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ascii_field:
a soft fecal matter consensus that 'there is nothing worth looking into here, move along'
Hasimir: alright, assume you're right then, what do they gain by doing this in
a way that can be found by regular(-ish) geeks?
☟︎ ascii_field: but there are human fingerprints on it. take the 'bug' or 'cosmic ray' hypothesis to
a home for retarded folks. nobody here is dumb enough to fall for it.
ascii_field: BND is just
a random guess of mine at present, based on the de pirate party thing
ascii_field: Hasimir: yes. you can write
a proggy to create this type of key from any rsa pubkey you like.
Hasimir: I never claimed to have answers, but you guys are locked into the "it must be
a conspiracy" mindset and assuming any criticism is part of the conspiracy
☟︎ ascii_field: and why would
a 'bug' affect ONLY (!!!) 1) moduli 2) m^d mod n 3) exponent, which is ALWAYS 281479271743489 after the transformation, regardless of what it originally was 3) ALL FIELDS ARE CORRECTLY SIZED
☟︎ Hasimir: the lack of data indicating cipher prefs on
a key
trinque: if
a factored subkey has
a sig from the master key wtf
Hasimir: it's just
a question, what's the problem with asking it?
ascii_field: 'Is it possible that
a keyserver running the old, buggy PKS code
ascii_field: (who else gives
a phuck about german pirate party)
Hasimir: Phil Zimmermann isn't on that list, neither is RMS or even
a former PM of my country (and yes, it was
a real key)
ascii_field: and that the burden of proof somehow lies on the reasonable, literate folks who can see, plain as daylight, that this is as likely as
a bullet spontaneously materializing inside lincoln
ascii_field: Hasimir: you are asking me to believe that
a large number of moduli, carefully crafted such that in mutilated form, they are factorable -and- have valid sigs, is something that could somehow happen by accident.
Hasimir: no one on that list has said, "this is the answer" - they're discussing theories and you're attacking them for doing so, it seems
a bit odd
☟︎ Hasimir: proving or disproving it would require merging multiple keys across
a broad range of openpgp implementations and operating systems
☟︎ Hasimir: and he's
a 70-year-old hobbyist
ascii_field: 'Incidentally, I met one of the other guys with
a broken subkey at
ascii_field: downloaded most RSA keys from
a keyserver and tried to factor....'
ascii_field: and aha, they are already starting with 'That reminds if of
a private discussion I had last autumn. Some guy
ascii_field: subkey where both have
a valid key binding signature. Most likely
a software bug.' << possible
ascii_field: 'About 30 key with
a valid key binding but with
a partly duplicated
ascii_field: Hasimir: examine the evidence for yourself. tell me it is
a bug.
Hasimir: well, current theory from werner is it's just
a software bug
Hasimir: well, keybase might be
a little more useful (but would be better if it did not try to manage private keys for anyone)
assbot: Successfully added
a rating of 1 for Hasimir with note: new blood
trinque: Hasimir: register
a key and I'll give you
a 1 to self-voice in the future
ascii_field: 'The PGP Global Directory is not
a replacement for the PGP Web of Trust, but an additional mechanism to provide
a global foundation for the PGP Web of Trust that enables opportunistic secure communications.'
ascii_field: 'Because the PGP Global Directory allows users to manage lost keys, it cannot use cryptographic mechanisms for verification. Instead, like mailing list servers and other public Internet services, the PGP Global Directory verifies
a key by requiring
a response to
a verification email sent to each email address specified on the key.'
assbot: You rated user fluffypony on 20-Apr-2015, with
a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Points out stupidity, and promotes what matters while maintaining his humanity.
assbot: You rated user davout on 27-Apr-2015, with
a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: paymium.
ascii_field: 'In the room waited Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, who had stopped by for
a photo op and was posing
a challenge for officers discussing safe ways to get the prime minister out of the building if necessary.' << oh noez, poor muppet might lose
a string or two
trinque: the thing's
a chair and propeller
trinque: so his felony is being
a goddamn badass that built his own gyrocopter?
trinque: sure, and I hope you charge me
a good amount of margin atop cost to own one
ascii_field: trinque: well, it is also deadly-practical, like
a luger
trinque: just sounds like you're not thinking like
a business about that
trinque: that's
a couple million bezzlars tops
trinque: so if there's no path from here to there, it's not
a thing
trinque: guy's never sold
a thing in his life
trinque: these types if they can be managed at all have to be under the command of someone who doesn't give
a shit about software as art
trinque: actually better example than one road,
a highway system
trinque: example, our "end user programming environment" (bastard son of spreadsheet) would've made
a fine for-profit database editor
trinque: ascii_field: my observation working for
a few brilliant guys is that the unwillingness to break the grand vision into chewable pieces results in failure
trinque: gabriel_laddel | story time: I ran into loper-os after
a stint programming clojure as
a day job. I ended up getting evicted for playing around with CL instead of paying rent. << don't ever do this; if you can't make money doing it, you're not the guy to do it.
mircea_popescu: his heading. Some of the incidents in it are flatly incredible, others have been rearranged and romanticised, and not merely the humiliation but the persistent ORDINARINESS of everyday life has been cut out. Dali is even by his own diagnosis narcissistic, and his autobiography is simply
a strip-tease act conducted in pink limelight. But as
a record of fantasy, of the perversion of instinct that has been made possible b
mircea_popescu: "Autobiography is only to be trusted when it reveals something disgraceful.
A man who gives
a good account of himself is probably lying, since any life when viewed from the inside is simply
a series of defeats. However, even the most flagrantly dishonest book (Frank Harris's autobiographical writings are an example) can without intending it give
a true picture of its author. Dali's recently published LIFE comes under t
mircea_popescu: eh by now the us police's got to this point where
a) they're dumb enough to crash into each other and b) when it happens they'll write the wind
a ticket for reckless endangerment.
chetty: well I recall the incident about the kid getting hurt
a while back, not so sure about the court case
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> as far as i can tell, he's just another larcenous piece of shit << well, he's one of the first crop of derpy bureaucrats who thought they;'re gonna leverage the fiat state into
a position of bitcoin power in
a hostile manner.
bitstein: asciilifeform: good points. I posted it mostly as
a reaction to the knee-jerk reddit response getting all butthurt that he would do such
a thing. Of course, indifference may be the best response.
mircea_popescu: it's like... that's where the entire "mp is
a troll" thing came from.
mircea_popescu: western animation would languish until someone signed mr spiel to do 100`000 movies
a year.
mircea_popescu: if there was ever
a bad cartoon, hanna & barbera made it.
mircea_popescu: which he ran exactly like
a fish market. opressing the ever-so-creative creative ppls, and famously lacking any sort of
a sense of humour
mircea_popescu: now this man... he was
a sales manager. hired away iirc from walmart, or some such, to run an animation studio.
mircea_popescu: because fred quimby is the man that made cartoons be
a meme. tom and jerry, loony tunes, all of it.
mircea_popescu: nobody plays
a game because "i hate it but whatever, it works"
mircea_popescu: you understand good games are
a lot more elitist than good os right ?
mircea_popescu: i am more familiar with games market 20 years later by
a long shot.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do i recall correctly that at some point they squandered
a mn or so on some dumbass real estate deal ?
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 09:47:10; mircea_popescu: 1. world sucks ; 2. capitalist would pay any sum for
a world that doesn't suck ; 3. sadly that world doesn't exist ; 4. but the capitalist simply presumes it exists, and it's for sale for the money he has + 1
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 09:42:27; gabriel_laddel: Again, I would happily pay 10k-20k for
a computing environment that doesn't waste my time.
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 09:39:50; gabriel_laddel: Symbolics Inc. made quite
a bit of money - their products were not braindamaged.
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 10:04:19; gabriel_laddel: story time: I ran into loper-os after
a stint programming clojure as
a day job. I ended up getting evicted for playing around with CL instead of paying rent. I got another place, found trilema+#bitcoin-assets and... got evicted again.
gabriel_laddel: I'm not
a socialist in anycase, I support my own being evicted.
mircea_popescu: so no, for
a capitalist it is eminently impossible for something to not be and then come into being.
mircea_popescu: and as to "if you're
a capitalist everything exists" - it's
a subtle point, but in order for one to be
a capitalist, the requisite premise is "that which is is and necesarily is, and that which is not is not and necessarily is not", ie, parmenides.
mircea_popescu: moreover, and this is the important part, it's
a poor premise because only idiots start their stuff with "most people"
chetty: or chaos emerging from
a pattern
mircea_popescu: the problem with your theory is exactly that : it's
a theory. life on earth is emergent pattern in chaos, not sensible arrangement.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu thinks gabriel and janna would make
a perfect couple. << I'm almost insulted.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: if you're
a capitalist everything exists << this makes no sense to me.