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mircea_popescu: (or from a security perspective, esp the cpu and memory)
mircea_popescu: polarbeard most of those will have to be written de novo, basically. esp the filesystem.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah i guess most of the problem comes from that chasm. we're not the first to meet it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is ifdefs REALLY the only way to do this ?
mircea_popescu: wouldn't it be a shitton cheaper to not need a vm layer if at all avoidable ?
mircea_popescu: but i'm discussing YOUR HOME BOX. not some rando box you run.
mircea_popescu: so i'm not terribly interested in that line of thought.
mircea_popescu: see, that';s thje bitch here : missile guidance has to be on missile and there only. there's no benefit from it running on jane's computor.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but this faces you with the unpleasant choice of whether to not play tetris or not run bitcoin on your homebox.
mircea_popescu: im not making any calls here, just running the horse around the field.
mircea_popescu: mod6 here's the problem with "Bitcoinos" : you will want it adapted for bitcoin needs, which necessarily means it won't be your tool of choice for doing almost anything else, which necessarily means maintaining it will be a pain in the ass.
mircea_popescu: mod6 to my mind it's almost as if we bit a recursion girder over here. "v presses source". "ok how do i build it ?" "uh... i guess you need a v-make genesis and follow that for your os." "ok... how do i do that ?" "well... get v-make-make and..."
mircea_popescu: anyway. i suppose this entire compatibility general issue will need more thinking about.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah the part where your otherwise reasonable idea breaks down is where deedbot is not really a webservice
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo srsly why are you putting your uni library in the deedbot.
mircea_popescu: phf you seriously considering maintaining a bsd rotor thing ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well apparently phf was half-trying but no hats.
mircea_popescu: and so then bsd support, like windows or crapple support, would be a bolt-on ?
mircea_popescu: and so what, we're officially targetting "anything that's unix post bsd pre systemd" ?
mircea_popescu: "bitcoinos" is a symbol here. may mean linux, whatever the fuck it means.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so if someone has a box that they're using, they can't run a bitcoin node there unless they run it under bitcoinos ?
mircea_popescu: so you bring up your *bsd box, run rotor on it, does it build or doesn't it.
mircea_popescu: so then the model here is to have fundamentally speaking a pogo/arm-ish level bitcoind/os, that doesn't really natively build on anything without a laundry list of finicking ?
mircea_popescu: obviously, as a general thing, people MIGHT consider running a bitcoin node on any box they run.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform logically : a) you won't want to ssh into the node and do your bash there (providing it even has ssh). this means you'll be stuck using something else on top of bitcoin-os.
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the first time so far it occurs to me we might be setting ourselves up for failure here. because of this support / os issue.
mircea_popescu: the problem with that is that well... nobody'd want to bash in bitcoinos. so we'll end up with a very strange catamaran of a stack.
mircea_popescu: mod6 thinking about this, the problem slowly becomes that not only does bitcoin gravitate towards bitcoinos, but it puts some serious problems to any attempt at wide support.
mircea_popescu: so basically, this should prolly be on the wiki or what.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it'd be a horrid mistake to try and merge the notion of a press and the notion of a makefile.
mircea_popescu: well yeah, seems this will have to be separately maintained.
mircea_popescu: mod6 so basically we can't use our convenient makefiles to build the pressed source ; openbsd people gotta finagle their own build chain to get the same source to compile and link ?
mircea_popescu: we can't be the first people doing a multi-platform release.
mircea_popescu: hanbot should be universal. if i find any thing worse than in the time of the predecessors i'm bringing out the machine guns and fire throwers as a matter of principle. and i want the skies bathed in the screams of the innocent and the blood of gutted babes, also as a matter of principle.
mircea_popescu: well, "my son, we're bums but you'll inherit all of it" sorta degree. no loss in quality of life there.
mircea_popescu: ie, much easier to "deny benefits to outsiders" when nobody wants the benefits you offer.
mircea_popescu: sure. on the scale of sovereignity north korea is doing pretty well, too bad they're stupid.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nevertheless, bear in mind that there is a catastrophic difference between "derp needing" and "dude trying to contribute".
mircea_popescu: me: 'the measure of a state's sovereignty and quality of life therein is the degree to which it can deny benefits to outsiders' << certainly works to "why is B,TMSR~ superior to USG and necessarily a replacement thereof".
mircea_popescu: or, alternatively, they could be just left to do what they do, which is both cheaper and conceptually cleaner.
mircea_popescu: "These yuppie “blockbuster” musicians, who think they can save those who hate them and put their women and children in danger to assuage their own misplaced feminist guilt and world-saving bitch complex, should be staked out, skinned, have their eyelids pinned back, and left for the crows."
mircea_popescu: ecked me, kicked the hell out of my head (concussion and bleeding). I was very lucky. "
mircea_popescu: "I recently moved to the Pacific Northwest from Baltimore. What partly impelled the move was being beaten up by a black guy who I had grappled with and held down after he was chasing his girlfriend with a baseball bat. His GF and another woman went nuts, beating me as he and I grappled on the ground with me holding the bat with both arms. To shut them up, I stupidly rolled the bat away and let him get up. He promptly d
mircea_popescu: orly, check that out, airstrip one got taxi stopping policies nao ?
mircea_popescu: "The gang's downfall came when Aaron Shane Murphy and Uzair Patel, both 29, were stopped by police in a taxi in Newham in June 2015."
mircea_popescu: "NervousNorbert [score hidden] 4 hours ago Consensus on increasing the maximum participant limit was not reached." << ahahaha top keks.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> holy shit snsa listed in 2013 <<< well yes, was gonna be xmas remember!
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> bbbut what if spinnin' round & round, 'fooor piglet' << i imagine you're exactly on the mark. cartoon army, designing weapons for cartoon usage.
mircea_popescu: by the time the 3rd went off, your barrel is so far up high it no longer matters.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like every civilised everyone everwhere. aim the first.
mircea_popescu: mats and "trained" in this context merely means experienced.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck are you going to do with a pos hot rifle that only fires full auto in the remains of a town ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but ONLY full auto means you can't do most of the things you actually want to do.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes workplace safety != this just like domestic faithfulness != chastity belts.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so you starting your own "drunken mousy middle chalss chick at college" tumblr ?
mircea_popescu: "wait, that coems to ONLY 15% a year ? TOO SMALL!!1" <<< meant to be "only 150%", cuz nigga can't exponentiate, divides instead.