16900+ entries in 0.026s
mod6: awe crap, sorry my manifest file is in the list.
mod6: ./v.pl p v rotor/TEST2 asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch
mod6: with V [v99996] pressed out cleanly when:
mod6: ok compiled cleanly.
mod6: if this works, i'll do a clean and then grab the file hashes.
mod6: ok pressed out & compiling...
mod6: for the sake of this test, i'll just rename these in my .seals dir as they should be.
mod6: ok do i understand this right? (i haven't done this since before the re-bake of tinyscheme)
mod6: i can take a look, give me a few.
mod6: also, hehe, i downloaded this scheme interpreter to play with on my phone.
mod6: i'd like to get this into "battle-ready" shape once and for all.
☟︎ mod6: aside from the sync/mirrors/init stuff?
mod6: asciilifeform: while i'm on the subject (and anyone else for that matter): is there anything else that should be excised from the current V [v99996] ?
mod6: actually, it might just elimiate a bunch of tests.
mod6: i gotta re-write a lot of automated tests and stuff too.
mod6: so -- i might need several weeks at min to test out v99995 of V
☟︎ mod6: i just haven't focused on that part as much for obv reasons.
mod6: alright, fwiw, it does work. could use some more colorization and attention to details like you and Mr. P. have suggested.
mod6: is it worthwhile to rip out my graphing stuff out of V?
☟︎ mod6: and seems to work ok... but i'll hvae to test this quite a bit.
mod6: and it eliminates at least 167 lines of code.
mod6: ok, well i did just rip out all the sync/init/mirrors parts of V
☟︎☟︎ mod6: alright, thanks, let us know.
mod6: it doens't take long to pass that spot anyway.
mod6: i would 100% start over, including in your .bitcoin dir.
mod6: TomServo: hey! did you ever get unwedged?
mod6: not sure i follow there, what'd be the techincal purpose of that?
mod6: i guess v99995 could rip all that stuff out. certainly would condense the code a bit.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> why the hell not ? << because i tried to kinda sorta do this already... buildroot is hardcoded to download (rsync) all of its deps and stuff it needs from net. we'd have to "hack" our own buildroot.
mod6: oh yeah, and i remember now...
mod6: maybe in 6 months to a year, then we'll be in a spot where it's in a more hardened form. takes some time, and people using it to flush some of the shit out.
mod6: and that's basically because it's not "ready" per-se.
mod6: someone asked me why I don't create vpatches of the changes to V.
mod6: we're totally not going to do that btw.
mod6: ben_vulpes: heheh. its more like: here's the source code, see what you can do with this. unless .1, then you can have CD and volla!
mod6: ok, we can revisit this next week.
mod6: the whole thing maybe lol.
mod6: yeah... there's a handful. i dunno, makes me nervous.
mod6: just a lot of 'em .
mod6: not only with the makefiles, but are we actually thinking about distributing all the deps ON CD?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> in fact i think it ought to be abolished and replaced with pressed silver cd. << im not sure how to build this excatly. this is part of what we wanna talk about next week.
mod6: i use the built thing to test my code changes and other config changes.
mod6: but, i typically don't hack straight on the built trb, ususally on a separate branch.
mod6: i just re-read what I typed there (sorry, just woke up, slept like the dead), and i don't mean to make it sound like a single line, even if sometimes it is! i just make the changes i need, the most minimal changes possible, then drop 'em in and see.
mod6: i do a lot of testing etc. often if I'm actually going to change a line of code, i'll press out a seperate branch call it 'foo', go in there copy a & b, then make changes in b. make a vpatch. drop it in my live bitcoin branch, rebuild with the rotor. bunch of stuff.
☟︎ mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6 and trinque as well << hacking the codebase? << I just build the statically linked bin with rotor via the build-bitcoind script that everyone uses.
mod6: i'll have to check it out. thanks for letting me know.
mod6: oh, defect i guess?
mod6: ok, let's pick it back up in the morning. night!
mod6: If not, tomorrow is fine too. Just want to ensure that we take a look at what might be going on there.
mod6: if you're around tonight, i'd like to walk through some steps.
mod6: Well, you may have not have `mucked' anything up. Perhaps we can walk through this a bit.
mod6: "sound money is better than anything you've got"
mod6: this, like shinohai said, is different because people want it.
mod6: lol, ive actually worked at a lot of places. it's totally different. people go there to get paid so they can continue buying shit they don't need and eating food that isn't food.
mod6: seeing us pull together and get problems solved, warms my heart.
mod6: in typical US work environment, its mainly a lot of "oh, that's not my problem... talk to so and so..."
mod6: people in here ~care~ about problems. they wanna pitch in and help and make things better.
mod6: you know something that is a lot different participating in TMSR as opposed to any other place i've worked at?
mod6: yah, shinohai that's be super helpful.
mod6: hey hey, there you go bud.
mod6: sure. that makes some sense. if it reduces confusion, i think its positive.
mod6: hmm. i'd feel like that maybe that's a bit sticky incase IPs change or what not -- maybe an addition to the wiki would be a better place to start there?
mod6: shinohai: you use the conf file quite a bit right? does it seem to work "as expected" ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: I believe they should.
mod6: shinohai: wow. perhaps, it's not a horrible idea to look at a hosted solution instead of saturating your home conn.
mod6: give 'em hell, shinohai
mod6: Thanks for doing so! That's awesome.
mod6: Couldn't have been possible without all of you.
mod6: mircea_popescu: that's great! very nice progress indeed.
mod6: ok, on that note then; we've got myself, shinohai, bitcoin_pete, hanbot, Mr. P. and who am i forgetting that have built v99996 build script -- i'd say let's put it in deed bot and update the wiki.
mod6: Thanks for the feedback. :]
mod6: wow, hanbot. congrats!
mod6: then make a backup (for those who haven't)
mod6: ya, i agree with that when sync'ing up. get a verified chain from a trusted node.
mod6: running -verifyall ?
mod6: just dial: 1888-MOD-6HLP
mod6: hmm. perhaps he has something environmental going on. be interesting to get to the bottom of that mystery.
mod6: yah, looks good to me. very good.