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BingoBoingo going to take a walk while the rain's stopped and try to unload some of this cortisol
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform that your dc respects you is probably your only asset now. giving that away will yield what, "a clearer situation" ? << This is my worry about "renegotiating" with the DC
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that your dc respects you is probably your only asset now. giving that away will yield what, "a clearer situation" ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho trinque is right , tomorrow morning is the time to have a talk with the dc rep re bw pricing function ( and post the output to our www asap )
trinque: it's a model of a negotiation, not proposing a specific, other than not sitting around thinking about how lordly we are while we die
trinque: "capacity will temporarily be X while BingoBoingo Ys, this gives T time left to P. customers will meanwhile accumulate S shares per billing cycle of diminished capacity" as a rough model of what I'm talking about.
trinque: BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886484 << I was looking for a calculation on your part, so you have something to negotiate with customers. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "my five year plan for pizarro is that by the time we're done with the first three it'll not be physically possible to do such a thing as 'host a website' anywhere else."\
mircea_popescu: tmsr isn't some cool secret project for five dorks under some covers in a pillow fort somewhere. tmsr is the rule of the world and mandatory at all junctures, wtf.
mircea_popescu: the shaver shaves universally -- it's not one shaver for phf and a diff one shaver for pizarro.
mircea_popescu: and i hear he has a wife to support, as well.
diana_coman: myeah, that "into the black in two months" seems to me weird here; the trouble is not even "in two months" but at all; because it has been way more than 2 months and if it keeps going as is, I doubt 10 months would make a difference
trinque: don't know if y'all have a realistic perception of what sales takes, and "I'm gonna sell my way into the black in two months" sounds like.
diana_coman: trinque, for s.mg it's less straightforward and it's not even just a matter of backups only; at any rate, it's at best "starvation mode" so I don't see how it really gets pizarro out of trouble; so far it's not even clear that *price* is the trouble re converting really; is it?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-12 19:41 BingoBoingo: ^ Any awk ninjas want to try this on a few forums?
asciilifeform: this item is on acct of the geography, and i do not presently know of a cure
BingoBoingo: links earlier mentioned. At present there is one ongoing conversation as a result of this.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 22:15 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there can be no question of 'sharing rack', it's entirely nonstarter. what there are, are half-height racks, in which most of the other customers of that bldg live. but they are bad deal, iirc they only cost slightly less than a full 42 height.
mircea_popescu: on a long enough timeline the unlikely becomes certainty\
asciilifeform: in re the uy1 machine: i'ma set up a realtime systemlog printer for that machine. if there's a physical problem with the iron, i expect we will find the culprit shortly.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, on a side note, that iii footnote is funny now "and while it is entirely possible someone strikes a multi-BTC jackpot, it is not altogether very likely"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well for the most part, I have a bank account. We've been doing the fiat auctions, and one of the localbitcoins traders has grown his ablity to handle larger conversions as he's gone full time working his bicycle based currency exchange. So far this can meet our near term needs.
diana_coman: yes! I was basically waiting for something like that as a minimum re promised writeup review
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there can be no question of 'sharing rack', it's entirely nonstarter. what there are, are half-height racks, in which most of the other customers of that bldg live. but they are bad deal, iirc they only cost slightly less than a full 42 height. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> how do you see that working before pizarro starves? << I worry. The more I think about the marketing and trying to make a plan for marketing I worry. I am in the unhappy position of being out of my depth on the marketing problem, repeating my concerns about my lack of marketing prowess, trying to apply advice as I can while juggling other concerns, and not getting any feedback on incentives that can bring other people in
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i never heard of a body that thrived by eating its fingers, no.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886499 << yeah, dunno if youi're using mp-wp or not, but in any case, it has a filter thingee you can turn off/adsjust ☝︎
BingoBoingo: If the marketing can't start catching fish. On this point I am working on a response to diana_coman. The short of it is I want help, and I want to know what kind of incentive can bring in some hands to help with marketing.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 18:55 trinque: how much runway does a smaller pipe give, and what's the definition of "smaller pipe"?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886483 << it can't possibly be the problem the dc's kicking him out, he just got a decent chunk wired there. i rather expect he's running into tyhe problem of what to eat himself. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but in other keks, this could be taken as a "shutdown" a la republique.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 18:49 trinque: trivially, if you're not using the full capacity of the rack, first thing I'd do is try to renegotiate the contract with DC for a smaller rental.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-12 01:00 asciilifeform: wtf re '49 Year Old' tho! i'd naively think 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb'...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-12#1886407 << where's he going to meet a 20something ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 16:45 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884603 << BingoBoingo i'd ~really~ like to hear what is current plan for gettin' heathen custom, so as to finally get the hell out of the red. asciilifeform dun have a massive treasure chest that can run pizarro 'on battery' 4evah (hopefully not surprising, this)
diana_coman: I fail to find also a continuation to http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884838 - > was there some discussion on this going forwards? ☝︎
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, I re-read now that post with the idea in mind that it's meant to be the "fleshed out" version - it reads like a reasonable summary but I still fail to see the fleshed out plans going forward and esp re "try to drink the ocean" ; I followed the links and noticed the posts but I still get the impression those are only a few and/or manually done, is that correct?
diana_coman: I still think it's a mess basically and I wrote it there like that with bullet points precisely because I know I will keep tripping over this so at least I know where to go to ...
a111: Logged on 2019-01-11 18:06 asciilifeform: and ftr i'm surely doomed to run into diana_coman's puzzler myself, when i go to write a threaded proggy (e.g. adaized trb)
a111: Logged on 2019-01-11 17:48 asciilifeform: ( re 'how many witnesses', see diana_coman's article, it reviews the necessary maffs, i.e. P(yer prime aint a prime and you die) == (1/4)^n, where n is # of witness )
a111: Logged on 2019-01-11 17:28 asciilifeform: would still be handy if someone knew of a smaller bound for s, but not burning q.
a111: Logged on 2015-03-06 02:28 asciilifeform: 'On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-11#1886328 << absolutely not ; as a philosophical matter this is akin to asking for "the machine to extend classes implicitly" aka both dwim & http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-06#1043874 rolled into one. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't know that there's anything wrong with returning gcd of 0,0 as 0. in my abstract mental model wherein 1 is a divisor of all numbers, gcd 0,0 =1, and furthermore 0 can never be a divisor of anything ; but this purely set-driven problem is inconsequential in boole's alt-world afaak.
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, specifically and a bit of follow-up on trinque's point above: pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ has this tiny paragraph starting with "action items" - was/is that fleshed out anywhere? << I flesh out Pizarro's situation here http://bingology.net/2019/01/11/more-lessons-learned-pizarro-entering-2019/ I am hoping to get feedback from the Pizarro board (asciilifeform and mod6) and this forum. trinque is the first person to
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, specifically and a bit of follow-up on trinque's point above: pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ has this tiny paragraph starting with "action items" - was/is that fleshed out anywhere?
diana_coman: at any rate, the q was exactly that: a q for clarification; not finding fault
mircea_popescu: "There isn't, nor is there going to be a way, manner, instrument or device through which to protect the passive from the active." or how did that go.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, hmm basically a client can end up "making an account" with Eve and not even knowing it/getting then stuck/receiving unexpected messages at next attempt with legitimate server; I'm sure a client can basically recover/notice in the end but it pushes a bit more complexity on client
mod6: Also, it seems that my mega-diff in the blog somehow slightly-skews the justification to the right by a few characters. I'll try to remedy that. In the mean time, if people want to just read the raw text post instead, I've made that available here as well: http://www.mod6.net/2019/January/13/keccak_regrind_noUTF8.txt
mod6: Thank you in advance to all who read my blog post and make it all the way through. It's a bit lengthy, but most of it may be fairly obvious to the initiated.
mod6: While Republicans are reviewing the above, I'm going to continue working on my TRB HOWTO updates -- I think it's pretty much finished, but I want to test it first before I start handing it around for testing by all. After this, and blessings of the regrind from TMSR~, I'll put a date on when thebitcoin.foundation site will roll over to the keccak vtree exclusively.
mod6: http://blog.mod6.net/?p=26 << Here's my TRB Keccak Regrind blog post. I have a tarball linked very near the bottom that contains my reground trb keccak vtree, as well as seals for each. These are posted so one may test with these (I need the help!).
trinque: at any rate, let me know if you actually want me to weigh in on how to keep it alive. if not, let me know when you want to scrap my server for me, and we can split the proceeds. dead in april without a plan in january is dead now.
trinque: how much runway does a smaller pipe give, and what's the definition of "smaller pipe"? ☟︎
trinque: trivially, if you're not using the full capacity of the rack, first thing I'd do is try to renegotiate the contract with DC for a smaller rental. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 09:59 spyked: and in better news, house mogosanu (82.79.58.192) has a fully synced trb node up. it's been running without issues for almost a month now. IMHO it's ready to be added to http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html (cc mod6)
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886456 << Thanks for reading & feedback diana_coman! I'm working to port over the old-ones as I can. I'll find a temporary solution in the mean time. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ad interim the draft is, that the client stores all the keys (rsa, serpent, whatever) one per line, the rsa ones in republican format, the rest unspecified as of yet, in a file called keys.tmsr encrypted by the rsa key of the client.
mircea_popescu: this is a matter of best practices that's by its nature a republican standard candidate, so i'd very much like to hear the esteemed lordship. ☟︎
spyked: and in better news, house mogosanu (82.79.58.192) has a fully synced trb node up. it's been running without issues for almost a month now. IMHO it's ready to be added to http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html (cc mod6) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:30 mircea_popescu: spyked is evidently trying, hence feedbot, but evidently having trouble reconciling saeculum, which i'm going to let stand as such on the grounds that he's new -- even though experience shows that as a dubious idea [for all the eg one could possibly need witness how asciilifeform 's still in the swamp, so many years later].
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884617 <-- ftr, I agree 100% with this assessment. the last 4 months (at least) of my life have been a rollercoaster, and I'm just beginning to settle down into an arrangement where I can set goals without getting preempted at every corner. my current goal is to have a schedule posted by the end of the month, in the same style as http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2735 , ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 00:03 BingoBoingo: Attn: The Pizarro has rebooted, this was first noticed by mod6. A quick trip to the datacenter showed both power supplies were had their happy green lights lit, the ambient air was conditioned with cool everywhere outside the hot aisle, and the server's chassis was not particularly warm. attn: asciilifeform
mod6: The Foundation's colocated box there is not impacted -- this seems to be isolated to a problem with UY1 in particular.
BingoBoingo: Attn: The Pizarro has rebooted, this was first noticed by mod6. A quick trip to the datacenter showed both power supplies were had their happy green lights lit, the ambient air was conditioned with cool everywhere outside the hot aisle, and the server's chassis was not particularly warm. attn: asciilifeform ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Judging by the pictures it looks like she was a tanner more silicone'd version of his domestic partner
asciilifeform: wtf re '49 Year Old' tho! i'd naively think 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb'... ☟︎
asciilifeform: hrm, could've sworn there was a moar recent mircea_popescu thread re same
a111: Logged on 2019-01-11 17:48 asciilifeform: ( re 'how many witnesses', see diana_coman's article, it reviews the necessary maffs, i.e. P(yer prime aint a prime and you die) == (1/4)^n, where n is # of witness )
asciilifeform: ( i dun have a trademark on the phrase, naturally, but still a lul )
asciilifeform: and ftr i'm surely doomed to run into diana_coman's puzzler myself, when i go to write a threaded proggy (e.g. adaized trb) ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'peh' is intended as a working, weaponized demonstration of the 'specificity of diddling' principle. (but perhaps this was obvious to errybody.)
asciilifeform: i'ma include a few obvious approaches as example tapes, but it is NOT the intention that anyone use'em as-found.
asciilifeform: a 'graduate' of ffa (i.e. fella who ~read~ the thing, as it was intended to be read, and fit-in-head) will have no trouble writing his particular variant of correct prime generator for his particular type of key.
asciilifeform: observe that by this scheme, we also avoid hardcoding primorials for 'G' test. author of tape is responsible for including a primorial ~for his chosen ffawidth~ if he intends to use G litmusing.
asciilifeform: ( re 'how many witnesses', see diana_coman's article, it reviews the necessary maffs, i.e. P(yer prime aint a prime and you die) == (1/4)^n, where n is # of witness ) ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( he can use 'G' as litmus, or not use, can use 16 witnesses or 666, etc, rather than being forced into a particular scheme )
asciilifeform: this allows 'P' to be a constant-spacetime operation, and hands the decision of 'just how important to constant-time the whole prime generation' to the author of the tape.
asciilifeform: ( in each invocation, P returns 1 if m-r didn't 'go bang' and a 0 if did. )
asciilifeform: per the ffa plan, 'P' command will take two numbers from the stack, a candidate integer and a witness. author of pcode tape determines how many witnesses to use, he iterates by generating witnesses and calling P repeatedly as many times as he wants
Mocky: is the number of witnesses to be a knob or fixed?
asciilifeform: would still be handy if someone knew of a smaller bound for s, but not burning q. ☟︎
asciilifeform: hrm , asciilifeform's 'wtf' to this was based on a backwards reading of his chalkboard. modsquares are fast.
asciilifeform: cuz without a bound, s is potentially ffawidth - 1 .
asciilifeform: unrelatedly: diana_coman , were you ( or anyone else... ) ever able to derive a bound for 's' in m-r ? ( http://ossasepia.com/2017/12/28/eucrypt-chapter-3-miller-rabin-implementation/#selection-125.2765-125.2766 )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if your 'main' is a c/cpp proggy , you gotta trigger the elaborator 'by hand', regardless of which type of lib your ada coad is in, afaik.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 14:14 diana_coman: my trajectory in hitting walls on this was precisely that: make it static -> surprise, no adainit exported/included, checked the .a file and everything, went nuts; make it dynamic -> ugh, need -lgnat and whatnot; rtfm again and again, there is this calo-magar
diana_coman: possibly; at the end of the day it's a choice and one can have gcd implemented one way or another, as long as the choice made is clearly stated on the tin
diana_coman: i.e. why would you check a gcd for not being 0 since it should never be 0
asciilifeform: !A .1.1.0M*
asciilifeform: !A .1.0/#
asciilifeform: i sat down last night and tried to conceive a 'div0'-style situation where you 'bought own cross' as result of permitting gcd(0,0) to execute. but did not find one.
diana_coman: other than that the "reason" I can see is that otherwise in principle you need an additional check each time you call gcd (i.e. to make sure you don't step even if once in a blue moon) on this particular rake
asciilifeform: ideally would like to conceive of a justification for either setting.
diana_coman: myeah, that's not in itself a reason to not do it (if anything, it's the opposite really, given the usual "what everybody does"
asciilifeform: !A .0.0G#
asciilifeform: !A .1.0G#
asciilifeform: !A .0.1G#
diana_coman: asciilifeform, hm, I can't say that I have a very clear idea of ALL potential implications but atm I don't see some specific downside to that; I suppose the alternative would be to raise an error on gcd(0,0)?