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asciilifeform: other than that, i cannot comment on the linked item
jurov: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A97_R20/ i dug out this
cazalla: danielpbarron: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2zrdxz/withdrawals_halted_as_stolen_evolution_coins_make/ << is this a qntra article? <<< as far as i could tell, it's just a screenshot from btc-e chat, nothing came from btc-e themselves on the website, twitter etc etc, btc-e's email server was down too so people couldn't confirm withdrawal, so nfi if that link is even factual
trinque: I am still curious why davout uses win 3.1 to do his encryption
asciilifeform: last i checked, i actually found an appropriate board. about 1k usd for mobo alone.
ben_vulpes: i honestly don't even know how to build a workstation.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i've been wanting to build a successor to my '07 machine for a few yrs now, and at this point not sure that it will happen at all
jurov: 36 quotes waiting for bash... looks like rs work, guess i'll start asking for donations :D
ben_vulpes: doubt that i'll have time, though.
ben_vulpes: i'd like to build out a workstation this year.
ben_vulpes: 'tis why i use it.
trinque: nubbins`: I recall several instances of having done *dunno what* to fuck up my brew/macports/fink install
asciilifeform: i think the japanese call this situation 'uncanny valley'
ben_vulpes: but macos is marginal, and not at all a thing that i'm interested in hosting bitcoind on.
nubbins`: danielpbarron i'm still not sure how much is mfg subsidy and how much is dumping eol product
asciilifeform: and the cheapest entirely equivalent machine i was able to find on the market, anywhere on planet, is roughly 4x the cost
asciilifeform: i have reasons to suspect that the pogo-4 is not long for this world
asciilifeform: i'll build for apple shortly after i build for 'super nintendo'
danielpbarron: i plan on using nothing but OpenBSD whereever possible :p
nubbins`: not that i'm going to be running a node on this machine
nubbins`: that's what i'm trying to do, yes
asciilifeform: i meant was, is anyone planning to -run- on apple's os
danielpbarron: i think nubbins` has other plans
danielpbarron: ftr I do not intend to acutally use apple software; i've been putting OpenBSD on old iMacs
asciilifeform: but i dare say this is a waste of time
nubbins`: then i go rename the originals and ln -s
nubbins`: i know there is/was an "opendarwin" project
asciilifeform: at one point i had a machine going with each.
asciilifeform: i used to have a passing interest, long ago. but for all i know you have to sacrifice a son to the crocodile god to get blessing from cupertino to distribute 'app' now.
nubbins`: we don't, i've got a passing interest
vorandrew: I will be risking 11 cents if he is gonna repay
vorandrew: If I have opportunity to put aside with escrow 1 dollar and sell his debt for 89 cents
vorandrew: let's say I'm sure he is not going to repay
vorandrew: If somebody can bet money that I will not pay it back - it will be incentive
vorandrew: for example.. I wan to get loan... I want to get $95 and repay $100 in 2 months
felipelalli: I mean, rabbit out of this hat or not? This type of service is lost case?
felipelalli: and I didn't find anything very objective, but I guess you're trying to find clues that points something is weird. But after using the system, you can understand for example how joke is they reputation system.
felipelalli: I read your BTCJam article on trilema
mircea_popescu: the only similar situation i can imagine is self medication in medicine, where person goes to pharmacy swallows random pill for random ailment.
nubbins`: i'll probably get a makefile.osx done up at some point
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: thank you for the answers and the link. I'll have a look on it before comment again.
danielpbarron: in looking for a link, i found a typo in this page -> http://trilema.com/2014/guidance-there-is-no-such-thing-as-bitcoin-taint/
asciilifeform: re: bios: every portable computer i've opened in the past decade or so had the system bios stored in an eight-legged spi eeprom. one of the legs is a write-enable. in principle, not so hard to desolder & ground it.
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2014 16:43:16; mircea_popescu: since you can by design make zero-delta bets, and since the fee is 1%... bitbet is partly the reason why mixer services sort-of died last year, i'd guess.
asciilifeform: am i missing something ?
mod6: yeah, i saw that. usually on-line, you get a certain amount of sections to preview.
mod6: but yeah, i've certainly seen it in stores.
mod6: im old-school. i like real books.
mod6: it seems like a decent read. i feel like i my have read that book like a million-internet years ago.
mod6: yeah I read the two paragraphs there "portability" and "power".
mod6: i've gotta get one going here myself.
danielpbarron: i own this book and recommend it to others
mod6: i feel like the pogo is hugely important for getting a large amount of nodes out there with 0.5.3.1, that's really exciting.
danielpbarron: and if you liked that paragraph i quoted there, it's from "Absolute OpenBSD" by Michael W. Lucas
mod6: i saw thay you're getting close to 300k blocks on pogo, that's great work. keep it up!
mod6: heck, i'd love to get an R.I. running on an UltraSPARC II box or something.
danielpbarron: https://i.imgur.com/nup9VqD.png << for those who hate google
mod6: eh, i'm not sure on VAX either. i've never used it. it doesn't look like boost supports it.
mod6: im probably least clue'd on the mac side. if I had an environment to play on for a while, i could probably get it to work.
danielpbarron: i have some old macs
danielpbarron: how would i go about compiling your bitcoind for macppc?
danielpbarron: oh mod6 just the guy i want to see
nubbins`: then i guess you better not use bit(bet/coin)
asciilifeform: not interested in persuading thugs of anything through any method other than clubbing to death << what exterminator do i call. we're overrun.
nubbins`: occasionally i burn fun-sized blocks of btc just to make things a bit more tangly
mircea_popescu: i guess it's "good for the economy". heck, they're tracking "uniques", for all the good that did anyone. we still have to see the extra ounce of soap or w/e that was sold because of it, but hey.
nubbins`: i don't know how simpler to put it
nubbins`: all i see is some random coin moving around
mircea_popescu: cause i am really not interested in persuading thugs of anything through any method other than clubbing to death.
trinque: RagnarDanneskjol | trinque - i am occasionally using the nick for continued development on punks ver. << no problemo; deedbot- works for me
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt that after he ignored the "if one wins now you've gotta taint 2x as manby btc, if the other wins you lost track." bit he's in a position to grok this one, but hey.
nubbins`: i could just create a static copy of bitbet w/ a web crawler and create all the "links" i want
nubbins`: perhaps i can explain this succinctly, as i had this same convo some time ago
mircea_popescu: i understand what you are saying, and i also understand why it's stupid. you have the option to pretend like you don't see it, or not. nothing i can do thar.
Adlai: "i understand what you're saying and insist on attacking a strawman"
mircea_popescu: hey, what can i tell you.
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2015 21:32:58; fluffypony: "release the money to mircea_popescu if I send the money to mircea_popescu" is about the sum total of it
Adlai: it's much more complicated than a single number, same as you can't scalarize "trust" - but taint as i've defined it exists, in the blockchain - outside of the mind.
Adlai: ok, what i'm calling "taint" is the tree constructed by recursively collecting the inputs that led in to each utxo
mircea_popescu: Adlai didja eat dumb this morning ? i put 100 btc on one side, of your taint, and 100 btc on the other side, you don't know about. if one wins now you've gotta taint 2x as manby btc, if the other wins you lost track.
Adlai: let's say i've identified a certain address A as coins that are "not welcome here". i see it move coin to address B, so i sniff around and notice that B is a deposit address on bitbet, with winnings going to C. i add C to the list of unwelcome money.
mircea_popescu: not sure why we put it in, but i think it was the usual "customer request" stuff
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i dun recall one either.
kakobrekla: i dont recall if there ever was an approved one
fluffypony: I try
fluffypony: OMG I MUST SWITCH
nubbins`: i like these guys
mircea_popescu: yes, obviously, people working on computational theories of human intelligence are basically correct and broadly irrelevant, yes people who were working on this 30 years ago are too stupiud to follow it, because hey, they didn't grow up with a computer, like i did, and yes culture consists of a lot of fleas and relatively little treasures.
funkenstein_: We're beginning to come to grips with the idea that your brain is not this well-organized hierarchical control system where everything is in order, a very dramatic vision of bureaucracy. <-- i liked that part
funkenstein_: mircea_popescu, i thought it was interesting, but i guess not enough to finish it
funkenstein_: maybe you'd rather pay more for fresh minted coins, i hear some people prefer them
danielpbarron: then you'd destroy all those coin-days which i thought was the thing you were trying to sell
nubbins`: i'm not sure that's the word you're looking for
funkenstein_: no i just transfer it as usual
mircea_popescu: "btc-e briefly stupid this morning", i guess.
mircea_popescu: "how about you fill in the paperwork while i keep on being in charge."
nubbins`: i wonder will they halt withdrawals when draper's stolen SR bitcoins start moving to exchanges?
danielpbarron: i was planning on handing them out at porcfest as i attempt to interview people
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 07:35:50; cazalla: mircea_popescu: im thinking cazalla bingoboingo thestringpuller danielpbarron right off the bat, cazalla lemme know who else should go in the magic dozen. <<< pete_dushenski, PeterL might be interested, personally i think while nubbins` would do a great job, it's something i would look at once, put in cupboard and forget about
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1060883 << i thought it was hotels. ☝︎