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mircea_popescu: shit that only happened on planet "i'm a fat fuckhead and i will daydream an alt-history in which women actually did shit" ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "wtf is cogburn" "it's a reference to a film you stopped because wtf is this stupid shit."
mircea_popescu: also, i am not a cryptographer.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski original deal was for a dozen, you;'d prolly make it
mircea_popescu: methinks institutionals got told a few words ?
asciilifeform just unpacked a laser printer/scanner/copier thingie and went 'wtf' because it weighs maybe half of what the dearly departed predecessor did. must be 95% corn plastic or sumthing
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 22:57:01; nubbins`: i floated a design, nobody was too fussy, nothing else suggested
mircea_popescu: iirc we had a guy in here who claimed 546805806 years of precious metal guruism
mircea_popescu: cazalla write to the author and to forbes editor, tell them they can either publish a fix or else i sue. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: PFate: well congrats on "We have proven ourselves: Since our launch in 2012, there was not a single security breach."
PFate: erm, just a pleb atm
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 21:54:54; asciilifeform: i never got around to shitting out a patch to remove the hardcoded seedz
pete_dushenski: "hey look, a gummy worm!"
asciilifeform: folks who, to a first approximation, -don't read for pleasure- tend to write rather disconcertingly like a poorer version of what they did read. sorta like vomit looks something like the food at times
mircea_popescu: "My, that is an effective manipulation. You are a dangerous man"
mircea_popescu: basicaly... these are kids whoise main feature is having sat through a bunch of bad marketing seminars.
mircea_popescu: ham fisted, Hariezer is consistently telling us about all the manipulative tricks they are both using. Its less a conversation and more people who just sat through a shitty marketing seminar trying to try out what they learned. WITH RAPE. "
mircea_popescu: "So, Hariezer is joking about the murder (its made clear later), but WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING? These escalating friendship-tests feel contrived, reciprocity is effective when you don’t make demands immediately, which is why when you get a free sample at the grocery store the person at the counter doesn’t say “did you like that? Buy this juice or we won’t be friends anymore.” This whole conversation feels
mircea_popescu: hey, does wikiquote have a page of quotes from my cat yet ?
mircea_popescu: there was a very apt summary in that physicits's criticism. i suppose i should look it up.
asciilifeform: The youth: ‘Nonsense! You don't suppose the Germans are going to encourage Fascism in this country, do you? They don't want to breed up a race of warriors to fight against them. Their object will be to turn us into slaves. That's why I'm a pacifist. They'll encourage people like me.’
mircea_popescu: im starting to notice a pattern here, he reads exactly like yak guy, once i read yak guy
mircea_popescu: his mantears over bitcoin existing coupled with a certain need for "Expertise" in certain quarters...
mircea_popescu: so i guess two can't admits make it a mindblowing evil thing.
mircea_popescu: for the other it's not ok to admit urbit exists strictly because a) yarvin's chumpatron attempt failed just at the time b) usg was looking for a particular tool
mircea_popescu: well for one thing it's not ok to admit yarvin is orlov in a different color scheme
mircea_popescu: As a development methodology it's often useful to write hoon that tracks an existing C routine rather than the other way around, but even this needs to be done quite carefully to avoid jet discrepancies."
mircea_popescu: "Writing an empty stub is an extremely bad practice and should only be done in desperation, because at the urbit level it produces a system event log that is nonrepeatable, or at least noncompliant with the nock spec. Discrepancies propagate rapidly in any kind of replay. You should be able to turn off all jets and get the same result. This is not practical, but it is practical if you disable everything but a few ba
mircea_popescu: nobody is disputing it's a very useful tool for many things.
asciilifeform: must add also that the possibility of emulating a reasonably unix-capable computer is relatively recent. in university 'operating systems' courses in '99 folks were still rebooting actual pc, with floppy, 500 times a day. in 2006 - qemu.
asciilifeform has a list.
asciilifeform: i humbly request a copy of r. stevens's 'tcp/ip' bound in his skin.
mircea_popescu: well yes. im chasing the culprit. i wish to know who the fuck thought this is a good idea.
asciilifeform: i think we shot (a) in the head
mircea_popescu: so far, i'm a) chasing whoever the fuck broke the world by making an idiotic libnss and b) unconvinced the problem's more than that dns bs.
asciilifeform: because 4) we have a rusted-solid 'luger' from 1941
asciilifeform: ideally i would not even suggest something as terrifyingly unpleasant as - in effect - giving everyone a 486.
mircea_popescu: but that's a different discussion.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is right, but in the same way as a fella taking penicillin is 'swallowing poison'
asciilifeform: or it runs in my head & a pencil
asciilifeform: but think of it as a skyscraper foundation. there is tremendous pressure on it
mircea_popescu: how do you distinguish a bug in the os from a bug in the emulator from a bug in the code ?
asciilifeform: suggested nailing down a machine spec
asciilifeform: that'd be a monumentally strange thing to do. but not what suggested.
mircea_popescu: you essentially have managed to divorce a new academia out of engineering
mircea_popescu: inb short : it'd be great if emulators as you conceptually represent one existed and work. they do not. what we need is a distro to set in stone.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, this is lieke 90% of what i'd want a 2nd pet for
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'll need to get a map to check that
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, granted, it's "a better hypervisor". still runs on another os.
asciilifeform: x86_64 contains specific provisions for running a process in 'short' (x86) mode
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski "The teens are the sons of Roxanne Dubé, who only recently assumed the role of consul general in Miami. A former Fulbright scholar, she has extensive diplomatic experience, having worked as an aide in Parliament and as the ambassador to Zimbabwe."
pete_dushenski: why can't they just buy coke from a classmate like normal kids of consuls ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a minor point, but anyway.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the short version of the difference is that a 'hypervisor' emulates -certain- instructions, that are understood to modify the global state of the machine in ways which would allow the guest os to monopolize the hardware (e.g., write a block to the disk at index I) whereas an emulator emulates -all- instructions executed by the guest
asciilifeform: hypervisor has a specific meaning
mircea_popescu: so far this is a hypervisor.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we have a confusion of terminology here. an emulator is, for instance, 'zsnes' - popular 'super nintendo' emul
asciilifeform: hypervisor is a very other animal, where certain instructions are emulated ('sensitive' ring0 ones) while most execute naked.
mircea_popescu: look, qemu is essentially a hypervisor.
mircea_popescu: but pretending like magic works isn't a solution to it.
mircea_popescu: this is a problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the problem is that the pc architecture (as a standard that you can hard-hold a vendor to) is dead.
Adlai: BingoBoingo: no, the best part: McSwagger was awakened from a deep sleep by his pager, only to find out that he was being called by his own nurse, apparently because he needed something for sleep
mircea_popescu: but yes, the execration has occured to me a number of times.
mircea_popescu: well how the fuck was i to know a year later ima be all the way up in thompsoncpp
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1084286 << this is a correct approach, the problem seems to be however that compilers don't work properly.
asciilifeform: which includes a type not defined in the src.
asciilifeform: and turned out that it has a lying gcc
mircea_popescu: not sure about yours, mebbe worth a shit
mircea_popescu: with its own. it's a whole complete universe.
asciilifeform: but no one has suggested a good idea.
mircea_popescu: you're fighting shit with a taller tower. of shit.
mircea_popescu: it's a bad idea.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do this in life. if you have a reasonably-fast computer, it is tolerable.
Cogburn: thank, you but you need not keep voicing me. I'll consider the invitation for the WoT. Glad to clear some things up. Have a great night.
mircea_popescu: emulators are seriously a very bad idea for this.
asciilifeform: it being, what folks do in school. emulate a machine that is described on half a sheet of paper
mircea_popescu: what, "posix" ? that's not a thing
asciilifeform: even if there is a universe full of falsehood. as pointed out, stupidity cuts into equivalence classes.
asciilifeform: jjust like spamsolutions.txt is not a textbook
asciilifeform: as a massage.
asciilifeform: not as a serious guide for humans !
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asciilifeform: sorta the same feeling i used to get when i was a regular reader of 'secret' forums for spammers
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's targeted at folks who think the usg is a good idea and windows an operating system.
asciilifeform: i suppose one can patent a chumpatron.
asciilifeform: for all i know, 'keybase' is a licensee
asciilifeform: it's a 'keybase'.
asciilifeform: but the asymmetry is required for honest crypto. i.e. if mr luser can determine a privkey to go with luser@luserdom.com than so can you and i
asciilifeform: 2) usg generates a private key to 'go with' the public
mircea_popescu: any random string being hashable, any random string could be used as a pubkey, in principle. may take some work to mine a usable privkey to go with it, but...
asciilifeform: 1) idiot generates a 'public key' by his email, or name, being hashed
cazalla: <Cogburn> Hahahah we had a twitter fight a year ago and people think i hate you <<< not people, your friend from coinwhatever website
danielpbarron: cazalla, Patch.com reports the arrest of a Massachusetts man who sort to purchase a firearm << should be "sought to purchase" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'used' has a very peculiar meaning here
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 14:59:47; asciilifeform: what a crock of shit!
Cogburn: I apparently did an interview with a blogger antagonistic to you and I wanted to clarify any guilt by association
Cogburn: Hahahah we had a twitter fight a year ago and people think i hate you
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mircea_popescu: btw, anyone ever got rms' new autoreply ? the one where he goes "i'm on a 48 hour delay like mpex" ?