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trinque: I've got e-mail
threads with him where I
try
to spoonfeed him a mcclim support gig, nada
trinque: g_l for example can absorb an astonishing amount of whipping with nary a budge. I don't even mean
that as an insult.
mircea_popescu: now
the problem with
this is
that
the stupid beast ~quite deliberately~ (even if uncomprehended by
the elements, subhuman as
they are, composing
that beast) presents
them partially. so as
to avoid you know, actual results, much like an octopus would
touch a stove.)
mircea_popescu: es and nothing happens ; or else
the whipping is directed, in which case we pick
the 3-sigma cases and get 0.03% of 10mn ie 3k people who could be fixed in a few days each.
mircea_popescu: (this is a significant problem. consider a model :
there's what,
ten-twenty millions of bernsteins, kanzure , fyr and what have you on one hand ; and only a hundred or so of us. even if we were
to work a full 200 hour's week, if on average one needs 1k man-hours of constant whipping
to redress into humanity, we encounter
the following birthday paradox : either
the whipping is undirected, in which case every
tard gets 15 minut
mircea_popescu: fwis
the forum's patience already wearing
thin at
the edges.
mircea_popescu: trinque
there's at all
times large swathes of salvageable cattle.
they -- never in short supply. who can be arsed
to wield
the whip in such copious quantities as
they may require, now
that's a challenge.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 17:32 fyr: and if it did and
the shitty VPS it's on went down, I'd make doe eyes at Management and
they'd unilaterally push my new key into
the kernel of everyone on
the network
trinque: if
there are a few salvageable folks out
there, hooray.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 16:43
trinque: lotta calitards slithering in lately. must be climate change.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 16:33 fyr: Yeah I'm
trying
to figure out if
this is doable without having a
trilema-specific key I'd inevitably lose
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707415 << lol
this guy.
the "trilema-specific" item is
the only non-specific one. "oh, i can't get on
the web from my walled garden dumbphone without a "web specific" arrangement". yes, it's called a key.
the freedom-specific item people in cells need is called a key.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 16:24 fyr: see
this is why I want urbit
to exist uvu
mircea_popescu: e, but instead
the nude concrete walls,
the [low class mass produced kitsch wallhanging stuff],
the bedbug infested pressed shitboard nightstand. But indifferent
to all
these points,
they play a role
to support a
theory :
the
theory
that here
too, in
the assghetto of shit "we got fine stuff", and a John wh o, even if only four letters long, is still quite as great as any Mircea come from afar."
mircea_popescu: try (in our example,
that sad ghet
to) pick John up forcibly, sit him down at
the
table next
to mine and curl at his feet, just like
the other
two.
They're definitely not slavegirls,
they have neither
the
training nor
the skills nor in
the end
the needs or structure of
that relationship, and no marble columns, no gardens where water sprinkles among
the cypress nor artesian fountains springing forth marzipan await
them at hom
mircea_popescu: at which point i feel compelled
to quote
http://trilema.com/2014/the-death-of-taxes/#selection-185.0-185.1138 : "So we understand each other : John is some poor and kinda stupid kid from some ghetto in some indistinct
townlet. One day, Mircea
the Bad comes
there on whatever business, sits down in
the bar with his
two bitches curled up at his feet and drinks a rum or something.
The girls from
the ghetto, for love of
their coun
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 12:34 PeterL:
this is something I needed for work, and
tada, web search came up with nice open access article, I was amazed
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 12:34 PeterL:
this is something I needed for work, and
tada, web search came up with nice open access article, I was amazed
jhvh1: mircea_popescu:
The operation succeeded.
fyr: hi mircea
tell me how I should stop being an untrusted ghostfag <3
fyr: which will
take 2 dudes with jackhammers a day
to install, disrupting any attempts
to get work done during
that day
fyr is listening about how he should put
the porch rhinestone inside a $200 safe
fyr: But I don't have any bright plans for making such arrangements, and will consider keyfulness premature optimization until
then
shinohai: "if I was doing
this for srs" <<< no reason
to do it otherwise besides practicd in ones own home
fyr: And like I get
that unforgeable reputation is useful if you want
to have a
textual agreement
to buy some MPEx security for bitcoin, or w.e.
fyr: How many
times has any ~ghost~ on
this channel actually been impersonated? I guess like if every conversation starts with "get a key already" ghosts just don't exist for long
☟︎ fyr: I have a decent grasp of
the relevant /primitives/ and am confident in my ability
to actually apply
them after a couple days of reading manpages
fyr: Have read article, if I was doing
this for srs
that would be a backup for sharded offsite multisig
shinohai: asciilifeform: I was
trying
to be magnanimous and assume he had basic knowledge
fyr: I have like less
than one lying around on coinbase for use in buying alpaca socks, not like in any serious capacity
☟︎ fyr: No I'd leave it locked up in a bank
that all
the normies
trust B)
fyr: to
take on
the liability of "don't lose
this file or you'll get much more reputational harm
than just not registering in
the first place"
☟︎ shinohai: Imagine key as physical object, like diamond. You would leave it sitting on kitchen
table behind locked doors whilst you work?
fyr: Like I'm not saying it is ~an utterly impossible insurmountable burden~ I'm saying I don't have any
threat models for which it makes sense
☟︎ fyr: "Without help" is a bit harsh, and implies I shouldn't read
the ~practical guide~ just linked, but if I have srs keys nobody gets
to
touch
them ya
fyr: Anyway I'm sure I can be
talked into it eventually, but I don't have it set up /already/ and am not going
to go on a multihour Fetchquest
to
that effect rn
fyr: Okay yes I could just
triplicate
the primary key on various SD cards and hope nobody finds any of
them
fyr: But
that doesn't actually solve
the "2 years later I drop it in
the bath" problem
fyr: I have a fresh Librem lying around I can probably use
that
fyr: I am very much not going
to do
that yes
fyr: It's not, even
the desired end state is semi-centralized with 256 root nodes
shinohai: "and dump
the private half in Dropbox" <<< please don't fucking do
this
fyr: (Especially if I keep using
this
thru webchat on an ~underpatched iPad~)
fyr: I guess I could just generate an entropic keypair and dump
the private half in Dropbox, but in
that case staying unregistered seems more uh honest :3
fyr: just *grump* at
the implication
that gpg is usable enough by a non-initiate
to get a brainwallet or w/e out of it in 5 minutes
fyr: Anyway I know I'm on
the larp server for "not getting pwned by unspecified pgp-fearing non-Mossad is hard, reliable backups and Linux audio is easy"
fyr: which would be
terribly self-defeating if said laptop death did occur
fyr: Afaict
the whole point of
the nickserv pgp
thing is I can't come in a month later all "my laptop finally died of blunt impact
trauma, accept new unsigned pubkey pl0x"
☟︎ fyr: and if it did and
the shitty VPS it's on went down, I'd make doe eyes at Management and
they'd unilaterally push my new key into
the kernel of everyone on
the network
☟︎ fyr: My "urbit-turd" is ultimately on a
test-net, and doesn't have live keys
shinohai: Floating fire ants,
to be more specific
shinohai imagines
trinque on an island of fire ants directing
the weather from
tx
shinohai: (Preferably when you realize what a
true digital Republic is)
trinque: surely
this is not insurmountable
trinque: there's no urbit-turd you'd also have
to keep holding onto?
fyr: Yeah I'm
trying
to figure out if
this is doable without having a
trilema-specific key I'd inevitably lose
☟︎ fyr: see
this is why I want urbit
to exist uvu
☟︎ shinohai: I
thought working in Java was like a circle of hell or a prison sentence.
fyr: Haskell
tax is
the phenomenon
that working in Java or Javascirpt or w/e pays more
sageprobes: below market because like ~Haskell
tax~ but pays
the rent
sageprobes: I found
the original cracking article plenty interesting :P
sageprobes: was expecting a forum
tbh, I don't actually have a sage probe I would need help with but was curious about battle stories
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 05:16 ben_vulpes: ("imagine, if
they only paid software coolies for software
that works" [tm] [r] [asciilifeform])