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ascii_modem: though i'm pretty sure it left a dns turd in somewhere - so a bit odd, this
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:54:27; trinque: someone could solve this; gentoo has this neckbeard orthodoxy which imo is the only thing preventing it from having a proper installer
mircea_popescu: and you do not see a problem with this ?
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 05:52:05; mircea_popescu: because it is unacceptable for a world to exist where i may have to spend more than an hour getting a new os running.
ascii_modem: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-04-2015#1089295 << ftr a new gentoo box usually takes me at least a week - if on sane hardware ☝︎
nubbins`: a study in poopsites
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> a lathe is the essence of unusable. <<< o.O i bet you have soft hands
mircea_popescu: a lathe is the essence of unusable.
ascii_modem: mircea_popescu: gentoo is not so much a 'usable linux' as a -machine for building a usable linux-. sorta like 'buildroot'. would you also say that, e.g., a lathe - is 'unusable' ?
mircea_popescu: it's a bizarre sort of museum-ification of life.
BingoBoingo: Setup a freedom toaster at a conference, some idiots are going to put one up in a space they have access to thinking it will attact passerby outside the conference distortion swirl, same with BTC ATMs
BingoBoingo: Will it's an attempt to make some money for the people selling the boxes, but mostly it's a piece of conference swag some naive souls tried to introduce into the real world.
mircea_popescu: rather than a ludicrous attempt to be hipsterashionable.
mircea_popescu: i originally imagined it's a misguided attempt to make money,
mircea_popescu: im starting to realise the "bitcoin atm" thing is actually just a sort of "freedom toaster" v2.0
mats: quoth the spender: "the problem i set out to solve with UDEREF was that many kernel bugs can be exploited (at all or more reliably) due to the fact that on i386 most OSs don't separate the userland virtual address space from that of the kernel. this in turn means that whenever userland can make the kernel (unexpectedly) dereference a userland controlled
trinque: sounds like a hell of a fun time
mircea_popescu: stepping on transvestite cocks and hispster beards, in a swamp of hurt feelings.
trinque: someone could solve this; gentoo has this neckbeard orthodoxy which imo is the only thing preventing it from having a proper installer ☟︎☟︎
mats: and here i thought mp was going to show a moment of vulnerability
mircea_popescu: because it is unacceptable for a world to exist where i may have to spend more than an hour getting a new os running. ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: i have a gentoo that comes up as expected - but sans eth0, and damned if i can figure out why.
mircea_popescu: ie, my way out of swallowing random binary strange is to get a solid block of binary strange ? from... red hat ? ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 04:25:47; decimation: well, redhat provides a static libc
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-04-2015#1089192 << maybe i'm from the wrong asylum, but what exactly does "provide a static X" mean ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-04-2015 04:12:42; ascii_modem: as someone who only ever knew about it from #b-a links - i thought it was a kinda nature preserve just for folks like woodman
decimation: somewhere there was a sweatshop where some asian person was committing code to this device
ascii_modem: fitted non-ecc ram in a car? enjoy being used as living crash dummy in next test
ascii_modem: fits-in-head is the only answer. though it goes well with a balanced diet of public impalements for wreckerz
decimation: Misbehaviors of Toyota’s ETCS are a cause of UA. "
decimation: Barr's ultimate conclusions were that: Toyota’s electronic throttle control system (ETCS) source code is of unreasonable quality. Toyota’s source code is defective and contains bugs, including bugs that can cause unintended acceleration (UA). Code-quality metrics predict presence of additional bugs. Toyota’s fail safes are defective and inadequate (referring to them as a “house of cards” safety architecture).
decimation: it's in the logs somewhere. point is, there's a whole cottage industry around trying to 'support' C for missions that matter
Adlai never understood why nobody wrote a tree-shaking compiler
decimation: ^ what he means, specifically, is that you can enslave your rhel machine to a winblows 'kerberos/ldap' server
assbot: How Red Hat killed its core product—and became a billion-dollar business | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1GVabMr )
decimation: http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/02/how-red-hat-killed-its-core-productand-became-a-billion-dollar-business/ < ""We never ever go into a customer and say, 'There's an application that's not supported on RHEL," Cormier said. "If it's supported on Windows, it's supported on RHEL.""
nubbins`: meanwhile windows wants to turn itself into a bunch of sheets of coloured construction paper laid out on a blue tarp
decimation: well, redhat provides a static libc ☟︎
ascii_modem: when will we read 'death of a sp4mz0r' ?
nubbins`: lel the roomie and his friend are watching "death of a fuckin salesman"
nubbins`: roll a few, count the naughts
nubbins`: oh, wait, it was a thousand "bronze bitcoins" or smth with 5btc on each
nubbins`: he says he buried it in a capsule somewhere
ascii_modem: as someone who only ever knew about it from #b-a links - i thought it was a kinda nature preserve just for folks like woodman ☟︎
nubbins`: so that he may deliver his piece de resistance: a 500btc scavenger hunt that can only be solved by purchasing all of his old laser-engraved coins from the various sock accounts that "bought" them
nubbins`: "He did post it. Not only was he banned from this forum that day (he unbanned himself with an exploit), but ALL of the videos on his youtube were reported and removed for copyright infringement, including the ones showing detail work because there was music playing on the radio in the background. In short he already went out of his way to prove his innocence to a bunch of stalker idiots here just to have his accounts shut down and was tired
nubbins`: /home/nubs/dev/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/ourlibs/lib/libcrypto.a(dso_dlfcn.o): undefined reference to symbol 'dlerror'
ascii_modem: opensourced about a decade ago
ascii_modem: here's a perverse idea
nubbins`: incrementally closer to portatronic pogotron. it's now complaining about libcrypto referencing a libdl component
ascii_modem: be aware that, like the rest of opensourcedom, it is in a fairly advanced state of ... declapse (tm)
nubbins`: no sense compiling e.g. a ton of boost python libs
nubbins`: if you get bcp compiled, you can just do the following to spit out a custom subset of boost, tailored for your project:
nubbins`: /home/nubs/dev/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/ourlibs/lib/libcrypto.a(dso_dlfcn.o): undefined reference to symbol 'dlerror'
nubbins`: .so would be the shared lib, .a is static -- looks like libcrypto.a is complaining
decimation: it is apparently possible to create a static glibc
Adlai: whereas chess... now that is a ddos attack on all levels of human intellect
Adlai: iirc it was norvig who called sudoku "a ddos attack on the human intellect", although it may be more like a pack of hyenas preying on the stragglers
mats: well. #b-a gets to share credit for the latter.
decimation: Now, it may be arbitrary. But they are getting what looks like a determinate choice because the alternative is chaos."
decimation: "o place is. No place that survives is majoritarian. That's what is striking, is, all countries that survive have what are in effect ways of controlling this problem. And so the insight that comes from this is, you can explain what look like odd institutions because--no one may have understood it. This is a very Hayekian point--no one may have understood that they are getting stability from this. They are getting a determinate choice.
mats: pretty sure i had cosmic aid. this is my first win in over a hundred attempts
mircea_popescu: then chokes showed up and for a good decade people were all "no dude, there is a shaolin monk somewhere that can hit your spirit!!11"
mircea_popescu: Adlai there's no such thing as "the reality of a society"
trinque: maybe incredible that he thought his spirit-energy dancing was a thing
assbot: Incredible fight between a Kiai master and a MMA fighter - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRapsB )
ben_vulpes: "...ben_vulpes finally kicked off a kernel compile.
trinque: a chi power "fighter" getting beaten to a pulp by an MMA fighter, that sort of situation comes to mind
Adlai: at the end of the day, nothing that (a little|complete removal of) css can't fix
Adlai: that site overloads my undesirable crackpot filters with false positives before ocr has even returned a single line
nubbins`: but everybody who studies the nature of consciousness is a crackpot
trinque: I'm a crackpot so w/e
nubbins`: was shared here a while back
Adlai is a little suspicious of the presentation screaming "we are crackpots! real scientists hate us!"
trinque: nubbins` | so if there's a model that contains models of all the models << nobody's head has a complete model of anything
ben_vulpes: "you can't model the universe with anything short of a universe."
nubbins`: and it contains a model of itself
nubbins`: so if there's a model that contains models of all the models
trinque: in the head of a human, it most certainly is
trinque: sure, but there's a model which says compare the output of various models
ben_vulpes: using only a single model is a risky move itself.
trinque: going further, it stands to reason that neither most nor many men can produce a model of reality that works, in that it deals with risk well and identifies reward
ben_vulpes: Adlai: french revolution is indeed a good tale of the hidden power structure (french bureaucracy) toppling the figureheads.
trinque: mircea_popescu: this brings back to mind what you said last night about making a clear distinction between natural law and the purpose-driven "regulation" of human societies. I'm not in a position to well articulate this, so I'll just barf this: it seems the HN commenter in question is simply not in touch with reality, and there is nothing forcing him to be, neither nature nor someone in charge of
Adlai: in other words: a sufficient number of underclassmen armed with pitchforks (or AK47s) can ruin an upperclassman's day
mircea_popescu: "how about you go be a transsexual/gender confused/derpopotamus about Bitcoin TOO, then"
mircea_popescu: "so you mean to tell me now i don't get a say into how the world works anymore, because back when i got the benefit of the doubt all i could do was being an idiot on reddit ?" "exactly"
mircea_popescu: "what do you mean, i can't own a pet only for the portion where i wanna play with it, but not for the portion where i have to feed it and clean its cage ??!?!" "exactly"
mircea_popescu: "but we only want a say in the things we want a say in and only for the part we want to say something" "yeah well that's not how this works"
mircea_popescu: this idea that most people "should" get a say in what happens to them... dude, if you do that, the same most people go "hey, i don't want to be bothered reading 548958609 pages of tax code, to then go have a hanging party for the govt that made it".
mircea_popescu: they had A CHANCE and they fucked it up.
mircea_popescu: "Why does that matter? Because people have a right to democratic institutions. People have a right to vote on or have a say in matters that govern their lives. Bitcoin, as it exists now, takes that away from people."
assbot: Whether Bitcoin was designed as a scam, I'm not too interested. Whether Bitcoin... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1DzQZ7v )
ben_vulpes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9321313 << "i don't get a say in this new world order and that sucks!"
ben_vulpes: that's a spectacular derping on my part i suppose
trinque: vs they consider amd64 to be a separate architecture entirely
mircea_popescu: part of this is his complete neglect of investing in politics, which is why as a senile old man he's writing blanket checks to the government.
mircea_popescu: buffett is a success story in the sense that he managed, with skill and persistence, to get fleeced LESS than anyone else.
mircea_popescu: conceivably you have to make well over 50% per year to keep up with the bureaucracy inflation that always doubles paper money inflation in a command economy.
mircea_popescu: that's a little over 20% per annum.