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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect it was a veiled laugh-to-the-bank
mircea_popescu: i can play with some kids for the cost of a car ride to the park, what's that do ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, am i the only one grated by just how much of a cop-out this "kids" thing became ? "oh, im going to play with my kids, which is to say you're OBLIGATED to believe my life has some sort of meaning".
asciilifeform: ( not even to mention the fact that -- rare, for a kochism -- the problem dun even exist in stock gpg, which defaulted to 2 subkeys, 1 for sigs and 1 for encipherments )
asciilifeform: ( come to think of it , i dun think i ever even saw a pgp sig of his coad turds.. )
mircea_popescu: anyway, satoshi did weigh in on the first "fork". back in 2015. http://trilema.com/2015/the-news-in-brief-hearn-is-a-shitstain-mp-is-right-fuck-reddit-love-satoshi/ has the details.
mircea_popescu: anyway. on a long enough time horizon all socialism aka militant stupidity converges. of course yarvin merges with ethertards, what's there to distinguish them besides historical accident (ie, the exact converse of timeline, the thing time washes out)
asciilifeform: or how about 'Long-term permanence means you can put your ship on a USB stick in a box for 50 years, or 100, or 500, and when you turn it on in a modern interpreter it will upgrade itself and work fine.' << upgrade itself!
asciilifeform: 'Urbit does not use the lambda calculus, an environment or symbol table, or linking. Because it pushes name resolution out of the fundamental interpreter and up into the language, it can play many more namespace juggling tricks. And its build system has no trouble including multiple versions of the same library.' << didjaknow this were a feature?!
asciilifeform: err, i can't resist a few monumental laffs :
asciilifeform: 'Nock, Hoon and Arvo didn't really rely on anything from 20th-century CS' << lol, aside from coupla GB of unix/c liquishit, and half a GB of ~own~ c liquishit..
asciilifeform: ox as well as it did for esr tho, his www already for year or 2 contains a begtron
asciilifeform: 'No one else ever built a purely functional operating system' incidentally also false, the haskell people tried ('house') , with the expected result ( i won't detail, literate reader can guess )
asciilifeform: i take a kind of perverse entomological interest in sad rsatrons. ( e.g.: bolix, interestingly, had a -- nonconstant time, of course -- bignum stack, but at least it was reasonably compact.. )
asciilifeform: 'A bunch went to contest winners who solved a trivial Nock problem in 2010.' << didjaknow, trivial
a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 22:27 mircea_popescu: how ~the fuck~ is "nock" gonna identify-and-replace-with-jets when ginko417 is manifestly incapable of the very same task ? (or rather, for they psychologically inclined : WHY is it ginko417 imagines dealing with a jet is "nock"'s job ?)
a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 22:09 mircea_popescu: but tbh, the "stochastic convergence test" seems to me worth A LOT more than any bs "ent" ultimately meaningless "squares of pi" bs.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 22:10 mircea_popescu: (ie, you can construct an infinity of rng strings which'll make a given sct "falsely" converge)
asciilifeform: ( 'paid' a weekend to solve that olympiad thing, was all )
mircea_popescu: for exquisite bonus lulz, "jet" is what a romanian speaking slut would say to a romanian speaking drunk moron in a romanian speaking bar, meaning "get the fuck lost".
mircea_popescu: how ~the fuck~ is "nock" gonna identify-and-replace-with-jets when ginko417 is manifestly incapable of the very same task ? (or rather, for they psychologically inclined : WHY is it ginko417 imagines dealing with a jet is "nock"'s job ?) ☟︎
mircea_popescu re-read the comment section, from back in 2013, chuckled at random moron who perceived he can write himself the option to not engage mp saying things at him because (some variant of) "they do not display the right formalism" right smack drab in the middle of a discussion about some magical means for ~machines~ to recognize equivalent-formalisms through... magic.
mircea_popescu: (ie, you can construct an infinity of rng strings which'll make a given sct "falsely" converge) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's a sort of m-r for rngs.
mircea_popescu: but tbh, the "stochastic convergence test" seems to me worth A LOT more than any bs "ent" ultimately meaningless "squares of pi" bs. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: that being said, i'd quite like a rk-like box with expandable rams. but it aint happening on the current budget.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 15:37 mircea_popescu: a) there's nothing wrong with specialisation (and especially if you figure out how to expand the ram -- which a stock of these gives you incentive to do, ie, specialisation drives competence) ;
asciilifeform: also a++
asciilifeform: a++
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: on contemplation, this is yet another place where rk utterly wins -- it is possible to include a very compact source of backup power, survive fairly long brown/black-outs
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i am thinking we oughta install a simple mains voltage logger (i've witnessed in the past, brownouts which took out 1 box ( where current load at the moment happened to exceed what's in the ps caps ) while leaving dozen others untouched.. )
a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 00:30 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in darkest lulzafrica, 'Today we’re happy to announce that Urbit’s address space, now called Azimuth, is live on the Ethereum blockchain... We want Urbit to be a reliable, durable, permanent computer that’s simple to use. Today Urbit is still a prototype, not a consumer product. But we’re making great progress'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in a quite hilarious conclusion to the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887012 saga : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-19775 << yarvin throws in the towel. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( in case it aint obvious , you gotta scale the #s, otherwise a even a 128bit multiplitron will take 'geological' time to output 1x1 )
asciilifeform: so in the end you can multiply e.g. 9000 8192bit ints, with a single gate.
asciilifeform: why to do this, may seem a mystery, until realize that noise immunity means that you can use very fast logic elements , given as you aren't much concerned with 100% accuracy over small time period, only convergence.
asciilifeform: then you feed'em all to a N-input AND gate.
asciilifeform: you represent the inputs ( any # of'em ) via stochasticizers, i.e. each 1 gets a comparator that eats N bits of rng and outputs a 1 if they represent integer <= the currently latched binary number, 0 otherwise.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in world of entomology, https://archive.is/bJyyo ( piece re 'douchebags', where '...their earnings are equally depressing. The top seven participants in the Facebook data set averaged 0.87 bugs per month, earning an average yearly salary of $34,255; slightly less than what a pest control worker makes in Mississippi.'
mircea_popescu: "here, whole conclave of morons ~can do absolutely nothing~". even if you lose money, you lose money in a way they're worth losing.
asciilifeform: ( in the empty skullcase of the orc king, somehow made sense to have a hired hand run his pgptron.. )
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is a Cristian Rodriguez anyway ?! might as well be schmuck mcsmith.
mircea_popescu: PART of the reason for 2nd para of http://qntra.net/2019/01/el-chapo-allegedly-used-voip-had-sysadmin-flipped-by-criminal-fbi/ ie guzman hiring an inane moron with a reddit account, is that guzman didn't have how to hire pizarro.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the first fucking move is to establish yourself as a domain expert.
asciilifeform: trinque has a point
BingoBoingo: It's a relief to get the Pizarro conversation going again instead of having it stuck in just my head
mircea_popescu: and sell it like things are sold, atm it's "just a rumour", mentioned here and there, drums up on the usual human-experience-exponential and so on. "anti-usg hosting", come up with some catchy.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This time, don't saw your toothbrush. I can put together a reception basket with human sized toothbrush.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo talk to the various webhosting forums etc (with whom you've build by now a relationship, yes ?) how much they want for a site takeover / w/e they do for the big deal advertising.
mircea_popescu: he has a point there.
asciilifeform: a pizarro-sponsored flight must carry max weight.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun think there will be such a thing as 'low stakes' trip, unless mod6 wants to take vacation on own coin
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> iirc mod6 has expressed a desire to fly the next crate. if he still wants, can haz; otherwise asciilifeform will fly it. << Given the ben_vulpes courier run I would like mod6's first trip here to be lower stakes. Couriering is a skill.
mircea_popescu: have a nice sale page, clearly communicate what's going on, drive to it. what do you have, like 6 weeks ?
asciilifeform: iirc mod6 has expressed a desire to fly the next crate. if he still wants, can haz; otherwise asciilifeform will fly it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: needless to say, a "we're flyting over 50 rks, gotta fill these THAT WEEK, giving everyone 50% off for 3 months" media event / webhosting forum takeover / etc is de rigueur.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: let's include a certain number of these.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: a rk + disk is about 100bux ea. << There's also a 4GB RAM model which would push the unit price up to ~150 each
mircea_popescu: i meant, pizarro made more money as a financial vehicle, exploiting fx rates, than as an operator.
mircea_popescu: a) there's nothing wrong with specialisation (and especially if you figure out how to expand the ram -- which a stock of these gives you incentive to do, ie, specialisation drives competence) ; ☟︎
asciilifeform: transport of crate aint exactly a mars mission, when we finally drum up demand and fill up the rk's, next crate can sail in short order.
asciilifeform: a 1u can comfortably house 16, per my latest model.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a rk + disk is about 100bux ea.
asciilifeform: it is also time to speak of the next crate. and the customary four cargo slots. 1 is to contain a replacement for uy1 ( and ideally will run cuntoo . ) 1 will contain a 1u that holds rk's. this gives 2 1u slots remaining, they can be occupied by colo passengers, if these stand up and wish to ride , or pizarro irons, at BingoBoingo's option. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: This sounds like a plan.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al : re uy1: if it continues humming along, as it presently appears to be, we gotta proclaim a maintenance window and properly stress test the thing, load cpu to max for coupla hrs
asciilifeform: i'm still at a loss re why nobody makes rk, or for that matter any arm box, with upgradeable rams
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'd like to hit the idle Rockchip with another round of contact cleaning first, but this sounds like a plan.
mircea_popescu: this is not even a bad idea, turn iffy situation itno "help drive rk adoption".
asciilifeform: indeed can, it's a quite substantial box despite appearances.
mircea_popescu: can a rk actually run all that ?!
hanbot: <asciilifeform> hanbot: when was 'this' plox ? << was my whim to start znc back up then after leaving it off for a ~day following http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-14#1886701 , no shenanigans implied. i suppose my wordchoice was unfortunate, sorry for alarms. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Aite, before I tuck in asciilifeform I'll gpggram you all the trivia observations from the weekend trips to the rack to digest with a rested brain.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: When you book your ticket expect more Spanish/Spanglish because I haven't had a sustained spoken conversation in English since early December.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma also sleep shortly, will letcha know if i wake up screaming with a wtf
asciilifeform: there's a list of itches that needs scratching and it got longer today.
asciilifeform: ( why needs gear ? because can flash even nao, but you want to get orig rom contents ~out~ 1st, for a good looking at. and then there is 'unbrick' event also. )
mircea_popescu: "we dunno wtf happened, i guess to a certain mind events centered on jan 13th suspicious as fuck, we have a new kernel and we redid the bios just in case, dunno what more can be possibly done" is, or atleast i guess will have to be, acceptable.
mircea_popescu: do you suppose bios could benefit from a reflash ? if nothing else, to have thermal / crash logging as expected ?
mircea_popescu: quite well snapped to the peculiar idiocy of a certain band of peculiar idiots.
asciilifeform: there's the 'what used for' q also. i'm still at a loss, i'll admit, re what is to be gained even from root on a box hosting blogs.
asciilifeform: i recall there was a piece where mircea_popescu threw out a raid card
asciilifeform: cuz that's a perfectly valid q.
asciilifeform: i thought we were discussing the outrageous howler that 'dc would warn if 1 box in a 42u has 1 chip 40c over temp'
mircea_popescu: there's a discrete flow of air from each rack that they measure.
mircea_popescu: same fucking thing is the case in ~every dc i eve rsaw, there's a line of sensors above the racks, and can tell whether box is working 30s, 40s or 70s
mircea_popescu: you ever been in one of those parking lots where they have devices telling you how many free spots per isle/level, and red/green light above the individual spots ? without, magically, having a rod up your driver's ass.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i ~also~ find it peculiar your dc wouldn't have alerted you in case of thermal trip. because in general they have sensors. << There was a ground fault alarm tripped in the datacenterś fire supression system over the weekend, but the time doesn's line up with the beginning of this reset crisis.
mircea_popescu: man. cpu doesn't overheat in a vacuum, gimme a break already.
asciilifeform: ( and if this wasn't part of the deal you had with'em, oughta have a stern talk )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if a dc were able to warn you re overheating cpu, they had root on yer box.
asciilifeform: aimed at what ? the outside ? you'd need a bomb calorimeter and whole thing in transformer oil, to stand any chance of distinguishing a frying cpu from a working one through closed chassis
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is an academic discussion. in any case, i've had warnings re hot boxes from dcs before, it's not a wholly unheard of item. laser sensor costs ~nothing, and hvac management is 60% of what they do for a living.
asciilifeform: ( and a cpu is a ~1g thermal mass. )
asciilifeform: an overheated cpu is only 50c away from a working one.
BingoBoingo: I took off a light layer of particulate. When I opened the chassis I found it matched the photos from when the FG were installed.
asciilifeform: what's the temp 1m from a hot iron ? ~room.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i did. let me tell you how it behaved : box went down. upon reboot it went down again, in the following manner : every time it was rebooted, within a finite time interval (bout an hour). no exceptions.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: never had a clogged fan on your watch ?
mircea_popescu: indulge me. so the theory goes that an event with a probability inferior to 1e-4 / day occured three times in two days ?