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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686176 << why would they want to go back?! eager to get back into debt peonage?? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 20:00 floog: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685787 <<< blue book is going to take 3 weeks to ship. any tips of what to read up on/learn in the meantime?
mircea_popescu: by the time they';re going to jail everyone is anyway, so, they are correctly judging -- better hang for the sheep along with the calf, we're all dead men anyway.
mircea_popescu: and why not. if it works it works so they get a little more juice, and if it doesn't work... not like anyone's going to jail.
shinohai: The same lie Bruce Fenton tried to sell when attempting to resurrect it
mircea_popescu: but thart's ok, as they actually breed the requisite sort of idiot themselves.
mircea_popescu: this is how teh usg does things, and always has. it takes a special sort of idiot to actually buy into their web of nonsense
mircea_popescu: that vesseness could run his scam foundation a little longer by pretending to take donations "for paying gavin's salary" was simply an expedient cover-up. gavin was getting a nsa salary anyway. to pretend like "btc donations" from suckers paid for it was cheap enough a cover-up.
mircea_popescu: all the usg experts, from gavin down, were from the get-go paid in fiat to see what they can do to further fiat interest in the republic ; no more.
mircea_popescu: stop talking about it ? won't happen. stop being meaningfully involved ? they never were. which of 0, infinity was your notion ?
user705: if ever there was a great price entry point is when people like them quit BTC
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the official slack hangout, http://68.media.tumblr.com/6ddc1031c2446d6b41f3a22987808a4c/tumblr_ofd3wt0Rfy1u9uov7o1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: user705 inasmuch as it's not an idea, yeah. they all have the same ideas, being the same item.
trinque: must be wisdom of the crowd or something
trinque: user705: weird how different people all seem to push in the same direction eh?
mircea_popescu: hey, ustards perceive "they got names", and gotta burn 'em to cash in. it's the way of progress!
shinohai: Seems zooko also started a new scam coin ... Imma hafta come out of retirement for these lulz
user705: oh mike hearn had that bright idea a while ago
shinohai: How long befire the BTC phork crowd says "WE SHOULD TOTALLY DO THIS!!!!!"
shinohai: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFCRY6xXUAAjbco.jpg "Invalidating idle private keys to force them to upgrade" ☟︎
shinohai: Sure, the foundation has trb.exe available on website
lobbes: Then I started reading the "trolls", then finally was lead here (I think it was pankkake that tipped me off). Then, it hit me like a "shit-ton of bricks (tm)": I'm retarded! The herd is retarded! I better stop, listen, learn from these evidently superior beings before I'm toast.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 19:29 trinque: asciilifeform: insufficent forebrain to override hindbrain's itch for instant gratification
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686119 << This was exactly my case. I have same appreciation towards folx here as ag3nt_zer0. I bought first btc at $20 for purposes of silk road back in early 2014. Price quickly shot up. Found tardstalk 'securities'. I thought "Wow, pretty graphs and charts. Lemme try and catch the next boat11!" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: can you compile c on the not linux ?
user705: is there a way to do a trb node not on Linux? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trinque that perverse state is called borderline personality disorder ; aka wrist sleeves. they generally end up playing enabler to all sorta nutty males.
mircea_popescu: get a fg, run tests on it, report results, what have you.
mircea_popescu: the log is full of stuff to do.
mircea_popescu: or stand up a log bot, or whatever. run a trb node. run the ada implementation passed around recently of a big number calculator and produce 655356! to compare with the given values.
mircea_popescu: which is hysterical on its face. you... had to leave... because... it ... didn't suck ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform trip does not cure ; know plenty of girlies who studied "criminalisticologies" in us, came back laden with debt, trying to GET BACK. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: floog you saw the topic ?
mircea_popescu: hormel prolly status symbol. i have record of "eating at mcdo every sunday" being top of list of old woman trying to sell convenience marriagfe to her poetic daughter.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-17 23:44 mircea_popescu: you know, if it seems a good next step then it likely is.
floog: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685787 <<< blue book is going to take 3 weeks to ship. any tips of what to read up on/learn in the meantime? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i believe it's beause they very literallty and genuinely think the us crap is good.
trinque: now there's a perverse state in which to be trapped; relying on the other's insanity to preserve the delusion of one's own sanity.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of naught in particular, isn't it shocking there's no pornstar named "natasha kinksky" ?
trinque: possibly not. perhaps the monkeybrain prefers insane authority to none.
asciilifeform: ( actually taking a trip to usa is a ~guaranteed cure )
asciilifeform: though i'd imagine their population would be thinning by nao
trinque: has to be.
asciilifeform: folx who grew up on 'vhs tape usa' then
trinque: asciilifeform: no, lol, it was not american expats at the San Jose mcdonalds.
asciilifeform: sad to say, i bet the spam ~moves~
asciilifeform: is it because of escapees from usa among the buyers ?
mircea_popescu: o yeah, for some reason they think us stuff is great. my elite grocer, that stocks everything including fine french wines ? they think HORMEL is the best brand of cured meats.
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: for instance, I may have traded my coins for doge or whateva
asciilifeform: i suspect that moar folx in usa know how to fly plane, than to ride horse
shinohai: ag3nt_zer0: One needs to keep the antenna locked to receive the clear signal!
trinque: mircea_popescu: I did see a rather long line at the McD's in San Jose when there
a111: Logged on 2017-05-15 15:38 mircea_popescu: there is no possiblity of meaning outside of a structure of authority, and the authority can not be predicated on the meaning.
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform... I just mean there is a lot of noise and this place seems to be the clear signal... and I say "seems" simply because I don't understand it as well as I would need to dispose of that qualifier
mircea_popescu: it must be from a time before, i've nothing else.
mircea_popescu: see, cuz if they looked like "u of maryland goes on horseback", half the schmucks seated backwards or whatnot, then it'd make sense. but how did these people manage to acquire riding skills with the constant tapdistraction ?
mircea_popescu: but the truly mindboggling thing, to me, was that they were all fine riders. somehow. i do not know how. feet correctly in the saddle, not one, all, the men, children, women, etc. proper grips on at least half the reins. and so on.
mircea_popescu: and in general you know, "i'm not interested in LOOKING at the horses, but where could i snap a selfie from ?"
trinque: ah lol, too bad
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform notrly. horse is very loving, welcoming, girlfriend like animal. it's going to help you in whatever way it can / you need.
mircea_popescu: this with the horse underneath! which you know, needs your attention.
mircea_popescu: yep, you guessed it, at least a quarter of the riders were taping away at any point.
mircea_popescu: trinque hey, you have no idea. so sunday was large celebration, including parade with literal 1k horses. the people ON the horses ?
trinque: well not mircea_popescu, but asciilifeform passes them
trinque: every idiot you pass on teh street glued to the glass rectangle is doing this. "omg, I exist, look there are notifications on the rectangle for 'me'"
mircea_popescu: i do not think so. these schmucks never had any money, they're the poor generation. their parents, yes, but these are the djb street urchins not the djbs.
asciilifeform: i thought it was from old fiatola habit ('spend it nao or it evaporates anyway')
mircea_popescu: it's a strange perversion of capitalism (whereby if it's not useful it's not worth jack) into displayism (whereby if it's not being seen it's not worth having). so you gotta... DO things with your bitcoin for your bitcoin to exist (not individually, but categorically -- a store of value "does not exist" in this addled worldview.)
mircea_popescu: so now -- why owning a ferrari is nothing, unles you can DO things with it, such as ride it around a clump of "your friends" ?
mircea_popescu: to which the only correct answer is the obvious, "of course he did lol"
mircea_popescu: "maybe mp paid everyuone around me to tell me they'd be all impressed if i married the hairbrush???"
mircea_popescu: not simply because it empowers rapist-racist-pre-trump-trump-me, annoying as that may be ; but because it puts in question the integrity of their valuation mechanism.
mircea_popescu: which is why when i showed something awful the "here, you can pay people to do things to themselves" it BURNEDDDDDDD
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform elstards are educated from birth to value things only by reference to the herd. it is not important for them to have a great fucktoy at home ; but it is very important for them to take home the girl all the other dorks imagine would be a great accomplishment to take home.
trinque: asciilifeform: insufficent forebrain to override hindbrain's itch for instant gratification ☟︎
floog: i converted my btc to ltc until post-aug1
asciilifeform: from where comes the 'who knows what I would be doing with my coins right now' ?
asciilifeform: why is it that the early bitcoin folx had this 'burning hole in pocket' problem
asciilifeform: i actually never understood this, even before encountering mircea_popescu et al :
ag3nt_zer0: all I can say is thank god I found this sanctuary of the guardians heh... otherwise who knows what I would be doing with my coins right now...
ag3nt_zer0: yes I am trying to get out by tomorrow asciilifeform
asciilifeform: just say no to goxes.
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: don't be surprised, if waiting for aug1 or whatever 'wediditreddit event' to get your coin out of a gox, if they only offer to give it back in shitcoin ( or not at all )
ag3nt_zer0: ok thank you all kindly for the responses
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anything takes ssd, i have msdos boxes with ssd...
shinohai: (Especially now there is importprivkey function)
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 if it doesn't take a ssd, prolly not useful for bitcoin node. otherwise i vaguely recall ppl trying the raspberry pi and blockverification taking too long
ag3nt_zer0: trinque no just worried about getting them out at august first ☟︎
trinque: "I want to plan for my future, as expediently as possible." ?
shinohai: Generating keypairs, etc on trb node has worked reliably for me 100% of time since inception
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: really ought to keep up with the logs instead of doing these drive-bys
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu... yes I need to do this... is it more expedient for a newb like me to attempt this on my old G5 or should I try it on another rasbpi?
mircea_popescu: if this is too inconvenient/complicated/expensiuve whatever, sell your bitcoin, now, and put the fiat in a fiat bank.
ag3nt_zer0: trinque it was just !!v instead of the old !v
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 you are to assume that no "generated" key is legitimate or will work reliably at any point.
mircea_popescu: so you know, run a proper node, make a new address there, send whatever coinbase/bitaddress/whatever held funds to it and be done.
ag3nt_zer0: but am i just to assume that ANY key generated is legitimate and will work when time comes?
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 the point of a private key is that only you know it.
ag3nt_zer0: will display the correspnding pubkey... if it did this and everything matched can I take this as absolute that I am controlling and privkey will work when I want to send in 10 years?
ag3nt_zer0: might anyone help me with this question? I created a paper wallet using bitaddress.org transferred to little airgapped raspberry pi... not wanting to print on my wifi capable printer, I chose to write down the numbers. Now I am wanting to get my coins the hell off coinbase before the nonsense and am concerned that my private key is legit. so, I learned that I could go back on bitaddress.org, offline of course, and click "wallet de