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jurov: guess i'll end up with that.
jurov: 🚽 🚾 wtf there are two? i'd say one is supposed to have lid open and other one closed, but that's not what standard says
mike_c: Yeah. listed Oct. 13, i think first post was like a week earlier
mike_c: not that i am masterminding the conspiracy
mike_c: i only count s.*
mats: i love a good conspiracy
cazalla: so when did vessenes become involved in the foundation, from what i'm reading, it was gavin that floated and promoted the idea of it back in october 2011 (piecing together some history as suggested by.. who, i forget)
mircea_popescu: "When reading, keep in mind that I have so many conflicts of interest that I have conflicts in places where other people don’t even have interests."
mircea_popescu: http://reactionwheel.net/2015/01/80s-vc.html << well documented stuff, i'd love to see him writing for qntra
ben_vulpes: i don't know, man! it's one fifteen in the morning and i'm tearing my hair out over how to plan for just the next decade.
ben_vulpes: "fuck everything that happens, i'm in the wot."
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone in the wot ever actually starves. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> dude, i have nfi << me neither, i'm just a millwright trying to not starve this decade.
mircea_popescu: dude, i have nfi, im following here. you make a statement, i wanna see how you got to it
ben_vulpes: i suppose that this is more properly spoken of in certainty intervals?
ben_vulpes: i'm leaning towards the fiatbezzle right now.
ben_vulpes: i can think of fifteen utterly moronic doodz doing running precisely the same hustle and making vastly more money at it.
ben_vulpes: actually, i totally get it all of a sudden.
ben_vulpes: yeah i have no idea how to account for that.
ben_vulpes: right, so we come back around to equity which i clearly don't understand formally.
ben_vulpes: on the other hand, during those thing months, the "bankers" walk with hours*rate, and i lose money.
ben_vulpes: the linked article on one hand doesn't make a terrific amount of sense to me because for whatever reason (perhaps i'm a particularly well-doing con man), i can sell into the buy side of "professional services" at rates that my "bankers" can't touch on their own.
ben_vulpes: instead, i coordinate work of the type i could perform on my own. that work costs me, let's say .8B. i bill at ~1.8. on volume, my take home is ~1.5B/hr (assuming 40hrs/wk, 50wks/yr. salary equality assumptions, etc.).
ben_vulpes: i could freelance, at some rate - let's say 2BTC/hr
mircea_popescu: this means that if i hadn't the equity, it wouldn't be "the same thing".
mircea_popescu: this should readily resolve the apparent dilemma : if i do in fact have equity in your firm, it means i did something useful.
mircea_popescu: i have an equity interest in your fish. because it was my boat.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand what equity is.
mircea_popescu: and yes that's what i'd do as fed chairman : interest hike to 35%.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes essentially, i don't think you're proceeding on actually defined (or even considered) symbols.
ben_vulpes: for tax reasons, i clock infinity hours, get paid exactly the same amount (for medicare/aid purposes) each month.
mircea_popescu: it seems a rehash of "i could code mpex in an afternoon. you kidding, it has no css even"
ben_vulpes: so basically i can't really figure anything out.
ben_vulpes: but at the same time, because i'm not a nightmare to work with, i have a near-infinite sell wall of talent.
ben_vulpes: perhaps i'm insane or a particularly good scammer, but i can close deals that none of the programmers on staff could ever dream of. hilariously, because they're on staff.
ben_vulpes: I don’t believe payments to owners in professional services firms are the residual profits. And why should they be, when the employees can leave and set up shop across the street with almost no need for equity capital? In the implicit negotiation over distribution of revenue, the employees have all the bargaining power. The equity will be paid a fair return, but will not receive any structural
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: dude on one hand i constantly bemoan this: 'oh if only i were just freelancing i'd be rolling in the dough'
ben_vulpes: anyways as a point of data, it's year 1.5ish of this insane enterprise, and i'm just now beginning to approach the salary of a "programmer" in my geographic region.
mircea_popescu: well... i'll take your word re the babydoll then.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, lol nothing i say here would surprise the missus sharing pics of her friends would be one step too far, even for me
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2015 06:56:08; gabriel_laddel: and I know her irl, she is drunk in the 2nd photo
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: to the second one, i reply 'bankers aren't the bad guys (tm)'
ben_vulpes: i've read them, found them interesting and full of insight, but submit them for the forum for my own education.
pete_dushenski: ya i started trading stocks on my parents' accounts before i was much interested in girls
mircea_popescu: i've had it resolved.
mircea_popescu: i step away for one second and what happens!
fluffypony: pete_dushenski: analogous to "The fraud came as a surprise. He seemed like such a nice guy. I definitely didn't expect him to scam anyone."
pete_dushenski: cazalla: i'm guessing banks issuing the credit cards
punkman: ben_vulpes: http://imgur.com/CWCOGkO << I like it, but needs more shaming
ben_vulpes: i can't even be fucking arsed.
pete_dushenski: "I also finished the first draft of ICAP, the Ethereum Inter-exchange Client Address Protocol, an IBAN-compatible system for referencing and transacting to client accounts aimed to streamline the process of transfering funds, worry-free between exchanges and, ultimately, make KYC and AML pains a thing of the past."
ben_vulpes: i see this sign every morning, yet this morning it brought to mind your...reprinting of the adams short.
ben_vulpes: i'm not
gabriel_laddel: lolk. I'm sorta half joking (and sorta half not).
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: ha! she enjoyed it i take it ?
ben_vulpes: i read it to lady v on our morning stroll for great lulz.
cazalla: my missus has a china doll in her mum's group, she is one of the best chinese women i've seen and we have truckloads of em here down under
gabriel_laddel: and I know her irl, she is drunk in the 2nd photo ☟︎
Vexual: why can't i catch a nuke sub to somewhere?
mircea_popescu: no, actually, i got a much better one. http://38.media.tumblr.com/0eed9dc2858247e231736ceb94b53e0e/tumblr_ncmqux4dvb1s11mtco1_400.gif
asciilifeform: damnit, here i was, thinking i'd actually invented something useful, l0l
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, i actually had this design made, and tried on live girls.
ben_vulpes: i think augur designs exist approximating this.
asciilifeform: anyway, travelling-wave dildo doesn't seem to exist, and i never knew why
asciilifeform: pet: 'i agree with this statement'
thestringpuller: " strategically speaking I intend to create a digital services marketplace, and would very much like to use the large and varied needs of Eulora acquisition to seed that platform"
mircea_popescu: Political collapse will be resisted, and the way it will be resisted is by starting as many wars as possible, to produce a vast backdrop of failure to serve as a rationale for all sorts of “emergency measures,” << i said this a number of times, but it bears repeating : if this happens every usg employee, past or present, hangs by his guts.
ben_vulpes: decimation: next time i'm in london i expect to see all sorts of historical engineering bits
mircea_popescu: i got more harems than horowitz.
decimation: I think it wants to fail because it cannot imagine otherwise
decimation: yeah but I don't think it 'wants to fail' because of a secret cabal of financiers
mircea_popescu: but i mean...
trinque: mod6: lol I filled the disk doing an emerge -uDN @world
mod6: np. but you were able to verify the sig of the Monthy Address yourself right? I checked it and it verified for me just fine...
trinque: I'll fix it and then publish that for you
mod6: that i just imported to deedbot
trinque: interesting, let me see if I can verify that signature myself
trinque: I also have a mental ticket for that
trinque: I'm going to make it just deedbot- http://dpaste/whatever.txt too
mod6: i think the whole thing is fine
trinque: though I can take eating key fingerprints as a feature request
trinque: I'm going to fix that in a bit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno how i missed that
asciilifeform: ada is also used in the banking sector (the only countries for which i have strong clues of this being the fact are ch and ua)
asciilifeform: (there's a 'bleeding edge' version pushed out by ada foundation, which slowly merges back into gcc, as i understand. that version is also gpl, but the standard lib is also gpl - unlike the gcc ada, where it is lgpl)
asciilifeform: decimation: i've no personal knowledge of american ada 'warez' being used in ru (PL/I, oddly enough - yes)
decimation: I guess it flows with your 'foreign warez' theory
cazalla: mike_c, i'll pm you
mike_c: pretty easy to get it translated. i'll take care of it if you'd like.
mike_c: maybe i won't get the worst price of everyone for the conference.
mircea_popescu: im happy i found this chan >D
gabriel_laddel: Alright, I'm off to lunch.
kakobrekla: http://cbsn.cbsnews.com/ some live lol i hear
trinque: by publish I mean, publish the hash txn
ascii_field: (i'd still prefer to mount the cpu here)
ascii_field: if i'm satisfied with result, will have them place the passives for the initial run
davout: did i hear "manufacturing samples"??
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I mean, Germans are "generally stupid" too, but when compared to e.g. disabled people.
ascii_field: i'll spoil a little of it: manufacturing samples arriving sometime late this wk. or early next
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: yes! soon as i get back home