asciilifeform: and i picked this kind of scheme deliberately.

asciilifeform: the thing is quite bare bones, and will need heavy work.

asciilifeform: ahahahahaha

asciilifeform: orc variant of same.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nope.

asciilifeform: openssl, bdb, boost ?

asciilifeform: only question is in ~what order~ the deps must go

asciilifeform: there is no possible dispute that it must die.

asciilifeform: mod6: would have to replace bdb.

asciilifeform: (ideally, running on top of a raid card with battery packs, like i have here)

asciilifeform: bitcoinfs.

asciilifeform: mod6: the only possible solution is a journalling fs.

asciilifeform: 'after the burial parties leave, and the baffled crows have fled, the wise hyenas come out at eve, to take account of our dead' (tm) (r) (kipling)

asciilifeform: kinda.

asciilifeform: they have ~literally~ the same face.

asciilifeform: like the 2 camels earlier.

asciilifeform: ftr, they all look exactly the same to me.

asciilifeform: can haz the gangrene back plox.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i read 4 words of this and barfed.

asciilifeform: that would explain.

asciilifeform: ah.

asciilifeform: then why was my hostname something.archive.is .

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wasn't archive.is the fella who hosted the original unlucky dulap ?

asciilifeform: will test.

asciilifeform: jurov: very spiffy

asciilifeform: nobody's making them do this, omfg1111.

asciilifeform: these folks aren't even american.

asciilifeform: blackening.

asciilifeform: because this is a thing, aha.

asciilifeform: wait till they get to the part with 'entropy spreading'.

asciilifeform: aaaaaaand wait for it wait for it...

asciilifeform: (if lottery-selected curve is, notionally, ok, then so is a per-key curve!)

asciilifeform: punkman et al: why the FUCK is it necessary to standardize the curve at all ?????

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/0ABG496.txt

asciilifeform: 1) paste into emacs 2) indent-region 3) profit!111!!!

asciilifeform: (random, 'fairly selected', weak keys)

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413765 << ahahahahaha nsa wants to aes-ify the curves. ☝︎

asciilifeform: he didn't say ~only~ procedures!111

asciilifeform: mod6: (oblist) ?

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413705 << you can actually build shiva's scheme as standalone. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413696 << ts is ~mostly~ r5rs, see docs ☝︎

asciilifeform: or put it in init

asciilifeform: mod6: (load "yourfile")

asciilifeform: 'For the C standard library, IncludeOS uses RedHat’s standard library implementation due to its small size, ' << i refuse to read any more of this crapolade.

asciilifeform: (with compression- less...)

asciilifeform: 'A fully virtualized “Hello World” service in IncludeOS (which of course includes the necessary components of the OS) uses only 8.45MB of memory. A Ubuntu 14.04 OS image (the default guest OS for OpenStack) is around 300MB by comparison.' << idiocy. i had linux kernel AND trb in < 5 MB.

asciilifeform bbl

asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu wanted to, could have it fabbed in two weeks without any design work.

asciilifeform: scheme81 , ~unlike~, e.g., the symbolics processors, is ~published~

asciilifeform: but i will point out, again,

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413516 << it is elementarily unlikely that he has working units to sell. see thread. ☝︎

asciilifeform: !s r6rs

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413493 << we had a r6rs thread ☝︎

asciilifeform: !s mining is a bug

asciilifeform: and miners, more generally - vermin.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413479 << miner pools are a plague, nyooz at 11 ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-09-2014#846759 ☝︎

asciilifeform: !s sussman

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413449 << it is. ☝︎

asciilifeform: creates nyoo wurdz, it does..

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413541 << l0l, recall also the typically atrocious ocr on gutenberg. ☝︎

asciilifeform: poor old man must've found a few in his desk drawers, wanted to cash in...

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413437 << the first run of scheme81, as often is the case, were duds. ☝︎

asciilifeform: read it.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413419 << not only the masks, but the scheme (!) proggy that generated (!) them, are public, for decades, in the original paper, in fact. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/hr5Nupf.png << vintage

asciilifeform: just remember boyzngurls, syntactic sugar leads to cancer of the semicolon! ☟︎

asciilifeform: the sheer rot.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: straight to the stove with it.

asciilifeform: r6rs heresies (motherfucking square brackets!)

asciilifeform: i strongly disrecommend it.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413362 << sooo apparently this edition is EVIL ☝︎

asciilifeform: inverted 'strap-on' ?!

asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what even is this

asciilifeform: but scheme is quite a pleasant language to bootstrap from the ground.

asciilifeform: mod6: aha. (though with a small modification, ts will run 'slib', a well-known library)

asciilifeform: (available in dead tree, but link has plain text.)

asciilifeform: http://www.scheme.com/tspl4 << another pretty good source. ☟︎

asciilifeform: a number of folks don't seem to grasp that financial and cultural poverty are quite separate things. visit usa, the land of countless millionaires who have never opened a book, and hobos with half a ph.d. in mathematics.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1413322 << l0l pete_dushenski, 100k usd is real money where you live ? ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: neato mod6. what are you studying from ?

asciilifeform: (can add it, or anything, for that matter, if we need to)

asciilifeform: mod6: there is no 'system' in our tinyscheme.

asciilifeform: mod6: 'guile' is another scheme interpreter.

asciilifeform bbl.

asciilifeform: (unless you're a jungle man in which case it costs infinity.)

asciilifeform: it costs precious little.

asciilifeform: i dun see it re: the desktop.

asciilifeform: the equivalent of 'your own hdd' transportation-wise would be, perhaps, a chopper.

asciilifeform: driving yourself, on public streets, is still rather like 'cloud storage'

asciilifeform: not really similar other than in cost

asciilifeform: between what?

asciilifeform: and pretty much anyone in usa can afford an old car (they start at a few hundy)

asciilifeform: it is not because anyone literally cannot afford hdd

asciilifeform: imbeciles conned into pseudo-'cheaper'

asciilifeform: eh its just elementary chumpatronics.

asciilifeform: but i have nfi, i'm not an aristocrat

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: nothing aristocratic about driving own machine imho