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asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo for the sweat.
asciilifeform: goodnight BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: oh neat, ty trinque . will depend on how much folx weigh. may have to do 1-2 at a time.
asciilifeform: trinque: BingoBoingo spent day w/ wheelbarrow to remove irons from meltdown zone, i expect soon will have tarballs.
asciilifeform: ok trinque . then dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/... and iron auctions. ( after all else finish )
asciilifeform: there's a crematory list
asciilifeform: trinque: want disks cremated ?
asciilifeform: then to auctionblock re the rest of it. but fg to trinque .
asciilifeform: aha ha. then trinque plox to gpg re where it wants to live.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plz sleep, aha
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo . can also look up by what his price was, if it's == colo + fg, then was our fg.
asciilifeform also
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: trinque's box contains FG. look up whether personal ( in which case must be posted to him ) or piz's plox
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo . and wb trinque
asciilifeform will bbl, also meat.
asciilifeform: goodnight mod6
asciilifeform: lobbes: afaik auctionbot contains no seekritz (other than fleanode pw for itself) so in principle could live ~anywhere
asciilifeform: neato lobbes
asciilifeform: mod6: imho this is 1 of those cases where 'the spring is no good w/out the ratchet, or the ratchet -- w/out the spring' .
asciilifeform: but imho if actually maintaining the proggy dun come 1st, then what may end with is item resembling the pseudofoundation, which has lengthy tentacles but 0 grasp of the orig. item (not even enuff grasp to do seriously complex evil, for the most part.)
asciilifeform: mod6: imho this , important -- what good is 'ref impl.' if no one understands it, or why even exists. i dun actually disagree w/ mp re 'needs public tentacles'.
asciilifeform: imho it was a much better 'have-read' world to play in head with, than 'to-read' per se, 1 of those.
asciilifeform liked.
asciilifeform: but even if not answers, no pulse, 'the spice must flow'(tm)
asciilifeform: perhaps he still has a pulse, might answer.
asciilifeform: mod6: diana_coman has eaten all of the material to date.
asciilifeform: i do not know whether diana_coman is still taking people into her school, but for a ffa n00b it is imho a very desirable school.
asciilifeform: mod6: incidentally imho diana_coman 1) understands it about as well as asciilifeform 2) is a+++ pedagogue .
asciilifeform: for a novel 'trbi' is entirely uninteresting what or how did fucking openssl.
asciilifeform: but again this is only interesting if one's building a '100% trb-compat' in e.g. ada.
asciilifeform: even the 'der' parser, i presently have nfi how worx.
asciilifeform: for this, the biggest afaik hole in what is known, is how the idjit ssl-guts crypto stack operates.
asciilifeform: is only relevant to people who want to build trb-compat. mechanism from ground.
asciilifeform: mod6: importantly, tho, most of this horror aint relevant to 'trbi'
asciilifeform: or... i've a bunch of these.
asciilifeform: or, to take another, what will happen if a 'nonfinal' tx is again mined ?
asciilifeform: no one presently knows afaik.
asciilifeform: to take 1 example, is there a max reorg depth that still worx as expected ?
asciilifeform: mod6: i dare to say that no one 100% comprehends (not the protocol per se, i comprehend) but the entire behaviour space of the proggy per se.
asciilifeform: the heathens sorta tried to do this, but in the usual heathen way simply shat in their pants.
asciilifeform: esp. in such a way as to produce a spec that can then be worked from.
asciilifeform: mod6: annotation of trb is a+++ Right Thing imho.
asciilifeform himself 'studying ffa' , load it again into head !
asciilifeform: mod6: if you start to study ffa, dun hesitate to ask asciilifeform to help as you go in.
asciilifeform: mod6: as i understand you recently escaped gulag. so perhaps nao can do.
asciilifeform: mod6: for instance, i have a gnatistic o(1) block db thing, that's a gnat bugfix away from battle tests.
asciilifeform: mod6: i'ma submit for so long as anyone cares to read.
asciilifeform: ( maybe only i take these seriously ? but imho such documents ought to represent reality )
asciilifeform: mod6: new blood imho ought to then amend the charter.
asciilifeform: mod6: imho it is only because we have trb, that other meaningful work has what to breathe.
asciilifeform: imho these are the fundamentals, without which all other adventures pertaining to trb (e.g. propaganda) are meaningless.
asciilifeform: nao asciilifeform is no one in tbf. but will be sad if it comes to be the case that there is no tbf to fund emplacements of noades, curation of the ref. trb (incl. mod6's very fine build system) .
asciilifeform: maybe i'm alone in this, but i don't hold against mod6 that he was breaking his back in a salt mine.
asciilifeform: mod6: why not want to be involved ?
asciilifeform: there is nuffin in the charter regarding e.g. carrying out propaganda, or even the building of noades. (tho both imho are Right Thing)
asciilifeform: incidentally i dun agree w/ mp's verdict that tbf is somehow broken (aside from 1 of the 2 chairs having gone awol.) charter reads, clearly, 'This charter establishes the existence of a virtual organization whose mission is to maintain the Bitcoin reference implementation.' this was carried out .
asciilifeform: mod6: this is problem. per charter .
asciilifeform: re tbf
asciilifeform: mod6: unrelatedly, were you able to make contact with ben_vulpes at all ?
asciilifeform: mod6: i expect he'll come back from sea or wherever he is before week is out, seems to do so regularly nowadays.
asciilifeform: ty mod6 .
asciilifeform: ( 3rd, 4th, whothefuck knows what the clock's set to on any of these )
asciilifeform: hopefully comes in soon .
asciilifeform: ^ indeed
asciilifeform: !o seen-anywhere trinque
asciilifeform: but, mod6 , if at any point you find that you take a difference to asciilifeform's method of conducting the orchestra plox to asap say .
asciilifeform: mod6: it presently seems that we do not disagree .
asciilifeform: dc was bought out (presumably 'to make netflix cache' tho i dun specifically know its fate) and all subscribers hung to dry.
asciilifeform: it was a leased irons isp rather than colo
asciilifeform: (3) i.e. irons
asciilifeform: they tend to leave disgusting messes.
asciilifeform: mod6: clean unwind is sumthing the heathens dun know how.
asciilifeform: we are to set a proper standard, imho, for seppuku.
asciilifeform: fwiw asciilifeform had a heathen isp close on him 2y ago. had no (3) personally owned in it, but never saw an lick of (1) or (2) .
asciilifeform: and yes errybody is to get back 1) data 2) coin 3) iron, in that order.
asciilifeform: mod6: mp has been providing a++ guru meditation. i expect will say moar.
asciilifeform: seems like the only 1 who hasn't yet come up for air is trinque .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd rather not put those on a heathen hoster, but let's ask the affected folx 1st.
asciilifeform: mod6: currently i'm thinking, we do not need 'liquidator' a la bbet. we, ourselves, can properly play the orchestra as the ship goes down.
asciilifeform: if no one comes up with where, i'ma get hold of a cheap heathen thing, they're gpgballs, ought not matter where to put.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd offer to host , but, lol, haven't where
asciilifeform: i agree re mod6's '1st evacuate boxen'.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dun panic. asciilifeform simply would like to apply the necessary heat so as e.g. the sec deposit dun evaporate .
asciilifeform: mod6: and the sooner contract is finished with, the moar will remain.
asciilifeform: mod6: i dun expect that postage for boxen, or 1wk of refund, will eat anywhere close to whole piggy.
asciilifeform: mod6: since BingoBoingo apparently wishes to stay in uruguayistan, gotta cleanly nuke the contract.
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: mod6: i also doubt. but imho worth to at least find what'd cost .
asciilifeform: mod6: orc attourneys i suspect dun charge megabux. but imho worth to find what'd cost. perhaps even 1 would work on contingency, and then only costs to feed BingoBoingo .
asciilifeform: orc market aint payin' squat for boxes, i suspect.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: even so.
asciilifeform: supposing in fact someone decides to jettison a box(s) .
asciilifeform: i suppose oughta proper auction.
asciilifeform: btw if anyone doesn't want his box, i'll buy it (undisked naturally) for cost of postage.
asciilifeform: can then colo somewhere, in the new era of 'erry man for himself' colos.
asciilifeform: mod6: if you paid moar than coupla hundy for it, prolly worth to get it back via the post.
asciilifeform: mod6: yer unlikely to get ~anyffin for it if sold in orcistan.
asciilifeform: re customers, yes would rather give'em working boxes, but will have to be refund.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's genuine money.
asciilifeform: this re sec deposit ?