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asciilifeform: so far all i see of subj is 'unknown derp , switched to tor, NOW HE'LL SHOW'EM ' etc
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-08-12 20:28 ben_about: car mowdown very much in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-12#1697197
ben_vulpes: (http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-8-12#181354 << was me, btw, forgot to say until now)
BingoBoingo: Well, the "unknown location" bsns smells of stoogery
asciilifeform: if there were some ameritards that DIDN'T sum to 0, from waco to oregon to fuckingbmore to wherever -- i'd like to hear about this
asciilifeform: yes but why to care
BingoBoingo: From wonkypedia >> "Anglin's location is not known. An investigative article by The Huffington Post in November 2016 analyzed his social media and FBI sources, and concluded that he was living in Germany. Rumors have also placed him residing in Russia.[8] In July 2017 Anglin told CNN he was residing in Lagos, Nigeria.[12]"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty
asciilifeform: at any rate, i'm not sold on the 2^n thing as of yet -- it doesn't seem to win at all, other than (possibly) on readability
mod6 goes off to read the latest ffa update,
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: do you have a link to the pantsuit dns-dekulakization of the 'alt right' people ? i can't be arsed to wade through the sewers to find the orig subj << Here's one https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/shunned-by-godaddy-and-google-racist-daily-stormer-moves-to-russian-domain/
asciilifeform: ( and it will spend a somewhat larger portion of time pushing zeroes around )
asciilifeform: it doesn't impact the type of key you can use !!
mod6: ah, sorry to conflate, yes. width.
shinohai: But latest trilema states: " 2048 keys are too short. 8192 keys are too long. Keys of a length that's not a power of two are no good. RSA keys are 4096 bits and that's the end of the story."
asciilifeform: we aren't even speaking of the key here !
mod6: make sense. i personally kinda like the idea that a user can generate a key, that must be 2^n, that is all.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-15 21:41 asciilifeform: and this also means as few 'magic numbers' as it is physically possible to get away with.
asciilifeform: ( recall the 5.56mm thread )
mod6: asciilifeform: ok. just was more curious than anything if we're still flexible here.
asciilifeform: imho using anything less than the longest rsa key you can physically get away with on the hardware of your time, is simply nonsensical -- like using smaller bullet on enemy than you strictly must
asciilifeform: mod6: i'm partial to 8192.
mod6: my question is then; with regards to the tmsr-rsa rough-sketch spec, do we then entertain the idea of other key-lengths, no just 4096 as currently outlined? ☟︎
asciilifeform: mod6: it was supposed to be an automatic win, peformancewise
a111: Logged on 2017-04-26 16:05 phf: gprof interrupts the program every few ms and saves the backtrace, the whole family is called "sampling profilers" because it only knows of functions that it saw during the interrupt. functions with runtime < interrupt ms show up with wrong estimates
mod6: hmm. so let's say, for instance, that you figure out how to make the 2^n version the same as the 64 width classic version -- performance-wise.
asciilifeform: in fact it is difficult to think of a more malignantly inept piece of everyday gcc userland, than gprof
asciilifeform: and i've found gprof entirely useless in answering the q of why.
asciilifeform: mod6: interestingly, this ver is ~slower~ ( by about 3% ) than the 'classical'
mod6: asciilifeform: thanks for posting
asciilifeform: ^ similar mechanisms are moved to sit near one another, such that fewer 'brain cycles' are spent
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do you have a link to the pantsuit dns-dekulakization of the 'alt right' people ? i can't be arsed to wade through the sewers to find the orig subj
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1698809 << hitler is entirely central to the post-1945 'world order' , far more so than he ever was to own attempted empire ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-16 07:49 mircea_popescu: i expect the probloem with "nazi" is cachet. so much hurr durr-ing has been invested into the whole "nazi=bad" that the "nazi=important" angle is bound to be used by some schmuck trying to "make it up there fast".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1698807 << 'root password to the constitution' or what was it the '90s schmucks said ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( consider, why was ru awash in moo-moos to begin with ? )
a111: Logged on 2017-08-16 07:46 mircea_popescu: there's nothing there to learn, in this sense. if you got a bunch of ideologically-coherent tards that are out of touch with reality, be them pantsuits in 2017 us or peasants in 1917 russia you bring out the biofermenters. there's nothing else, misalligned ideological coherence is === biofermenters.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1698804 << cheap and continuous hygiene is a fine alternative to grandiose and very expensive periodic exterminator calls ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-16 07:41 mircea_popescu: the only problem with rthis view being that there's no such thing as "evils of the past".
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F1ED5F9D4B2AF299C23329206CB58D4C01D46AB6B49CE687D609BE1E707B0745 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 3106...8249 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '41.178.64.153 (ssh-rsa key from 41.178.64.153 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown EG)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E17BC3E38DABD1C91A27D226FC57B2ACFEB88E913F4D218985717FDD514FB934 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2974...8743 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '123.16.255.60 (ssh-rsa key from 123.16.255.60 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (static.vnpt.vn. VN 64)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4CA047A1DC3B4DD0A2254C9274AB5B4A4B5AECD404AE95EEEE0DE227113F35E1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2974...8743 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '94.230.125.74 (ssh-rsa key from 94.230.125.74 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (840.rt-barnaul-02.dianet.ru. RU)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F1ED5F9D4B2AF299C23329206CB58D4C01D46AB6B49CE687D609BE1E707B0745 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2974...8743 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '41.178.64.153 (ssh-rsa key from 41.178.64.153 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown EG)
shinohai: Good morning, #trilema. This is a reminder that all sluts should have their annual asshole sounding performed: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHUIkTwXUAQnj4Q.jpg ☟︎
BingoBoingo: AHA, A stalin need plenty of fuel to burn
BingoBoingo: Pointedly NOT great, but... can't extinguish all the refus
BingoBoingo: Well, it's "white trash" identity and NOT nazi for a reason
mircea_popescu: teh original nazis were all about will-to-live and so on. usians want to eat, and to not hurt. there's snails with stronger libidos, and a people happy to build mcmansions privately and the brutalist abominations publicly can't possibly have any serious investment in ontology.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that there doesn't seem any genuine desire to exist.
BingoBoingo: Right. Hence the USG cartoon pencil used by sanctioned stooges. There's always more mortuary brass. Still for the actually deciding to be dissident there's a little bit of identity to hook into http://qntra.net/2017/07/us-entertainer-kid-rock-takes-aim-at-pantsuit-senators-job/
mircea_popescu firmly believes that "mortuary homes" or however you call the things are pretty much the definitive illustriation of north american native taste. there's square miles of the things somewhere in mass, totally worth a field trip.
mircea_popescu: really, there's no more connection between the two than between some illyrian woman raped on a riverbank two centuries ago and then given a pair of earrings and the boyfriend-girlfriend couple of today who made "passionate love" after finding the same pair of earrings and adorning her with them.
mircea_popescu: let's for isntance compare the tired victorian-baroque that'd pass for "Grand Style" if you could get them to sit still enough to consider aesthetics to the very german art deco that actual nazism was all about.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, usians are about as nazi as they're aztec. or hittite. srsly now, there's 0 relation.
BingoBoingo: Eh, it doesn't really have the "Identity Politics" click with rural palefaces that "ThugLyfe" has for the other side.
mircea_popescu: this is the problem with advertising, it doesn't matter what you say at all, just that you say it lots.
mircea_popescu: i expect the probloem with "nazi" is cachet. so much hurr durr-ing has been invested into the whole "nazi=bad" that the "nazi=important" angle is bound to be used by some schmuck trying to "make it up there fast". ☟︎
BingoBoingo: And WTF is this German Nazi fixation USG stooges keep trying to sell through their COINTELPROs? What's wrong with Redneck Pride? (other than appealing to the market?)
mircea_popescu: not even a matter of "avoidable", they're THE SAME THING.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing there to learn, in this sense. if you got a bunch of ideologically-coherent tards that are out of touch with reality, be them pantsuits in 2017 us or peasants in 1917 russia you bring out the biofermenters. there's nothing else, misalligned ideological coherence is === biofermenters. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so no, the need to beat, kill, maim, rape, the NEED to violence ain't going fucking away just because naggum gave himself hypermetropia.
mircea_popescu: and all this "learning" bullshit. you can spend the rest of your life at the new york public library, you'll never manage to "learn" yourself into this position whereby sticking your cock into whatever woman you choose won't produce a random kid come out nine months later.
BingoBoingo: 5 Cents to the Dollar!
mircea_popescu: the "evils of the past" are by turns the scalpel, the chisel, the enema bag... the patient doesn't need the scalpel yet so it's evil of the past. then later needs it, no longer needs the enema, now THAT is evil of the past. on it goes.
BingoBoingo: Just evils of the "past expiration date" related to the Oldgendered
mircea_popescu: stalin is the mechanism whereby you turn a herd of dumbass hervbivores into a smaller, leaner, industrial nation. yes it comes right out of the peasants' famine duh. where the fuck is it going to come out of, outer space ? bacon meteors from the kuipier belt, nice and crispy by the time they land ?
mircea_popescu: the only problem with rthis view being that there's no such thing as "evils of the past". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: vils with new names as the only difference just because some _morons_ can’t learn from the past."
mircea_popescu: "the only _important_ property of evils of the past is that they not be repeated in the future, in any way, shape, or form. by refusing to accept humor about past evils, you lend them an importance they do not deserve and which will ultimately destroy your _own_ future, while those of us who can distinguish what we learn from the lessons where we learn it, can hope to find a future that doesn’t need to have reruns of past e
mircea_popescu: now i'm re-reading alf's curation of naggum, and the last item there is...
mircea_popescu is very much unconvinced ANY usian "dissidents", "alt right", "nazi" or whatever else would last five minutes after costco cancels their cable subscription or w/e.
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, the motherfuckers will do the whole "I r dissident" song and dance, playing into the USG cartoon image of Nazis. BUT they refuse to extricate themselves from Actual Spyops like Coinbase.
BingoBoingo: Well, Monday it came out that the organizer of the Charlottesville rally was a Obama voter and BernieBro until a week after Trump was elected. They are fungible!
mircea_popescu: for the same money as confusing bitcoin and usglade i might confuse andrew anglin for michael moore.
mircea_popescu: use coinbase, derp about bitcoin. then i'm supposed to distinguish these yokels from any other yokels because why the fuck, their mommy dropped them on their head in a very special way or something ?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell cazalla tyvm, but stahp trying to do the email thing. Textpast and !~later tell like a normal person. Email doesn't work better than 60% reliable anymore.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5BEFD0E92BFE1675D28A97B03E2B8EC76840F1CD640FAC1CC06EA3CFD3F75147 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1641...9043 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '79.174.66.34 (ssh-rsa key from 79.174.66.34 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (4422.ovz-ssd8.hc.ru. RU)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/5BEFD0E92BFE1675D28A97B03E2B8EC76840F1CD640FAC1CC06EA3CFD3F75147 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1600...6519 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '79.174.66.34 (ssh-rsa key from 79.174.66.34 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (4422.ovz-ssd8.hc.ru. RU)
jhvh1: mod6: The operation succeeded.
mod6: !~later tell mike_c hmm, ok thanks, we'll work through it.
mike_c: try again tomorrow.
mike_c: and it's not there.
mike_c: gah. well, that's it for tonight.. now it *is* looking for that:
mod6: ubuntu and it's hanging chads, i know the pain.
mod6: ok, well feel free to reach out to me when you're ready to try again, even if not today. i'll be here.
mod6: heh, ok, sorry for the pain.
mike_c: so now I burn this server to the ground and start over. ☟︎
mike_c: ah, failed again, but this time in helpful manner
mike_c: certainly, thanks for the help!
mod6: ok, that's correct.
mod6: there should be a Manifest.sha512 in tehre too.
mike_c: after the clean, still Makefile in deps
mod6: not the extracted stuff or anything else.
mod6: yeah, we just need the deeds.
mike_c: there's a bunch of stuff in there. I'll just grab the .asc though.
mod6: we can pick this up later if you'd rather too. no worries.
mod6: you can try, but it may not help. i'd suggest starting clean from a failed build.
mike_c: any use in trying incremental before that?
mike_c: ugh. that's a 45 minute penalty..