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mircea_popescu: fluffypony it means the fountain of shit these people create as
a byproduct of their metabolism.
mircea_popescu: and now he's stuck in
a world where others may entertain his pretense (to "professionalism" or to "business-like" or whatever else), but
a) only third worlders, and b) only for as far as they find it net positive.
mircea_popescu: the guy spent more than it was worth (in bitcoin treading for
a pittance) to acquire
a "valuable" domain, as if
a domain name could ever be valuable.
mircea_popescu: thousands of bitcoin donated to
a shitty foundation ? gone, as is the foundation.
mircea_popescu: here's the story of
a simple country boy, one could say
a cock-eyed optimist who got himself
a number of pleabargained felonies after which the sun seemed to shine, and all his long held frustrations as to relevancy for business, intellectual prowess and whatnot seemed to realise! finally! oh, how this moment had been pined for.
fluffypony: that's the LTB podcast where I explain
a bit about it
fluffypony bearing in mind that it's on
a per-input basis
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: if you use
a 5 and the recipient then sends funds on using
a mixin of 1 then there's
a risk that the real input can be unmasked, which links it back to the previous transaction
mircea_popescu: fluffypony how does someone else using
a 1 instead of
a 5 degrade my privacy ?
fluffypony: oh - in the protocol we have
a block height that is approx. 2 years from now where the minimum mixin kicks up to 4
fluffypony: davout: yes - the sender chooses
a mixin, although in ~2 years the minimum mixin goes up to you + 4 others (for each input)
assbot: Logged on 27-05-2015 02:39:04; decimation: australia may be
a fucked up place but it is long on land
mircea_popescu: davout the problem of bloat is not something that can be individually addressed. in
a sense/under
a certain perspective this is like saying that 1800s london was incredibly smoky because of all the heating coal usage, but you could also burn clean coal, which was only slightly more expensive.
davout: you could, again if i understand correctly, decide to only spend
a single input and work in
a bitcoin-like 'degraded' mode
assbot: Logged on 27-05-2015 01:45:02; mats: fun fact: the original iPhone shipped without privilege separation, and in tandem with
a libtiff bug Chris Wade wrote an exploit that made it possible to root
a user visiting
a web page
davout: mircea_popescu: if i understood correctly it's up to the sender, the idea being that you obfuscate where the money's coming from by signing
a group of inputs that you may or may not contrel, only one of them being actually spent
assbot: Logged on 26-05-2015 23:37:37; mats:
a surprisingly large number of folks run java EE and .NET application servers
mircea_popescu: fluffypony in any case, comparisons with dead cows like zerocoin, coinjoin etc aren't interesting. i'd like to hear
a comparison with bitbet mixing, which is to my eyes the golden standard in bitcoin anonimizing of chain-visible transactions.
mircea_popescu: zero coin seems to me exactly designed as
a lizard hitler back-up, "alt-bitcoin" bs.
mircea_popescu: Other issues with ZKP include the RSA private key used to initiate the accumulator, which must be trusted to be destroyed by the generating party. << for the record, this isn't "other issues". this is enough to render the entire thing
a joke.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 26-05-2015 23:32:32; Adlai: trouble is, there'll come
a day when bitcoin inflation is lower than monflation
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-05-2015#1145932 << the problem with finance isn't "that there exist numbers" but "that there exists unknowns". fixed inflation is not fundamentally different from zero inflation just as long as the inflation is known. which of the two is more convenient (and it's purely
a matter of clerical convenience) reduces to
a discussion of whether humanity is an ever-expanding cancer or
a c
☝︎ mircea_popescu: that's it. fuckall i give
a shit about whatever any woman hummed in any circumstance and whatever tree or bird or wheeltrack through the mud.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the most that can be said of
a number produced through taking
a composite (moduli are composites - of two primes yes, but composite) and applying the 32bit mirroring process is that you'll obtain an odd number. that's it. the probability of
a number that large being prime is roughly speaking n/ln(n)
mats: taiwan is
a very nice aircraft carrier
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [01:32] rather, it is
a u.s. aircraft carrier - which simply happens to be made of earth << girl and i both lold
mats: ive been moving between x86 and arm
a lot
williamdunne: On
a different note, I have found an elderly Max Keiser!
decimation: yeah, they tried to make
a us version and it was shit
decimation: he's
a dick but that's his personality
decimation: williamdunne: yeah it's
a shame that they did in clarkson
decimation: australia may be
a fucked up place but it is long on land
☟︎ decimation: they had
a top gear uk episode recently on
a ranch in western australia I think
decimation: dijkstra: "My conclusion is that it is becoming most urgent to stop to consider programming primarily as the minimization of
a cost/performance ratio. We should recognise that already now programming is much more an intellectual challenge: the art of programming is the art of organising complexity, of mastering multitude and avoiding its bastard chaos as effectively as possible.
mats: fun fact: the original iPhone shipped without privilege separation, and in tandem with
a libtiff bug Chris Wade wrote an exploit that made it possible to root
a user visiting
a web page
☟︎ decimation: asciilifeform: ending up in
a situation where 'nobody is in charge'
decimation: I wonder how many people actually design
a server motherboard? probably less than 10
decimation: so apparently the evidence is that you can buy loyalty by employing h1b serfs, not by paying contractors in
a derpy bureaucracy
decimation: also there must be
a significant taiwan connection, because that's where the buggy hardware is made
decimation: there is
a mysterious world that exists behind the nda's of american megatrends, intel, and microsoft
assbot: Logged on 22-07-2014 20:06:04; Mats_cd03: and, there is an ACPI table exclusively for telling Windows not to apply fixes for buggy hardware because its in
a VM, and VMM emulation of the hardware doesn't include said bugs.
Vexual: too expensive didnt read but ive been bitten by
a fireant
hanbot: <Adlai> it's only information if you care about it << that'd be
a great creed for #bitcoin-assets-candyland
BingoBoingo: So I joined #bitcoin-assets-trades and strongly recommend it. So much lulz when assbot reports the Havelol trades. Good for at least
a chuckled every time I check the feed there
mats: fun fact: there is
a particular ACPI table in that you can put anywhere in
a low range of memory during boot, and Windows will take the payload data, drop it as an EXE, and run it as SYSTEM.
☟︎ mats:
a surprisingly large number of folks run java EE and .NET application servers
☟︎ mats: ive noticed
a lot of municipalities using it
Adlai: trouble is, there'll come
a day when bitcoin inflation is lower than monflation
☟︎ williamdunne: Constant issuance rather than
a hard ceiling like we have in bitcoin
williamdunne: And there is
a proposal to automatically reset historical blockchain every x days/months/years to resolve transaction size issue
williamdunne: Mining constantly incentivized by permanent sub 1% inflation, and
a dynamic block size which allows something like the median block size of past week +20%
Adlai: i guess
a better question is "what does 'not Gavin-sized' mean"
Adlai slaps williamdunne around
a bit with
a large trout
Apocalyptic: ;;later tell mircea_popescu maybe i'm misunderstanding something simple but you could give such
a factor for 0xffaaccddffaaccdd3c4b7ff83c4b7ff8 , it's
a random 128 bit number constructed as the moduli in question, ( and 0x1000000000000000100000000 does not divide it)
Apocalyptic: myeah but this is in base 10 and you're using the fact that it's divisible by 11 which is 10^1+1 because you mirror only 1 digit-base here, it's exactly analogous to my " every N has 641 and 6700417 as prime factors" earlier claim since notice that 641*6700417 = 2^32 + 1, which corresponds to
a 32-bit mirror window length
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> anyway : mirrored moduli will necessarily have
a factor of the form 0x00000001000000000000000100000000000000010000000000000001000000000000000100000000000000010000000000000001000000000000000100000000 // how so ?
hegemoOn:
a "nanex" like study about 4 months trade on bitstamp
mircea_popescu: first off,
a market is not
a "device".
a market is
a PLACE. second off, markets exist in unfungible goods - fungibility is not involved. third off, markets exist ONLY with currency, which IS NOT
a good. on it goes.
mircea_popescu: "Of course, we can't understand prediction markets until we understand markets.
A market in any two fungible goods,
A and B, is any device for discovering the
A/B ratio P which equalizes D, the number of people who want to trade P units of
A for one unit of B, with S, the number of people who want to trade one unit of B for P units of
A."
mircea_popescu: anyway : mirrored moduli will necessarily have
a factor of the form 0x00000001000000000000000100000000000000010000000000000001000000000000000100000000000000010000000000000001000000000000000100000000
ascii_field: now write down n as
a diophantine equation
mircea_popescu: well, sure, there could be all sorts of classes, but there's no call to poke at crabs with
a window wiper.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field and you don't see
a case where such
a modulo would not be detected owing to the happenstance that it shares no factors with other keys ?
ascii_field: though, for rigour's sake, i will add that n is
a multiple-of-64 bits-long, and is nonzero
ascii_field: at any rate, we now have
a rigorous definition of the type of integer we are concerned with:
ascii_field: which is to say, it so happens that all the mods which had bottom 64 bits be
a mirror pair (as per my original mods-only litmus) had full shebang.
mircea_popescu: moreover, if they did, the result would have to be
a divisor that's more like 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 etc.
mircea_popescu: jurov in any case, the dumbass "prediction market" thing has
a core of rabid fandom, sort-of like whatever subcultural obscura
Apocalyptic: i'm just getting started, do you have built such
a thing ?
ascii_field: Apocalyptic: proggy which breaks all of the magic moduli on ordinary pc in
a few sec.
ascii_field: or at least, will fail often (when both factors of
a modulus appear an even number of times)
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: have
a cup'o'coffee (or standard dose of whatever your favourite performance-enhancing dope) and you'll see it.
trinque: "prediction markets" ... "not
a real-money market" ... *predictions down to the cent on price/node count*
trinque: jurov: whoever wrote that sounds like
a drooling moron