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mircea_popescu: they will complain to me about republican ux and to the inca about the poverty of the bribes.
mircea_popescu: inca has his rock to carry, let inca carry it.
asciilifeform: or what was it , 'was given a mere merc 600 to drive'
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 02:45 asciilifeform: the forced dependency -- grates. the detail that it is forced by the sufferer's own inadequacy is never interesting to him
asciilifeform: indulge me, Cory , say in what is the thrill.
asciilifeform: given that there are logs.
asciilifeform: i've always wanted to ask the lurkers, why they lurk
asciilifeform: ... the connects and disconnects? 'cause everything else, you can read in the logz
asciilifeform: ( the ones to whom it was interesting - ate nagant and you won't meet'em )
asciilifeform: the forced dependency -- grates. the detail that it is forced by the sufferer's own inadequacy is never interesting to him ☟︎
asciilifeform: few thing folx hate moar than the liquishit they ~rely~ on as sole sustenance
mircea_popescu: but he DISAPPROVES see. of things, specific.
mircea_popescu: generally, the cab's "rolled eyes" is almost never in the form of "great american novel". he'll disapprove loudly of the whores, for instance, even as he depends on them for his only sexual outlet.
mircea_popescu: possibly the most visible and best documented case of a sybiling in nature.
mircea_popescu: the 2nd generation did not care for this, and so literally sybilled the old shcmucks (luciano and gang, infiltrated all the orgs, and ~randomly picked a boss to kill first while feigning loyalty to the other)
asciilifeform: relatedly to 'kinder than they were', ever read short by jack london 'the chinago' ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, mob history is very apropos. so -- originally, hard set loser elements of the sicilian caudillo class moved over, and aimed to maintain in the new place the old place. this did not work irl, because they were small portion of the new place (worked fine in argentina later).
asciilifeform: do they reveal 'i'ma write great poems any day nao!1!' ?
mircea_popescu talks to lots of cabbies.
asciilifeform: my telepathy-fu is is not up to the job of saying what was in the heads of the silent cabbies. so i'll take mircea_popescu's word.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's "silently" in that they can't be arsed to communicate the spinning any longer. not in the sense it's not there.
asciilifeform: ( they also collected sad welfare cheques and sat on brighton beach, but these mostly collected by the reaper by nao )
mircea_popescu: hardly. none of these have a plain and simple nigger's "I never injured any of those women," reflected I, with meek resignation: "but God will be kinder to me and to my errors than they are!" conviction.
asciilifeform: silently, for the most part.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik 'ironic detachment' is a young cock thing. old folx just cab.
mircea_popescu: if i were one of them i'd also run a cab.
mircea_popescu: because it's very convenient, a cab, for their purpose. it allows the "ironic detachment" with still a modicum of interaction present.
mircea_popescu: right. so no, not actually tried ; and yes, married cab.
asciilifeform: iirc we recently had the 'sausage emigres' thread. most of the folx were really 'running from own stupid self' and this is not mega-seekrit.
mircea_popescu: well now there is.
asciilifeform: if that's failure, what's success
mircea_popescu: hey, i give you the one success in the whole "jewish mafia" troop to make the point -- actually tried. one did ring it ; most didn't. but all tried.
asciilifeform: waitasec, in what sense lansky 'failure' ? the hollywood racket boss ?
mircea_popescu: THAT was failed shot at brass ring. those people -- actually tried.
asciilifeform: 'officeplankton', term of art in ru sphere
mircea_popescu: there was jewish imigration into the us before ; you know them by name, like you know, murder inc.
mircea_popescu: because nothing can beat the sugar of self delusion in those so inhabituated ; much like there's no dating in the future of Masturbation S Elliot.
asciilifeform: nobody sets out to cab
asciilifeform: failed shot at the brass ring neh
mircea_popescu: why be a professor and actually a good one and then suddenly marry a cab ?
asciilifeform: yeah but why be a pirate and presumably a good one and then suddenly marryjesus.
mircea_popescu: people who overperceive themselves always desert no matter how fed ; and people who don't overperceive themselves never do, also no matter how fed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from experience, feeding has nothing to do. it's just a function of vanity and nothing else.
mircea_popescu: and the incontrovertible truth of the matter is that you can ALWAYS desert into fantasyworld. "marry jesus" rather than the extant boys.
mircea_popescu: end of ru 90s was strictly desertion into perelman fantasyworld by the foot soldier. much like end of europe 1700s was -- desertion into socialist fantasyworld by foot soldier.
asciilifeform: 'end of ru 90s' is sometimes presented as 'low hanging loot ran out'. tru or not ?
mircea_popescu: ro chicks were, pointedly, ashamed of being seen, ever, with their mothers.
mircea_popescu: eg it's quite plainly to see argentina will go straight to shit : 16yo there is following her mom around, rather than being ashamed of being seen with her.
mircea_popescu: it's not "most eager whores". it's whether 15 yo is "i will burn down the fucking house while you sleep rather than not follow these guys".
mircea_popescu: it ends, in the sense that you either have the critical mass of organised youth raping and pillaging, or you do not. and the drag force of whether young cunts (and no, boys aren't anything but young cunts ftr) do perceive they're alive and do follow sense ; or imagine themselves dead and hang out with the stupid old women makes a difference irl.
asciilifeform: ( lulzily i saw 'youtube' not long ago and got the 'recommended' film 'how to try to float with cement boots' ... )
asciilifeform: dunno that it ever really 'ends' , some background trickle of folx needin' affixin' to inside of new cement, get so affixed, in all times, neh
mircea_popescu: this isn't the criteria per se.
asciilifeform: ( wai mircea_popescu not there, i wondered )
mircea_popescu: and they existed very much because ro girls, unlike russki stupid cunts, did NOT perceive themselves at some kind of liberty to not whore up for the gangster class. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: those were the best times.
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you something else : it lasted a lot longer in ro. cca 2004. and in that half decade, we burned and permanently affixed to inside of architecture A LOT of those same ugly faces that were all "oh, it went away in russia, only matter of time". if you've seen miller's crossing (you should) the stereotypical objectionable faggot's desperation at the end (but there's no angle!! look into your heart!!!) is very much descr
asciilifeform: ( he dun need a vicarious smell of the '90s, for instance, he lived'em )
asciilifeform: e.g. mircea_popescu to share
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 01:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687945 << the problem is that the russian intellectual pose is very irritating to me. the whole fucking text exists so that the author can "roll his eyes" however you say that in russian, aka to bake in somehow unobservedly the proposition the speaker and all those like him aren't horse's asses. it doesn't amuse me in 16yo usian chicks ; let alone in 36 yo russian doods.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687972 << this is utterly and completely so, and is the reason i was never able to stomach most of p's worx. but a few of them i found entertaining for somewhat perverse thematic reason that i would not expect, elg ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 21:29 asciilifeform: 'whatever' is only ever uttered by folx who don't have to lift a finger.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687838 << riddle me this. when $nobody pops in and asks a question, do you answer on the basis of the present (ie, the question wasn't fucktarded) or do you answer on the basis of some sort of judgement that the dude behind the nick is going to i dunno, stick around and then lend you a pack of ciggs in april 2021 ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sad thing is, these weren't the honestly, organically retarded, but the mendacious and complicit sort
mircea_popescu: (and yes, before you ask, this DOES work. to the sort of derp discussed above, the one with "options" he hallucinated)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the faux news copy depts are in the business of "thinking" carbonated sugar is EXCITING
mircea_popescu: the fix going in is always bad for the cabaret act.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo well, he was rich and where's teh babes!!11 rite ? << lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the idjit av 'press' did
mircea_popescu: i dunno who holds the notion it isn't ? afaik ~consensus, boring.
asciilifeform: usg's shit, contrary to popular delusion, is deadly boring
asciilifeform: but could count these on 1 hand fingers
asciilifeform: ( iirc we had thread, where described this )
asciilifeform: interestingly, when asciilifeform worked as a pro collector and reverser of virii - found, to great sadness, that the 'art' mostly died.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well, he was rich and where's teh babes!!11 rite ?
mircea_popescu: sanity is only a novel item to the sort of people who autosnap to random nonsense. no, it's not novel, it's sanity.
asciilifeform: i thought we were contemplating something novel tho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're already doing it, neh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so let folks do it for whatever reason they do it.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> gotta wonder what was the thought process. 'i'ma pay for dope with shitpal just this ONCE' ?? << Nah, he wanted to be Alpha and bought GOLD MEMBERSHIP to forum linked to Return of Kinks
mircea_popescu: nothing else has any bearing on it. if the computer you own happens to be a laptop and it happens to be the third week thieves broke into your car and stole your laptop, this makes absolutely no difference re "own computer--clean and install". you might park your car some other place, but you won't change what's done to owned computer.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B194524425A0C7D4B8E776FEFFD3C76B0DA95D29D98FC1A3BDECEAD1AD54F169 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1553...6617 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '186.232.26.166 (ssh-rsa key from 186.232.26.166 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (186.232.26.166.vitalnetprovedor.com.br. BR MG)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B194524425A0C7D4B8E776FEFFD3C76B0DA95D29D98FC1A3BDECEAD1AD54F169 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1735...2813 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '186.232.26.166 (ssh-rsa key from 186.232.26.166 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (186.232.26.166.vitalnetprovedor.com.br. BR MG)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F92A17F4E8024732CEFD26BCDEF00A638E63BE3D6A133D8C86A963BA62704EC6 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1735...2813 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '189.114.64.74 (ssh-rsa key from 189.114.64.74 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (server.scalabrini.com.br. BR)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: finding new arse through which to do this to same idjits again, and again.. is work. heavy work.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am thinking of exactly what i said, no more, not less. if you own a computer you wipe the crap and install workable software on it.
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting for the new bit
mircea_popescu: there's a limit to this "understanding new ideas through the old forms of experience". that limit is, when the new idea parts start getting procusted.
asciilifeform: thinking moar of '90s 'format his hdd' then?
mircea_popescu: none of that has anything to do.
asciilifeform: items like mining trojan, or cc harvester, operator wants to stay put for a while
asciilifeform: persistence is term of art
mircea_popescu: nobody gives a shit about the persistence of bullcrap.
mircea_popescu: dude... SHOOT THEM. have woman make other ones.
mircea_popescu: why do you expect you'd be invested in persistence ? and why is it not obvious, "getting my kids (ie, specified moo moos) to stay interested in republic persistently is extraordinary pain for no gain"
asciilifeform: and their sport
asciilifeform: sorta like mircea_popescu's man , boy and dog trio
asciilifeform: what's it then
asciilifeform: ( ftr asciilifeform knew - from experience - that infection/persistence/stealth on idjit winblowz boxes takes extraordinary pain, for little to no gain; and is somewhat surprised to see mircea_popescu apparently convinced nao )
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 01:22 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687915 << the problem with these "distinctions" is that they propose to import ntp in to "work". im not about to drag that into codebase, and i dont' care for "working" so defined.