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the_scourge: asciilifeform: i get remapping caps and ctrl, but it still means you're having to combine keystrokes which is always painful to watch
trinque: I also have esc as right alt
the_scourge: trinque: thanks i'll try that
the_scourge: well i'm paying myself paternity leave coming up soon so i'll learn emacs. haven't had a chance for a bit of time in a while
the_scourge: i assumed it was poor design and useless academics who'd never had to do a hard day's work in their lives. perhaps it is a shit test?
the_scourge: 'Emacs actually comes with a builting Emacs Aptitude Test. Do you remap your keyboard or the Emacs keybindings before the chords and sequences it comes with by default have wreaked havoc with your hands? If you do not do anything to make Emacs more convenient for yourself, you may not have the prerequisite aptitude to use it productive.' (naggum, who else. http://www.xach.com/na < funny, that's one of the reason i've avoided ☟︎
the_scourge: no, sorry i wasn't bullshitting. i'm just trying to point out implementation vs architecture
the_scourge: you sound confident. what if i told you there was a psyc daemon implemented in 15 lines of common lisp? :)
the_scourge: there are a dozen i think. 2 of them named psycd
asciilifeform: if you recognize neither the words, nor where they apply here, i'm powerless to help.
the_scourge: asciilifeform: i don't know what 'things' are, and i don't know what philosophy means
the_scourge: "I estimate that 90-95% of the work in Plan 9 was directly or indirectly to honor externally imposed standards." < wow that is really sad... and ... is there a solution?
the_scourge: asciilifeform: can i get a blow by blow on what historical event was this allegorical thermonuclear war?
trinque: I recently mapped my f keys to load projects in emacs and appropriate window layouts in stumpwm
asciilifeform: when i explain to folks why i dislike programming on available systems, i sometimes use example that it is rather like being a fellow who likes gardening, but there was a thermonuclear war not long ago, and you gotta sift the soil with sapper's spade in one hand, geiger in the other, and there won't be much sunlight to be had either.
trinque: I'd put more money on asciilifeform being an emacs guy, but not because he likes emacs
the_scourge: asciilifeform: i'm not saying it's exorbant - just expressing dissapointment
the_scourge: actually i take it back, the problems here were probably not market-based, but more cultural (and lack of appropriate customers)
the_scourge: just when i was starting to think esr and rms didn't have a point. maybe they did
asciilifeform: when i bought - $5k usd.
the_scourge: oh, i thought it was just called genera
trinque: I've seen clojure/clojurescript, cl/parenscript, haskell/fey (and a few others)
trinque: what I'd like is a situation where I'm writing the same language in both a browser and on the server
trinque: I've considered trying just sbcl on one side and parenscript on the other
trinque: what I end up using has a lot to do with "what can I fart a website out in"
trinque: "I find Clojure revolting.
the_scourge: same thing here. i love playing the piano as loud as possible :D
the_scourge: asciilifeform: thanks. historically all i know about is really the AI lab stuff. i went through a phase where i read the jargon book and some more 'original' sources about the AI labs. but this was almost 20 years ago
the_scourge: personally i'm interested in one that hasn't been made yet
the_scourge: so, something minimal i guess? scheme is used for embedded stuff i've seen. guile is interesting just 'cause the gnu nix clone uses it
the_scourge: second, i'm REALLY REALLY interested in lisp machines
the_scourge: that mark tarver article really resonated with me. that pretty much described me to a T.. and still does. it's actually why i ended up doing non-STEM degrees: there is no lack of boredom when you're lost in a library
mircea_popescu: dude i really like this qntra thing. about 1/3 of what i hated about the obsolete press were mistakes. being able to go hey x, Y! makes me all fucking warm and fuzzy inside.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i've been looking into alternatives
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i distinctly recall seeing this figure here earlier
kakobrekla: prolly nobody cares but i just checked for fun whats the pogo cost in europe; its 55 dorra.
mircea_popescu: i guess it'd be sort of dress-rehearsal for systemd
mircea_popescu: i would imagine alsa is uncontroversially a massive failure on poettering's scoreboard.
asciilifeform: mr mold did not, last i heard, ever publish anything analogous to systemd
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what was the curtis yarvin brand of systemd called ? i forget ?
danielpbarron: i don't care how fast it boot since it shouldn't have to do that more than once (depending on the stability of your electric)
danielpbarron: i've noticed that it needs constant supervision, yes
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> danielpbarron: eventual goal, i dare say, is a fully-automated reflasher that drops in something sane. << quite
danielpbarron: i get the feeling they intentionally leave things out of their guides to force the user to figure it out
danielpbarron: yeh i'd like to use something other than arch but that's what i've figured out for now
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: eventual goal, i dare say, is a fully-automated reflasher that drops in something sane.
the_scourge: although a few things came up when i started looking into it that turned me off haskell
the_scourge: i'll have to look at the haskell implementation
the_scourge: did you do a writeup? i've grepped for such to no avail :(
the_scourge: no, i want critics, not fanboys
the_scourge: anywhere i can go to get some honest opinions on his work then?
the_scourge: if Qi is anything like nix, i would love it forever
the_scourge: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=69 < this summarizes nicely every smoke break rant i had at the junior devs onsite today
mircea_popescu: i wonder if one could kickstart an experimental vehicle for space vacuum filtration to extract gold and other rare metals.
the_scourge: um if we had no way to secure comms on the wild internet, where layers 1-4 can be listened to by demotists (i wouldn't mind if it was a monarch),
the_scourge: uh that's a wireless chip? i thought we're talking about cpu. i.e. mips
the_scourge: asciilifeform: that vocore was just crowdfunded recently. i think they fullfilled initial orders sometime in the past year. i didn't know they were mips!!
asciilifeform: aha i recall
mircea_popescu: oh i had some of them on display
trinque: mircea_popescu: right, I was saying the "visa is so speed" argument is bullshit
mircea_popescu: i once saw a flashlight based on this principle. a real bitch to charge << I once took a design class where this was a case study of "innovation" and "green" << as it should be. if i recall correctly the russian name is "labour & light"
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2014 17:38:27; assbot: Logged on 30-08-2014 16:11:44; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: 'coinbase insurance' post - little story. recently i had occasion to rent a box at a bank (storage of various paperwork for firm.) the contract was a hilarious read. bank only insures a box for up to 25k usd. and specifically excludes damage from robbery, fire, water... virtually anything.
assbot: Welcome to the future: Philips HUE iOS app crashes and they pulled the app. I can't control my lights anymore. Send help.
danielpbarron: i recall it taking just as long when i used bootstrap.dat
danielpbarron: i didn't think bandwidth was the bottleneck
danielpbarron: here is something strange: when i sent "getinfo" to the longer stuck node, it stapped out of it and started recieving new blocks again
danielpbarron: i'm ok with that if it's just until the 2nd catches up
danielpbarron: around the one that i posted above ^
danielpbarron: height=49141 and i'm getting lots of orphan spam, swap space is getting used now
the_scourge: asciilifeform: i take it the reference is to the 'hopelessly out of order' meaning, not the traditional definition?
danielpbarron: might be errors if you run that though; i haven't tested it since i cleaned it up to look nice
danielpbarron: you can see exactly how i built it here http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-build.sh.txt
danielpbarron: when i turn off my 1st pogo and let the 2nd talk to the rest of the network, it doesn't hang up on every 500th block; i guess there is some config variable that limits how many blocks to send to one peer per session?
danielpbarron: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_chain_download#Large_Catchup_Case << i think this is why it gets stuck every 500 blocks
punkman: I left my bike unlocked for three days, noticed today
asciilifeform: punkman: odd. i know of no car recent enough to come with a remote button, that doesn't beep/flash when locked/unlocked
punkman: I never thought of this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9KqynNIUAEj87i.jpg
trinque: even seven figure processing accounts I've seen take days to hit a bank account, or at least the next day
punkman: I gotta dig up that textbook, many lolz to be had
trinque: it's the fastest payment system I'm aware of when you consider the whole process
trinque: but I guess if we're talking "effectively" sure
punkman: i once saw a flashlight based on this principle. a real bitch to charge << I once took a design class where this was a case study of "innovation" and "green"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: engine where the piston was really just a magnet-bearing shuttle zipping back and forth through coils << i once saw a flashlight based on this principle. a real bitch to charge - much time and sore muscle spent in changing direction. but this would work beautifully for a liquid-piston stirling engine (see last night's thread).
danielpbarron: i got 2nd pogo running; it's using my own compiled bitcoind (porta tronic non bastard) and it's successfully pulling blocks from my other pogo (running ascii's porta-tronic bastard)
mircea_popescu: "she said get lost and if i never see you again it'll be soon enough. by get lost, of course, she meant let's snuggle and by never she meant she loves me!11"
mircea_popescu: that's right, i come from a country where you USED to have to be cool to be able to fuck most of the starlets on tv (prhaps with the show playing in the background, if so inclined). nowadays any schmuck with a coupla bitcoin can do it.
mircea_popescu: gee whiz, i dunno. joining some retards forum, i'm sure o.O
mircea_popescu: imagine that you know, if you had to run boeing with some engineers that went "oh, boeing makes planes actually ? gee i had no idea ty for clarifying"
mircea_popescu: i mean, if you remember this schmuck, he's the "mr bigg" shill mpoe-pr unmasked on the forum.
mircea_popescu: Now this is some serious investigative journalism. I even learned a few things!
mod6: this is what i need every morning. a good dose of solid lulz.
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk: [...] < I wish the banks around here knew what GPG/PGP was. << it's because i don't use actual banks, but the well developed argentine underground system.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell phillipsjk: Is html allowed in comments on your blog? << some limited html. blockquote, a and i dun recall what else.
phillipsjk: that reminds me, I should complain about that. Symbols were required, but did not include ,|^= and at least one number was required.
phillipsjk: mircea_popescu: well, you may not believe this or like this, but... my banking depends on my gpg signature o.O < I wish the banks around here knew what GPG/PGP was. The card-holder agreements universally say: "You acknowledge that e-mail is not secure..."
phillipsjk: ;;later tell mircea_popescu I enjoyed your latest blog post.
phillipsjk: I see a newbie got a "page topper" in Deathandtaxes's thread. (I was totally going to post a link) :)
phillipsjk: 6:35: "..For example..Mt.Gox.. I have a bad feeling about them"
phillipsjk: Apparently Bruce is mentioned in the thread I linked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FZldY-ZBBE
mircea_popescu: i wish i could remember the idiot's name, he was a reddit star for a season or two.