let me know if they're interested in such a thing, and if so I'll get cracking.
trinque: on the subj of multi-channel deedbot, that already exists. I need to tweak the wot/voicing code a bit to support, but otherwise not so hard.
asciilifeform: trinque: in theory , the long-sought 'pure gcc4 bringup' set could be in there.
trinque: I've got terbytes free down in uy tho
trinque: will tell ya when done
trinque: it'd be nice to be able to turn up continuity with historic gentoo tree
trinque: incidentally slurpin down that whole bbgentoo.ilb.ru
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: cost of renting tools there is such that makes moar sense to buy, if anyffin smaller than bulldozer, normally
asciilifeform: somewhat oddly, perhaps, vs traditional comp-building culture , mechanical strength is needed, the crates are abused rather heavily by the porters ( last time BingoBoingo and asciilifeform had to straighten the 'ears' with hammers )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: IIrc the Home Despot rents MIG welders
asciilifeform: trinque: see, stock chasses are usually ~1mm mild steel. which welds ok w/ ordinary 1940s electrode style. but was thinking, for next batch, aluminum, lighter crate -> moar boxen
asciilifeform: ah, i was pretty certain that someone mentioned doing it, and was trinque . maybe that someone writes in.
trinque: I don't know if it would surprise anyone here, but they do a better job!
trinque: and doing fine. just got in from my dentist's office in the mexican hood.
asciilifeform: modern-day builders all seem to think can't be done except under noble gas
asciilifeform: btw trinque ( and possibly BingoBoingo ) : what's the barest starvation tooling with which weld aluminum ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 19:03:20 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in lulz BingoBoingo might appreciate, asciilifeform was clearing , i shit thee not, jungle, w/ machete
asciilifeform: trinque: and earlier, assembling some machine tools for piz chassis munging
asciilifeform: ohai trinque , wb
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 15:45:52 lobbes: hrm, though I just thought of another rub: my mom actually cosigned my student loans. Which means if I default they will come after her for the money. Those damn octopus arms are everywhere
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936245 << heh, my parents had the good sense to shove me out the airlock re: student debt. So I had the good sense to not take any.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 07:57:52 diana_coman: fwiw I always end up scratching my head at this "mircea_popescu won't help" because I haven't seen more people that are more helpful than mircea_popescu ; the only way that "won't help" makes sense to me is if it's fully qualified as in "won't help your stupidity"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 14:52:11 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936160 << verily. Furthermore, the inescapable truth is that one day mircea_popescu will shuffle off this mortal coil. Why anyone would not want to eat as much of his brain while he is around is completely unfathomable to me, especially since he is willingly offering it to eat! The Republic will one day need to stand on its own feet and produce
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936229 << lol, the dude's 40 something, not 80. and yet, a-fucking-men.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 12:27:44 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936099 << this also imho good idea. tho afaik none of the other castles carry enuff load yet to make voicetronic model appealing there
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936203 << I intend to badger you about hardware p until silenced by brick wall. what load now?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 07:33:25 ave1: So I'm working on genesis of gcc and the second test build is running. First failed, I expect some more failures before done.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 04:08:46 dorion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934639 << I came across http://bbgentoo.ilb.ru/ , which appears to do a decent job of preserving distfiles. e.g. has nearly entire php-4.x series, except ~actual weightlifter~. even has php 2 and 3 tarballs. there is also what appears to be a portage tree dated 2011-01-31. I downloaded, but haven't yet cracked it open.
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935524 << sure in theory; what do you know about ilb.ru that makes it distinguishable from when I made the snapshot?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 05:10:06 mircea_popescu: also, comparison with iliterate peasant / highwaty robber's bound to break down at SOME fucking point.
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936168 << I've been long curious when. If mp wanted to be Stalin, he'd already be, or so the derp texan's opinion goes.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:15:00 diana_coman: if you say it's not any and all to talk, the q is : who to talk?