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Naphex: !rate fluffypony 2 Riccardo Spagni of #b-a/monero. Responsible for OpenAlias which kicks ass
Naphex: !rate fluffypony 2 Riccardo Spagni of #b-a/monero. Responsible for OpenAlias which kicks ass
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williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111640 <<< To the layman it seems they would be different. Assuming you're a fairly boring person as far as you're concerned dollars are pretty fungible (obviously not entirely and dependent on payment system), but they're not even close to non-discriminatory. I guess the difference IMO is between 1 btc = 1 btc, and anyone and everyone being able to have 'a ☝︎
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111529 <<< if it's a set you still need to stitch them together ☝︎
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mircea_popescu: now do me a personal favour and ditch that retarded disqus thing
jayk: mirc...you are different...a romanian charlie sheen
jayk: it ain't ideal, but would you turn it down with a lesbian?
cazalla: what a fucking scam hollywood has going with the idea that sex on the beach is hawt
jayk: she was dating my ex-gf's sister and had never been with a man, and told me she had never seen a penis before
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kavorka | (Pronounced Kah-vor-kah) The Kavorka is a word which originated from the Latvian Orthodox. It means "the lure of the animal". It is described as a curse, making ...
mircea_popescu: cazalla it's a thing, greece has > 9k islands, about half of them have a church on
mircea_popescu: jayk so how did she know she was a lesbian ?
mircea_popescu: "Unfortunately unlike Bitcoin there is no reputation Trezor." << a) trezor's kinda dysfunctional/derpy ; b) of course there is. airgapped gpg. ☟︎
jayk: my ex-gf's sister's gf had never seen a penis before
jayk: its generally not difficult to bum some action off a lesbian
jayk: that's a good reason to go to a gay bar with your hot gf
mircea_popescu: so she removes her top (was a knotted square thing) and puts it on her head.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne "inheritence" that takes an a, and moreover, the entire "transfer reputation" thing is muddied at best.
cazalla: jayk, i get the bandana, free bird shit but c'mon, take hat/bandana off in a casino or any establishment for that manner
jayk: look like a duck farmer?
mircea_popescu: you don't really look like you have any business in a casino...
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jayk: i was in a casino with a bandana and i was asked to leave because i appeared to be a frightening gang member
mircea_popescu: "Be suspicious of pedestrians when you pull up to a house. Don't open your car door if people are nearby." ☟︎
jayk: there's a website for them
mircea_popescu: jayk you mean renting hash power ? that was never a good deal.
jayk: is it worth throwing any money at a mining pool these days with bitcoin being flat?
mircea_popescu: i would suspect maybe trustless is a misnomer. trust is not involved at all, the point is coherence. the system remains coherent, which is to say it does not fork into ambiguous states.
mike_c: cazalla: he got three things in a row without crashing. He's better than all the scoopbots combined :)
cazalla: made a irl scoopbot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C21PhQU6tjg (every parent thinks their kid is the smartest but i think this is good for 15 months)
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 01:43:24; williamdunne: Anyone know a decent footnotes plugin for WP?
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 00:57:29; Naphex: trinque: that's airgapped gpg. you can implement gpg all over. Not sure how much airgapping it helps. A lot of sidechannel attacks comming up nowadays that can grab keys
trinque: way better than a piddly ec2 micro/small/medium instance eh? ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: the one consumer crud item which (i am told) behaves in a similar way is - diamonds.
asciilifeform: but back to the machines, because i consider this a mega-educational moment - there are countless instruments where you can pay, e.g., 10k on 'ebay' but you can also pay 800k if you want new, with support contract, for the mandatory softs to not be considered pirated, etc., etc., (most of this is strictly usg)
asciilifeform: there would be a 300 usd bmw if a) 500 people knew of bmw b) machine could only be driven on 100 particular race courses c) by a ph.d. or equiv. d) running on virgin piss
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 23:21:58; asciilifeform: i mention it because i can imagine a world where such clocks are considered not only acceptable, but 'state of the art' and 'best practice'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111123 << to round off that thread, it appears that a secondhand instrument of that type can be had for 10-20k usd, where i live. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111057 << floating point's just a convention, right ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: (scene where he is holding a bad of own shit)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you got a blog neh ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> nature's criterion of 'works' and mine << nature's cheaper. you might not get a voice.
gabriel_laddel B.A.D (bitcoin-assets distro) update #1, I just finished rewriting mozrepl in parenscript. Now to cut out extra crud.
asciilifeform: partly because it makes a convincing simulacrum of problem-solving, as (per naggum) hollywood special effects 'may as well be the real thing'
asciilifeform: for a variety of reasons
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: it is a mistake to describe perl as 'based on' anything in particular. it is soup, consisting of the entire contents of a crashed delivery van. soup reflective of what is to be found in the author's skullcase.
gabriel_laddel: While we're here, I'll note that being tied to text (perl) is quite limiting. On CLIM today I can tell any object how to "present" itself, i.e., how to draw itself on the screen. Such a thing is unthinkable in a language based around regexes.
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asciilifeform: one observation of mine is that the abstraction that most determines the shape of a program is
gabriel_laddel: not only that - you /must/ have a simple parsing algorithm, else upgrades are a bitch
trinque: it's a wonder I can hit the toilet with my ass ☟︎
trinque: yeah, and I went to a school that did C++ and Java, and dropped out of that
trinque: and a few months in I'm pretty sure it has goddamn everything, so to speak
trinque: I was for example shocked to find an object system in CL as a layman
trinque: perl's an interface to a handful of problems, ignores other things
trinque: but you could then go "oh but this is not a general interface with concepts applicable to any UI"
asciilifeform: trinque: this is not a difficult standard to achieve
asciilifeform: i just can't help but recall kreinin's piece re: how folks who are asking for meat-like architecture 'whether they want a tool, or electronic best friend or sex partner' and asked whether 'they had tried the selection of naturally-occurring ones first'
trinque: mircea_popescu: right, so we're talking about the difference between systems which try to be general solutions to (not sure how to articulate it) vs specific tools which live in a given niche?
trinque: I wonder if we'd have done the one with the afterburner having never seen a bird
mircea_popescu: anyway i should like to see a schizo computer.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... there must be a reason for this. << same reason eagle doesn't have jet with afterburner in his arse
mircea_popescu: trinque consider the ridiculous happenstance that all foeti have a god damned lizard tail two weeks in.
asciilifeform: seems like we've achieved a great many of these, in the computer...
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs. << i must confess, that i am at a loss as to which aspects of meat we should like to replicate in machines: intransigence? toe fungus? pneumonia? schizophrenia? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trinque the main problem here is that for a large number of solid considerations, lisp would actually be a much better choice. moreover, the space alf referred to is indeed vast, but the processes narrow. in many spots the whole tree converges to a very very narrow bottleneck.
trinque: mircea_popescu: seems like systems where there are a variety of ways to solve problems accept that they don't know the "perfect" way, if there is one
decimation: yucca mountain was a terrible idea, in the sense that storing nuclear waste instead of recycling it into fissile Pu is retarded
mircea_popescu: but even if there isn't a reason for this : it's so deeply baked into the structure of the world, you'll never be free of it.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel this is a very minor point. the chief point, still standing, is that cunts still run on perl. there must be a reason for this.
gabriel_laddel: this conversation is going in the direction of "heat death of the universe" so I'll note that companies that use e.g., scala have to hire a lot of people to regin in the complexity inherrent in ALGOL.
mircea_popescu gets a "so ?" gold on black cardboard card
gabriel_laddel: so they waste a lot of effort doing it.
gabriel_laddel: my first pass at a definition for a string: A string is a collection of characters from an alphabet.
mircea_popescu: how do you define a string ?
gabriel_laddel: I wouldn't dare draw that equivalence without agreeing on a formal definition for regexes and the process in question.
mircea_popescu: so you dispute that there's ready biologic equivalents of a regexp match ?
mircea_popescu: (and if it were so well specified, we'd prolly know a lot more of it than we do)
mircea_popescu: take the simple fact that erycridine lactate induces abortion in any trimester, and without exception. if this isn't a regex gone wrong, what is ?
gabriel_laddel: which means that as long as you live, you will not live in a clean world. << select portions of humanity have, to varying degrees created "clean" computing.
gabriel_laddel: It doesn't run on "perl" "perl" is a well specified computer program. Meat runs another separate well specified meat program.
mircea_popescu: which means that as long as you live, you will not live in a clean world.
mircea_popescu: generally when an analogy need not enter into a conversation, it's a sign the conversation's broken.
gabriel_laddel: This conversation bothers me. We don't understand how to make dragonflies, nor how the reproductive system works. We know how to write computer programs that work - the failing to do the latter correctly is a human failing.
mircea_popescu: that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, idea is that some people who can't even make dragonfly are in a weak position to teach grandmother to suck eggs, as it were.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: basic idea, perhaps, is that systems designed 'step at a time' by 'practical types' without any clear line of reason - will converge to resemble meat.
mircea_popescu: many more similarities (like a pointed lack of sexprs), but let's keep it simple
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is, you can measure a lot about a pregnancy.,
asciilifeform tries to picture a variant where 'where, why' is accessible
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard from what i see (and from what i know of these systems) there's periodically going to be a beheading.
gabriel_laddel: I've had sex with a female if that's what you're asking.
Pierre_Rochard: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111248 < my former employer, was a great firm pre-1930, now just an extension of USG ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'certain languages support serious programmers, and others don't. e.g., I don't think it is at all possible to become a serious programmer using Visual Basic or Perl. if you think hard about what Perl code will do on the borders of the known input space, your head will explode. if you write Perl code to handle input problems gracefully, your programs will become gargantuan: the normal failure mode is to terminate with no id ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: About this "don't feed raw data into your app" and "filtering" nonsense - if you're using a language that isn't complete shit you never need to "filter data" (just communicate in sexprs and (let* ((*read-eval* nil)) ...))
mircea_popescu: dja see where there's a lot more room for documentation ?