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furuknap: And they're also one share short of 600
% up from IPO.
furuknap: They'll still wait, like they waited until the 50
% dividend happened.
furuknap: I mean, most of the people that have been rushing the AM price these last couple of weeks have no idea how to value anything. They'll see a 43
% drop in dividends and freak out, realizing the beanstalk doesn't grow into the heavens.
furuknap: 5
% of current user base at Picostocks registered in past 24 hours. Wonder what they're buying...
furuknap: Hm... If roughly ฿45 buys at market now, asks will be at 110
% of what it was just a couple of days ago.
furuknap: Actualy, more than 40
% now that I look.
furuknap: 100TH jumped up this week, almost 40
%.
Bugpowder: So if we have paid in 110
% of this year, then we will be penalty proof next year. So I need to pay an extra 10
% this year of line 61.
Bugpowder: If you pay 110
% of the taxes that you paid for the last year, you are penalty proof on the next year even if the income really goes up.
dub: deepbit was over 50
% for ages
dub: jborkl: yeah, they could already be '51
%'ing now
Lizardbitcoin: that would put them firmly over 50
% invoking the dreaded 51
% fear auto sell mtgox bots
ll: 0
% network propagation too according to blockchain
ThickAsThieves: <ericmuyser> ThickAsThieves: so you paid out divs before you got paid? smart if so, but wonder how you knew the
% coming to you <<< yes, I just waited to learn the payout amount
ericmuyser: ThickAsThieves: so you paid out divs before you got paid? smart if so, but wonder how you knew the
% coming to you
parseval: God, TAT, people really try to put you through the ringer for that 5
% jcpham: i'll take the 70
% because idgaf and it's free money
jcpham: or 50
% now and 50
% in two years
jcpham: the lawyer's office is offering 70
% now
jcpham: but they can pay
%19.7 of the claim
fiat500: 1/1000PT with 50
% management fees
Chaang-Noi: fastcash is run by deathandtaxes its an awesome service, they charge 4
% spot however
b0n1: compared to 1
% SEPA, its really good price for high amount of withdrawal
Chaang-Noi: he has over 50
% of the stock anyway, not like we can do anything
Luke-Jr: oh, you mean the 5
% of my paid-in-full year-old order?
TradeFortress: 95
% of forum users won't change defaults through, so there is kinda a global rating.
burnside: ahhh, no, the 0.25
% fee is applied when the trade is executed.
fiat500: imagine the alternative, no scammers at all, every single fucking thing is 100
% legit
mircea_popescu: I ended up losing lots of BTC at BTCJam.com, thinking that loans are "safe". That's a holdover from the physical, regulated banking world. Not true here. I'm actually a fairly good judge of "character", so I didn't lose all, as I saw that many did there. But I did lose about 30
% of what I loaned out. The site itself is fairly good, but the "borrowers" are often not...
dub: mircea_popescu: lots of people that are stupid (99.9999999
% of bitcoin)
dub: I'm saying somewhere around 90
% of bitcointalk accoutns will be dupes/sockpuppets
dub: lets say conservatively 90
% of btctalk accoutns are sockies
fiat500: mircea_popescu: just to be picky, are they comparing
% diagnosed with
% "diagnosed and medicated"?
ThickAsThieves: my bet is that if all american children were tested that
% would rise dramatically
mircea_popescu: In the United States, at least 9
% of school-aged children have been diagnosed with ADHD, and are taking pharmaceutical medications. In France, the percentage of kids diagnosed and medicated for ADHD is less than .5
%.
DeaDTerra1: We will probably see a 20
% profit, which was very suprising :D
inhies: i only sold like 40
% and only because orders i had placed went through while i was out and about
mircea_popescu: afaik this was discussed in the forum fiat500. the blowout rate was like 30
%, making any interest under 5k pa or so a losing proposition.
fiat500: variable interest rate nets >70
% p.a
fiat500: b0n1: going rate on bfx is 0.02
%/day
ericmuyser: 200
% over 4 years, losing $90 (reduced gradually) on each monthly $140 payment. $4200 total
deadweasel: "MP's penance will be the the duration of his public insult + 20
%. He knows the math." <<< lulz
dub: its likely they could turn up >50
% fiat500: dub: im not talking about tomorrow, lets assume only 30
% of it ships
fiat500: they're only at 24
% right now, they could double and still not risk 51
% Chaaang-Noi: i dont know, im just a 5
% stock holder, i dont pick what happens
Chaaang-Noi: silver took a more than 5
% hit out the gate this morning, crazy
jurov: 150k shares within 1
% of price on both sides
Chaaang-Noi: i only hold AM and a bit of cognitive, about 5
% of cog
Chaaang-Noi: cool, im not 100
% it will work out, but its a nice hedge for your AM
fiat500: ThickAsThieves: lets say BFL rolls out enough hw that AM can roll out 100TH/s without risking control of >50
% furuknap: fiat: In bursts, maybe, but 0.036 represents mining 50
% of the network, so probably not long-term or on average.
Chaaang-Noi: your assumption that we will only get 10 to 15
% of the network over 3 years is silly
Chaaang-Noi: we are at 30
% of the network and sell off hardware, while having THs 1000 THs in the pipeline... you are using some bull shit 10
% number that was a guess 9 months ago...
furuknap: Chaang, at 2.0, the ROI is roughly 2
% per year, taking the halving effect info account.
furuknap: Chaang, it depends on how you evaluate risk. In my striclty personal opinion, I would evaluate a price between 1.3 and 1.5 to support my risk profile with a reasonable yield and expecting a network hash rate between 10 and 15
% on overage over five years.
ThickAsThieves: maybe his design strategy is to have chips at 400
% efficiency by then
Chaaang-Noi: there is no reason not to think AM can have 45
% of the network and still ahve sold 45
% of the hardware making up the other 55
% of the network.
ThickAsThieves: also Friedcat has commited to a 10
% minimum, no average
furuknap: But the stable income is not as high as people think it is. friedcat has said he expects 10
% on average. That correlates to around 0.006 per week. From that, you need to deduct the halving effect, which is 0.005, yielding 0.001 in real ROI.
truffles: furuknap if u wrote like this on the website i might read at least 50
% of it!!
ThickAsThieves: if i buy AM at 2, and it pays 10
% yield, and I sell it at 1.95, I have profited
ThickAsThieves: today we call an asset that pays 1
% divs monthly a dog
furuknap: Let's make a simple example. You can give me 10 coins now in escrow, and every year I will give you 1 coin in interest, thus yielding 10
% per year. However, after 4 years, your initial 10 coins will be reduced to 5 coins. Thus, the yield is not 10
%, it is negative 2.5
% because over four years, you're left with 9 coins.
mircea_popescu: just as long as i say something every 100 lines the noise is under 99
%.
jurov: bah. i know better ways to enjoy my
% of both bitcoin and its asset market than to make jerk of myself
ThickAsThieves: and ultimately decided i'd rather keep 100
% of my folio
Chaang-Noi: its just good advice, never to risk more than you can lose 100
% of
Chaang-Noi: but be careful, do not risk more than you are willing to lose 100
% of
furuknap: Yeah, killing by exceeding 51
%.
ThickAsThieves: it's not in their best interest to spike difficulty 20
% every round
ThickAsThieves: it involves selling hardware harder when they get too much net
% furuknap: Yeah, but you can't really plan past 50
%, can you?
furuknap: Here's one thing that slightly bothers me. AM still hasn't reached their 50 th yet. I'm confident they will. However, if they are just holding back for not reaching 50
%, that'll mean a whole lot of buzz when they do deploy additional hashing, despite the ratio of total not increasing by a percent.
parseval: BTC-TC will always fill the higher priced order first.. there's no way to choose which. So, the bots work the margins as long as they're at that .2
% difference or more