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trinque: I've got e-mail threads with him where I try to spoonfeed him a mcclim support gig, nada
asciilifeform: asked the q ' so what didja ~change~ in clim etc ' and no satisfactory reply
asciilifeform: i have genuinely nfi re g_l , what he spends his time on, after seeing the film
trinque: g_l for example can absorb an astonishing amount of whipping with nary a budge. I don't even mean that as an insult.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hence the sigma comments.
mircea_popescu: now the problem with this is that the stupid beast ~quite deliberately~ (even if uncomprehended by the elements, subhuman as they are, composing that beast) presents them partially. so as to avoid you know, actual results, much like an octopus would touch a stove.)
mircea_popescu: es and nothing happens ; or else the whipping is directed, in which case we pick the 3-sigma cases and get 0.03% of 10mn ie 3k people who could be fixed in a few days each.
mircea_popescu: (this is a significant problem. consider a model : there's what, ten-twenty millions of bernsteins, kanzure , fyr and what have you on one hand ; and only a hundred or so of us. even if we were to work a full 200 hour's week, if on average one needs 1k man-hours of constant whipping to redress into humanity, we encounter the following birthday paradox : either the whipping is undirected, in which case every tard gets 15 minut
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/jewish-cuckoldress-husband-tim-celebrate-10-years-wedding-aniversay/ << Trilema - Jewish Cuckoldress & Husband Tim celebrate 10 years' wedding aniversay.
mircea_popescu: fwis the forum's patience already wearing thin at the edges.
mircea_popescu: trinque there's at all times large swathes of salvageable cattle. they -- never in short supply. who can be arsed to wield the whip in such copious quantities as they may require, now that's a challenge.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 17:32 fyr: and if it did and the shitty VPS it's on went down, I'd make doe eyes at Management and they'd unilaterally push my new key into the kernel of everyone on the network
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707435 << and you fail to see why this makes your toy project entirely irrelevant to everyone, including yourselves ? ☝︎
trinque: if there are a few salvageable folks out there, hooray.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 16:43 trinque: lotta calitards slithering in lately. must be climate change.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707421 the word apparently spread that while just as scary as ever, we don't actually bite. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 16:33 fyr: Yeah I'm trying to figure out if this is doable without having a trilema-specific key I'd inevitably lose
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707415 << lol this guy. the "trilema-specific" item is the only non-specific one. "oh, i can't get on the web from my walled garden dumbphone without a "web specific" arrangement". yes, it's called a key. the freedom-specific item people in cells need is called a key. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 16:24 fyr: see this is why I want urbit to exist uvu
mircea_popescu: e, but instead the nude concrete walls, the [low class mass produced kitsch wallhanging stuff], the bedbug infested pressed shitboard nightstand. But indifferent to all these points, they play a role to support a theory : the theory that here too, in the assghetto of shit "we got fine stuff", and a John wh o, even if only four letters long, is still quite as great as any Mircea come from afar."
mircea_popescu: try (in our example, that sad ghet to) pick John up forcibly, sit him down at the table next to mine and curl at his feet, just like the other two. They're definitely not slavegirls, they have neither the training nor the skills nor in the end the needs or structure of that relationship, and no marble columns, no gardens where water sprinkles among the cypress nor artesian fountains springing forth marzipan await them at hom
mircea_popescu: at which point i feel compelled to quote http://trilema.com/2014/the-death-of-taxes/#selection-185.0-185.1138 : "So we understand each other : John is some poor and kinda stupid kid from some ghetto in some indistinct townlet. One day, Mircea the Bad comes there on whatever business, sits down in the bar with his two bitches curled up at his feet and drinks a rum or something. The girls from the ghetto, for love of their coun
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707361 << be less terrorist. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 14:26 shinohai: Does anyone reading the logs have any info on this brand of SSD? https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B01KKZLX46
mircea_popescu: uh i meant the above re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707352 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 12:34 PeterL: this is something I needed for work, and tada, web search came up with nice open access article, I was amazed
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707348 << it's a micron tech brand, not exactly unknown, mostly IM Flash tech products anyway. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 12:34 PeterL: this is something I needed for work, and tada, web search came up with nice open access article, I was amazed
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell fyr so register a key.
fyr: hi mircea tell me how I should stop being an untrusted ghostfag <3
fyr: which will take 2 dudes with jackhammers a day to install, disrupting any attempts to get work done during that day
fyr is listening about how he should put the porch rhinestone inside a $200 safe
fyr: But I don't have any bright plans for making such arrangements, and will consider keyfulness premature optimization until then
shinohai: "if I was doing this for srs" <<< no reason to do it otherwise besides practicd in ones own home
asciilifeform: or gives'em anything to make'em worth impersonating.
asciilifeform: fyr: this is rather like asking 'how many times have people stolen diamond off your front porch'
fyr: And like I get that unforgeable reputation is useful if you want to have a textual agreement to buy some MPEx security for bitcoin, or w.e.
fyr: How many times has any ~ghost~ on this channel actually been impersonated? I guess like if every conversation starts with "get a key already" ghosts just don't exist for long ☟︎
asciilifeform: having no key, is rather like the traditional portrait of being a ghost -- you can looksy but no touchsy
fyr: I have a decent grasp of the relevant /primitives/ and am confident in my ability to actually apply them after a couple days of reading manpages
asciilifeform: you get a signature, that -- eventually, perhaps -- begins to ~mean something~
fyr: Have read article, if I was doing this for srs that would be a backup for sharded offsite multisig
asciilifeform: the reward is that you get to actually have an identity.
fyr is lazy to a fault
shinohai: asciilifeform: I was trying to be magnanimous and assume he had basic knowledge
asciilifeform: shinohai: that doesn't solve the problem of a d00d who has nfi how to keep a key
fyr: I have like less than one lying around on coinbase for use in buying alpaca socks, not like in any serious capacity ☟︎
shinohai: I mean, there are safety measures such as: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1762
asciilifeform: if you do, oughta be familiar with the 'where do i keep something' problem and the approaches to it.
fyr: No I'd leave it locked up in a bank that all the normies trust B)
fyr: to take on the liability of "don't lose this file or you'll get much more reputational harm than just not registering in the first place" ☟︎
shinohai: Imagine key as physical object, like diamond. You would leave it sitting on kitchen table behind locked doors whilst you work?
fyr: Like I'm not saying it is ~an utterly impossible insurmountable burden~ I'm saying I don't have any threat models for which it makes sense ☟︎
fyr: "Without help" is a bit harsh, and implies I shouldn't read the ~practical guide~ just linked, but if I have srs keys nobody gets to touch them ya
shinohai: iT'S TOO HARD!
fyr: Anyway I'm sure I can be talked into it eventually, but I don't have it set up /already/ and am not going to go on a multihour Fetchquest to that effect rn
asciilifeform: ( and it goes without saying, that one does this at all times without help )
asciilifeform: imho a grown man, and a programmer, can figure out how to hide a few kByte somewhere, without any help from us
fyr: Okay yes I could just triplicate the primary key on various SD cards and hope nobody finds any of them
asciilifeform: you. simply. back. up. the. file
asciilifeform: it's, what, a couple of kB, to back up
fyr: But that doesn't actually solve the "2 years later I drop it in the bath" problem
fyr: I have a fresh Librem lying around I can probably use that
fyr: I am very much not going to do that yes
fyr: It's not, even the desired end state is semi-centralized with 256 root nodes
asciilifeform: fyr: get an old laptop with no nic and pgp on that. fiddybux.
shinohai: "and dump the private half in Dropbox" <<< please don't fucking do this
fyr: (Especially if I keep using this thru webchat on an ~underpatched iPad~)
fyr: I guess I could just generate an entropic keypair and dump the private half in Dropbox, but in that case staying unregistered seems more uh honest :3
fyr: just *grump* at the implication that gpg is usable enough by a non-initiate to get a brainwallet or w/e out of it in 5 minutes
fyr: Anyway I know I'm on the larp server for "not getting pwned by unspecified pgp-fearing non-Mossad is hard, reliable backups and Linux audio is easy"
fyr: which would be terribly self-defeating if said laptop death did occur
fyr: Afaict the whole point of the nickserv pgp thing is I can't come in a month later all "my laptop finally died of blunt impact trauma, accept new unsigned pubkey pl0x" ☟︎
fyr: and if it did and the shitty VPS it's on went down, I'd make doe eyes at Management and they'd unilaterally push my new key into the kernel of everyone on the network ☟︎
fyr: My "urbit-turd" is ultimately on a test-net, and doesn't have live keys
asciilifeform: 'New York City Council Major Leader Jimmy Van Bramer, a Democrat, led a rally at the building last week, saying the man has created a "house of horrors" for tenants ...'
asciilifeform: igrants. Last week, residents spoke to News 4 anonymously, terrified of retribution. They say the display of posters and propaganda started small and grew to the entire lobby. The building directory lists infamous Nazis Rudolf Hess and Josef Mengele as residents.'
asciilifeform: in other lulzfodder from same rag ( BingoBoingo : qntra?? ) https://archive.is/jpbe0 >> 'Posters paying homage to the Confederate Army and to World War II dictators like Mussolini and Hitler line the walls of the lobby in the 39th Place condo building in the ethnically diverse neighborhood of Sunnyside. Posters in support of the National Rifle Association and President Trump cover the stairwell. Many residents in the building are imm
shinohai: I figured out that gl broke his leg running from the cops trying to hide crystal meth in wax dildos: http://archive.is/kB5wq
shinohai: Floating fire ants, to be more specific
shinohai imagines trinque on an island of fire ants directing the weather from tx
shinohai: (Preferably when you realize what a true digital Republic is)
trinque: surely this is not insurmountable
trinque: there's no urbit-turd you'd also have to keep holding onto?
fyr: Yeah I'm trying to figure out if this is doable without having a trilema-specific key I'd inevitably lose ☟︎
fyr: see this is why I want urbit to exist uvu ☟︎
shinohai: I thought working in Java was like a circle of hell or a prison sentence.
fyr: Haskell tax is the phenomenon that working in Java or Javascirpt or w/e pays more
asciilifeform: what's a haskell tax ?
sageprobes: below market because like ~Haskell tax~ but pays the rent
asciilifeform: sageprobes: now that has the makings of a good story -- does yarvin actually ~pay~ you lot ?!
asciilifeform: ( though he 'cheated', found the debug symbols somewhere )
sageprobes: I found the original cracking article plenty interesting :P
asciilifeform: sageprobes: care to introduce yourself ? how did you come upon the article ?
asciilifeform: sageprobes: if you don't have a probe+amdmobo, you probably will not find these very interesting.
asciilifeform: sageprobes: plenty in the logs
sageprobes: was expecting a forum tbh, I don't actually have a sage probe I would need help with but was curious about battle stories
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 05:16 ben_vulpes: ("imagine, if they only paid software coolies for software that works" [tm] [r] [asciilifeform])
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707322 << the other edge of ~this~ knife is 'imagine if they actually paid moar for soft that actuallyworx' ☝︎