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williamdunne: decimation: Depends on if
a big hill gets me enough BSD points
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: They sign things too, but... For their own use in releases they have
a GPG alternative because GPG licensing violates part of their license purity directive. Dunno how good it is , but sometime hetrogyny is insteresting.
☟︎ williamdunne: Maybe I could try and one-up them and climb up into the mountains for
a few years and carve
a guide into
a stone tablet.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Well, not
a feature of OpenBSD, but their culture
BingoBoingo: <williamdunne> Any chance of
a writeup on it? <<
A distinct feature of OpenBSD is that outside of the man pages much of the best documentation is still produced on dead trees
BingoBoingo: <trinque> I'll also say that pf.conf seems to suffer from the same syntax-creep SQL does, where they just add more to the grammar for every feature << Actually the problem is they've been supplanting inherited grammar inherited from ipfw they imitated to start with towards more of
a sensible firewall language
trinque: would've made more sense if it were
a sort of function composition thing, where you're producing
a function that'll process every packet
trinque: seems there are
a hundred-million other knobs on pf I didn't use
trinque: I tend to want to have
a pretty thorough understanding of
a thing before I try to teach anyone else, too
mircea_popescu: in point of fact this is unchanged millenia later - very few kids end up here,
a few more are in the military, and the rest on reddit.
mircea_popescu: yeah, pretty much. so... it couldn't conceivably been
a bad standard for them, inasmuch as it was... the standard.
mircea_popescu: otherwise... maybe become
a client for some important patron, and done what the us sub-political class does today. in the day's huffington post and astroturfed meetings and whatnot.
a very precarious existence, certainly the slavegirls had it better.
mircea_popescu: the alternatives to this are unclear. if very clever you could have traded, but various ethic groups had
a defacto monopoly on that, and
a very large cultural advantage.
mircea_popescu: this allowed you to take
a young woman and start
a household in relative security. the exact american dream.
mircea_popescu: well ok, but in terms of standards : as
a young man with no property, your options were essentially to go into military service, which offered pay and, upon serving 18ish to 20something years,
a large settlement payment and provincial land.
williamdunne: Not particularly, I know fatality rates would be vastly different dependent on region though. Obviously being
a city-guard in Rome is
a pretty safe job but being the the border of the empire or in active battle/expansion seems like
a good way to get killed
mircea_popescu: it really wasn't much higher risk than being in the army, which was you know,
a good chunk of the population, especially poorer.
williamdunne: Sort of like the difference between
a pet and next seasons dinner - even if both are property
williamdunne: Sorry I meant the slaves as if in thrown in the pit rather than trained like you would
a prize horse
mircea_popescu:
a gladiator was more expensive
a piece of fixed capital than
a whore.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i think it's just the way it's being promoted. boxing harks to
a different time, with different people. mma is more tuned for the contemporary kid. different life balances. << Which is why I'm thinking that 11-ish years from now on my 40th Birthday it might be realistic that I could become
a ProBoxer
williamdunne: I'm not aiming for the greatness, I just want to see two people beat the crap out of each other. Its
a bloodsport really I suppose. Turnover is entertaining.
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: What that lack of constraint gets you though is
a rapid turnover at the top. There's so much asymmetry that no one can aspire to prolongued greatness.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i think it's just the way it's being promoted. boxing harks to
a different time, with different people. mma is more tuned for the contemporary kid. different life balances.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> williamdunne hey, i enjoy watching some dude beat the crap / get beaten the crap out of as much as the next guy, but it helps
a lot if i know them/there's
a substantial quarrel/something. << This is
a serious problem with MMA. It seems
a majority of the competitors are just downright friendly outside the ring.
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: See I like MMA for that lack of constraints. Maybe I'm just
a joe-sixpack-adrenaline junky
mircea_popescu: williamdunne i guess. don't you think it kinda detracts from the whole thing ? like, "here, monkeys,
a silver coin. FIGHT!"
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: the skyhook guys actually operate out of
a warehouse across town from me
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the nasdaq thing is just, they want to use
a centralize custom scamcoin to somehow track pre-ipo trades. not really clear what this actually is, tbh, and i somehow doubt it's more than the intersection between inept bitcoin piarism and vague plans for vapornothing.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu does money count? Pretty sure there is
a bonus for winning
BingoBoingo: I'd like to be able to consider starting
a pro-boxing career at 40
mircea_popescu: williamdunne hey, i enjoy watching some dude beat the crap / get beaten the crap out of as much as the next guy, but it helps
a lot if i know them/there's
a substantial quarrel/something.
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> [22:58] cazalla lamassus are worth
a grand. << based on?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm hoping for
a rematch before they turn 50. Manny's got the aggression and Mayweather's age showed more.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the size of that cohesive group is merely
a function of the resources wasted on it. << But consider what USG spends on keeping NBP alive to only have Maybe 200 new Black Panthers vs. what Femen spends on Maybe 200 topless agitators.
ben_vulpes: like - "quite clearly not
a queen, nor even
a gurl ergo beta"
mircea_popescu: the size of that cohesive group is merely
a function of the resources wasted on it.
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> speaking of which, was there
a paqi-mayw bitbet ? don't recall seeing one, which is too bad as i would've loved to have taken some change off of "the people's fighter" << I though about funding one. Ended up doing
a smaller bet on PacMan.
mircea_popescu: what are you more likely to run into,
a girl that doesnt want to fuck because of what she's heard the catholic church say, or
a girl that wants to go topless because of what she's heard of femen ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << it's
a mixed bag, really. the "new black panther" party was
a good chunk of the success of the obama campaign. their disinterest was
a big chunk of the ridoinculous fizzle of ows. << NBP is truly
a tiny thing like FEMEN
pete_dushenski: speaking of which, was there
a paqi-mayw bitbet ? don't recall seeing one, which is too bad as i would've loved to have taken some change off of "the people's fighter"
Adlai: wheelchairs make
a lot of noise, i'll put
a satoshi on blind
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 16:40:25; lobbes: Adlai, career criminals, sure. But I'm skeptical that
a bunch of career criminals would suddenly align against
a common foe, rather than continue the 'business as usual' of fighting each other
mircea_popescu: obviously baltimore riots were
a plan hatched and executed by the baltimore drug lords, but it *may* be also part of
a larger frontline,
a probing operation as it's called.
mircea_popescu: "There is
a pattern here: it seems that whenever Americans arm, train and equip an army, that army stands
a really big chance of simply melting away, with the weapons falling into the hands of those who want to use them against American interests."
mod6: ok all, I'm gonna rebuild this thing with uclibc, I'll have an update for ya in
a few hours :]
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I was simply noting that I'm really the wrong person to speak with about living healthy if one wishes to carry on
a conversation.
gabriel_laddel: mod6: I wrote an ebuild parser, ran sloccount, read through the documentation, opened
a few files + ebuilds at random and read through them.
mod6: So basically that's where we are. I've gotten to the point where I can create an AWS AMI -> deploy hand-rolled Gentoo instance. I'll certainly continue to build out the blessed toolchain over the next week and beyond. Further, then I'll take what I've learned from all of this and apply it to building
a hand-rolled Gentoo on
a bare-rails environment.
mod6: So the idea was that I would learn
a few things about Gentoo, get
a hand-rolled stage3 +
a fully blessed tool chain and be able to attch my "btc-dev" storage volume and just pick up where we left-off -- at lesat as far as what artifacts I'd already collected.
mod6: One of my goals was to get this going as soon as possible in AWS so we could continue with builds/testing/development and ditch Debian6. And additonally, I have
a 350Gb storage volume there that I wanted to not just discard as it has at least half-
a-dozen fully sync'd blockchains on there.
mod6: To begin with, I was completely unfamiliar with gentoo in any sense -- aside from once trying to set it up from the Handbook, which I found that I didn't have time to work my way through and get it set up properly. So my goal was to get familiar with Gentoo and to start to build
a system that can be agreed upon that suits our needs for building bitcoind.
☟︎ mod6: Allow me to elaborate for
a minute here and I'll explain why I did what I did.
mod6: <+hanbot> ... hey mod6, could you make
a version of this that isn't aws-specific? or wouldja be willing to me make one? << yea, absolutely. I'll get there at some point soon hopefully.
gabriel_laddel: his(their) ability, to develop the practice of medicine in accordance with reality. Being subject to the prejudice and technical limitations of the times is inescapable (the notion of "humors" may have made more sense without knowing of chemical reactions). The notes on the constitution of
a patient's stool, fasting and diet are probably still valid. In the 'General Introduction' Jones notes that philosophy had aban
☟︎ ben_vulpes: <funkenstein_> sometimes keeping up with trilema feels like trying to sync the blockchain with
a dialup modem << lol how do you handle the log?
assbot: Logged on 09-05-2015 15:49:16; funkenstein_: gabriel_laddel, I said no such thing. This is
a public log.
gribble: Error: "tlsb" is not
a valid command.
mircea_popescu: heh. he paid 4k and wants to make
a profit, CLEARLY he should get 5k.
mircea_popescu: "If you think about it just
a tiny bit, nothing on this scale could be contrived artificially, and the thought that millions of people would prostitute their dead for propaganda purposes is, frankly, both cynical and insulting."
mircea_popescu: "Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, [blablabla] made the sign of the cross, in the Russian Orthodox manner. This simple gesture transformed the parade from
a display of military pomp to
a sacred ritual."
mircea_popescu: "here i sit in
a prefab vinyl siding plebhousing unit, burning
a 50 dollar bill" ?
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: "Western media focused on the fact that western leaders declined to attend the celebration, either in
a fit of pique or because so ordered by the Obama administration, but this only highlights their combined irrelevance, be it in defeating Hitler, or in commemorating his defeat 70 years later."
mircea_popescu: hm yeah, aws is useful to have but it really shouldnt be
a dependency.
hanbot: mircea_popescu> <mod6> once I have these guys << hanbot how about you help with that effort ? << hey mod6, could you make
a version of this that isn't aws-specific? or wouldja be willing to help me make one?
mircea_popescu: check it out, the government is required to file
a certificate. and if they don't... fuckall. and if it's fraudulent ? all the better.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: rule of law is
a statal fiction, news-at-eleven.
mircea_popescu: but is there
a disbarment of the government counsel as
a result of attempted fraud in open court ?
mircea_popescu: and so therefore, " If the requirement of the timely filing of
a certificate is to have substantial meaning, the government's appeal here should be dismissed. Indeed, the purpose of the certificate requirement is to ensure the government has verified the propriety of its appeal, and so certified to the district court, at the time it files its notice of appeal. That purpose is defeated by the perfunctory filing of the c
mircea_popescu: back to the lulzlaw department for
a moment, " Nonetheless, the government concedes that it failed to file
a timely certificate with the district court "that the appeal was not taken for purpose of delay and that the evidence is
a substantial proof of
a fact material in the proceeding," although § 3731 required it to do so. The government has now filed such
a certificate, and correctly notes that the late filing, alth
ascii_field: when had that box, had
a 'chipchat' sound card, afaik the only one made for mca
mircea_popescu: i had
a 286! and (after that!)
a weird pc-xt that had asm debugger built into bios. and so on
trinque: my first computer was
a piece of shit 486 with
a turbo button
ascii_field: (was searching for years for
a 100% silent example of such, finally found)
ascii_field: speaking of which, i just bought
a 486-133.
lobbes: still enough soul to not be made by
a machine, but fast enough to say 'damn'
lobbes: I've got
a love for 'fast blues'; srv and the like
mod6: anyway, thanks for taking
a look!
mircea_popescu: just, you two, package this in
a detailed, explicit, clear, verbose article.
mircea_popescu: mod6 maybe even think about writing
a qntra piece, or ben_vulpes