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asciilifeform: see, none of that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol, alternative desolder to "wick lead in" , vibrate it for 6 months ? :D
asciilifeform: trivial to rework
asciilifeform: ( the solder on the board, may eventually care. but not the epoxy. )
mircea_popescu: yet another case of "in discussing idiocy of idiots, sane people find out interesting truffs."
mircea_popescu: as opposed to "out of gerbils"
phf: i mean, i figured it's ~not~ the question of weight, obviously
asciilifeform: epoxy will hold it and if you pull it with four hourses it'll be the pcb socket that comes off, not the hs
phf: that's how the heatsink is attached to the surface, but i wasn't sure if it can handle the fan vibration
mircea_popescu: the heatsink/fan assemblage is not heavy enough for the paste to not hold it. esp if upright.
asciilifeform: phf: thermoepoxy !!
asciilifeform: only theory i can think of is he did not want to 'spoil' his 'rembrandt' with 'non-period' grease and hs
phf: relatedly i couldn't figure out how to attach the fan to the board without drilling into it. there's like two possible mount points, but requires machining a custom brace
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would he hassle dsk for an original fucking fan though. really, copper is expensive now ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693423 << i believe man's solution was to buy another $7k xl12xx. otherwise the website is distinguished by macro photos of symbolics boards and retellings in own words of Document Examiner material (which is also available in printed form, in before asciilifeform's "i have the whole printed set") ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and in other random lulz from the internets, https://profs.info.uaic.ro/~vcosmin/stuff/temp/psgbd/Tema_ScorDoi_Nr6/_Chiriac_Dorin_B5_6_2_Cazacu_Vlad_X1_6_2.html
mircea_popescu: if you have an irreversible hash function, it's better than encrypting.
trinque: and that at some point a log of the encrypted OTPs and their return (as seen over that serial cable by 3rd box) is moved somewhere, and the encrypted OTPs decrypted and matched up with OTPs received
trinque: in order for a log of OTPs to be meaningful, in that it asserts a particular person assented to an action at a given time, gotta know the OTP corresponds to the item sent to that person. the way I've been thinking about that is encrypting the OTP with two keys, one of which I hold; the other belonging to the outside party
mircea_popescu: or maybe i'm not understanding the problem ?
mircea_popescu: trinque can always hash any item that is long to check for conformity in audits. ☟︎
trinque: well, without transcribing or OCR'ing the log back in somewhere.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of baffling moongineering : why the fuck do they have SQUARE vent holes on places like us navy ships, where they can actually afford to design the cover rather than buy from walmart.
mircea_popescu: trinque it's for your own later audit. hence the tee
asciilifeform: i have nfi what that fella smokes
trinque: ah now I recall what might reduce the print audit's usefulness. it means visual inspection of the encrypted items, as well as OTPs. logger box has to first see the encrypted item, second, corresponding OTP, and then this log has to be verified by someone who can (elsewhere) crack open the encrypted ones and match up the OTPs.
mircea_popescu: but the engineering label seems to be falling off./
asciilifeform: also if i had a working ivorytron 1st thing i'd do is put diamond paste & hs from opteron on it... so yea wtf
asciilifeform: it costs much much less than lispm...
asciilifeform: dunno why he doesn't buy the tool used in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1871
mircea_popescu: lol mkay. i mean this dood. and wtf already, put some probes on the baffling process, this is science ?
asciilifeform: i think 'engineer' is the 'dougnyc' d00d
asciilifeform: oh hm i meant the other d00d
asciilifeform: it's the PALs
mircea_popescu: "So, it appears thermal stress on the Ivory CPU isn't the problem, or that the thermal stress is too great for that small heatsink to keep up with." do they not have laser thermometers where these people live or what is the problem here ?!
mircea_popescu: hey, 0.1% or so by mass, about 33% or so by output of usg.nsa/etc is zekware. and i mean this quite literally.
asciilifeform: is it like doctor on pirate ship ? they let'im go when new one caught ?
mircea_popescu: it's a thing.
asciilifeform: ( how to make 2+ -- exercise for reader )
asciilifeform: can cat directly, to paper, /dev/fg | xxd -p > /dev/ttyblah
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693331 <<< nah, arresthire. they're running out of talent pool. ☝︎
trinque: funny thing was I'd already considered having the OTP box burn a CD as it went along, just shitter printing without visual inspection.
asciilifeform: thermal tape shitter is also great for otp btw
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 17:51 asciilifeform: ... "I've spoken to the US Marshals again and they say they have no record of Marcus being in the system. At this point we've been trying to get in contact with Marcus for 18 hours and nobody knows where he's been taken," the person added. "We still don't know why Marcus has been arrested and now we have no idea where in the US he's been taken to'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693329 << typical "rule of law" for soviet / banana republics. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 17:43 asciilifeform: it is ~perfect : 1) no way for enemy to unhappen logs short of burning the bldg 2) easy to scroll through, read 3) thermal paper burns great
mircea_popescu: definitely one of the ten best anglo movies ever made, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: ok, well, if you're curious to delve into what did what to your mind, go see it sometime, and see it so that you answer me the question of "what did moore do wrong ?"
trinque: but ty
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 18:07 asciilifeform: trinque: incidentally i recently purchased a number of thermal printers from dying ratshacks, you can have one for cost of postage
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693332 << I stand next to a stack of them at this moment, lol ☝︎
asciilifeform: they were once connected to cash register
asciilifeform: trinque: the ones in question are rs232 boxes
trinque: see what the complexity hell did to my mind? "not printers, those are a nightmare cesspool"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason i even quoted etc is that for all the diversity, no actual stupidity came out. so...
asciilifeform: '... nor all thy wuillety or piet...'
mircea_popescu: if this isn'tr bitcoin, i dunno what is.
mircea_popescu: really this should be the motto of something. "The moving finger writes ; and, having writ, moves on. Nor all thy Piety nor Wit shall lure it back to cancel half a line ; nor all thy tears wash out a word of it."
asciilifeform: elsewhere , for all of asciilifeform's gripe re the trinitron d00d -- he immediately grasped 'why FUCKGOATS named'
asciilifeform: don't settle for inserting road cone into the bastard's arse, insert telephone pole.
asciilifeform: printing blockhash nukes the pre-prepped-tape-substitution attack also.
mircea_popescu: nor all your nsas or wit could call it back to cancel
mircea_popescu: how did the poet put it, "the writing head does write, and having writ, moves on ☟︎
asciilifeform: print current topblock hash also, every L lines.
mircea_popescu: actually b) is stronger than "Read only". FIXED ENTHALPY TIME FLOW.
asciilifeform: compact, too. and - unlike tractor - paper sold everywhere.
mircea_popescu: also fine. the whole idea is the ticker tape, not the method necessarily.
asciilifeform: i like thermal.
asciilifeform: dun believe - try yourself. record the 'bzzzz' and out come the bits.
asciilifeform: i dun much like those for even light seekritz, they leak via audio
mircea_popescu: ^ very much recommended for audit, this, btw. oldest system known to man, ticker tape, for telegraph and stock exchange. still unbeaten.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 17:41 trinque: if there were a hardware-only way of logging what traveled over that serial port, even better. that'd be the audit trail instead of the OTP box's disk.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693319 << of course there is, get an ancient tractor epson matrix printer, buy it paper, let it go. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( hence the ludicrously disproportionate effect of ssd )
shinohai: From the sewer: "I think bcash sounds much cooler than bitcoin. the name bitcoin feels like myspace, bcash feels like facebook."
asciilifeform: i did hope to find some other major source of dogslow. but nope.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 17:23 asciilifeform: which i demonstrated (at least to my satisfaction) as caused by slow verification on ~own~ end, of incoming blocks
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693293 << no, this is well credible. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: a no. hang on im behind teh history here.
asciilifeform: i thought this was re 'ploy' item
asciilifeform: oh that!
mircea_popescu: "For ready comparison, the "journalists" of the Empire of Stupid were mentally slow and bodily lazy enough to publish a pdf that betrayed their source last month." links it neh.
asciilifeform: did the footnotes get cut off ?
asciilifeform: i dun see it there ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no i know, i already put it in teh report.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, asciilifeform has a crackpot twist theory re why 'shitcoin cash' tire fire : it's a ploy to make impatient folx glom their addrs ( for usg's 'taint db' farms ) when splitting&selling shitforkolade
asciilifeform: trinque: incidentally i recently purchased a number of thermal printers from dying ratshacks, you can have one for cost of postage ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'A US Marshals spokesperson told Motherboard in an email, "my colleague in Las Vegas says this was an FBI arrest. Mr. Hutchins is not in U.S. Marshals custody."'
asciilifeform: ... "I've spoken to the US Marshals again and they say they have no record of Marcus being in the system. At this point we've been trying to get in contact with Marcus for 18 hours and nobody knows where he's been taken," the person added. "We still don't know why Marcus has been arrested and now we have no idea where in the US he's been taken to' ☟︎
asciilifeform: lity, according to a close personal friend.
asciilifeform: 'On Wednesday, US authorities detained a researcher who goes by the handle MalwareTech, best known for stopping the spread of the WannaCry ransomware virus. ... At the time of writing it is not clear what charges, if any, Hutchins may face. Motherboard verified that a detainee called Marcus Hutchins, 23, was being held at the Henderson Detention Center in Nevada early on Thursday. A few hours after, Hutchins was moved to another faci
asciilifeform: and refuses to load the lul o' the day, https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ywp8k5/researcher-who-stopped-wannacry-ransomware-detained-in-us-after-def-con .
asciilifeform: it is ~perfect : 1) no way for enemy to unhappen logs short of burning the bldg 2) easy to scroll through, read 3) thermal paper burns great ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: if there were a hardware-only way of logging what traveled over that serial port, even better << i use a thermal printer for this
trinque: if there were a hardware-only way of logging what traveled over that serial port, even better. that'd be the audit trail instead of the OTP box's disk. ☟︎
trinque: ah probably string of command, since folks need to see what it is they've gotten an OTP for. at any rate, still not branch-causing.
trinque: otp box can be msdos over serial port, input parsing is trivial (key parameters, hash of command; so all numeric - none causing branching)
trinque: the otp part discussed here stands alone, though. a rather dumb piece of software can keep track of encrypted OTPs it dispatched, the corresponding command (which sits in the encrypted item), and when it got the OTP back.
trinque: I'm going to do a writeup when released, still putting it together.
asciilifeform: trinque: can you point me plz to the thread where it was described what your current item (walletbot) does ?