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mircea_popescu: what, all through 1995 - 2005 everyone "in lisp" sat around on their ass passing back and forth stories of how cool moon was in the 70s and how great gabriel's hairdo looks ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the lisp power rangers failed to lead the wave in implementing opengl correctly twenty years ago
☟︎ mircea_popescu: incidentally if things are this fucked up, the correct avenue would probably be to define a full gfx stack
☟︎ mircea_popescu: why not back in 1999 when opengl was not even taking over yet ?
mircea_popescu: "oh, i'm not like those suckers working at pretending haskell is a thing ... i'm better than them... i'ma do the same thing by myself!!!!1" herp.
mircea_popescu braces himself for "number theory is not really analysis and you're not doing REAL math, only we multiplying matrixes while polishing lenses are doing the real maths!"
mircea_popescu: see the discussion with cads on the topic two years ago. the for ~ANY~ thing is what's important there.
mircea_popescu: because nobody fucking sane actually thinks THAT is how you note down that thing.
mircea_popescu: actually... when it came time for the cantor proof, the "work hard" galz tried to copy the whole fucking matrix off the table, and this made a meme at the time
mircea_popescu: in fact, the eulora experience is very much in line with a lengthy personal history whereby very smart, well intentioned, patient people trying to cater to my shockingly insane whims and whines end up with exceptionally well crafted items that stand proudly on their own.
mircea_popescu: and don't tell me "oh i can not keep maps in head o noes"
mircea_popescu: and im not saying the gfx add-on is not helpful or w/e. but also not fucking mandatory.
mircea_popescu: not by any means all my doing. but the design is sane and yes, it does. she's currently making a map of resources in practically this.
mircea_popescu: looky : run diana_coman's bot, turn of the gfx altogether, it's 100% bash
mircea_popescu: you don't have to run the graphical client! for all it cares you can talk to it by hand.
mircea_popescu: but be all this as it may, for as long as gossipd.pop | print yields ((1,2),(2,3)) for me while gossipd.pop | mathgraph yields whatever ascii wants it to yield, we're happy.
mircea_popescu: jurov there's a difference between a proper existing ast, such as we have with words, unless we're idiots ; and a random gcc barf product.
mircea_popescu: so then we basically are happy with an alphabet of ~100 ish characters and that's that.
mircea_popescu: jurov the later is actually part of the graph. i can not meaningfully search for a motherfucking dot.
mircea_popescu: if you expect to have a [ that scales to lines, we got a problem. there's not going to be any 244/245/179 bs
mircea_popescu: as long as what we do is we take ((1,2),(2,3)) and either print it as such or else draw it for your benefit as seen there, if you run a plug in everyone's happy.
mircea_popescu: ~= equivalent to all the rest of the us pulp, call it hubbard and send it home.
mircea_popescu: the complete meaning of star warsa can be conveyed in two lines.
mircea_popescu: that i can see the complete meaning in plain text whenever i opt to not run whatever program.
mircea_popescu: which is what started this entire discussion : pdf does not degrade gracefully
mircea_popescu: nothing, as long as you don't expect me to run the program
mircea_popescu: do you understand that your computer is broken by design for as long as you allow the conceptual possibility of adding symbols ?
mircea_popescu: not even. it's just that i'm so allergic to "dynamically linked" bullshit that i barf at the very notion of a computing system that might need "expansions" because people don't want ot learn to read and write
mircea_popescu: for some reason most of my barbarian friends seem to prefer it!
mircea_popescu: it's not only unspecified, it's also... unusable by a machine. because who the fuck knows when you'll feel the need for colored unicodemen
mircea_popescu: what's the difference between the forty and the sixty pixel tall long line with the little vertical ends ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag you know that thing as displayed is actually meaningless.
mircea_popescu: and the argument that it "beats words" is not unlike the argument that clang "beats lisp" because "apple ipad!!11"
mircea_popescu: "kinda most of the stuff except what we don't understand"
mircea_popescu: currently what alf counts as "notation" for math is roughly speaking a sort of c++
mircea_popescu: no, it was whether we'll be supporting anything but ascii
mircea_popescu: chief among those ways, teach them how to thing properly and watch them lose interest and move on
mircea_popescu: actually... the motorbike dudes moved into heavy industry in the 90s
mircea_popescu: yeah, but these tiny things here discussed seemed more like chainsaw than turbojet.
mircea_popescu: it's almost like "being a usg subject gives you stability for free"