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assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 13:56:10; asciilifeform: reminds me of how when clinton was half-heartedly prosecuting microshit for antitrust violations, some 'think tank' (cato? i forget) had a 'microsoft defense fund' that the public was invited to contribute to !
mircea_popescu: but no, i dun think its meaningful without the film
trinque: should I be able to parse the quotation without the film?
trinque: I haven't
trinque: I don't follow
trinque: though I admire more the man who creates the better place
trinque: I have to admire someone who dies with a finger pointed at someplace better.
mircea_popescu: jurov i couldn't agree more.
mircea_popescu: since somehow "tradition" was for a while cognate with "don't need to read or write or even know history, tradition is what i say it is", there was a major, multi-secular migration towards "liberalism"
jurov: um, i can't put the finger exactly there
mircea_popescu: so i agree that punishing the plebs for being "bicurious" or "metrosexual" or "gender confused" or "Transsexual" or w/e is really silly, they're simply sexless.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, i dunno that there's something magical about the office automatically requiring this.
mircea_popescu: i dunno about that.
mircea_popescu: see, to propose honor is somehow in the job ie external rather than i nthe person seems nonsense.
jurov: actually that is what i meant, office rats can't really have honor. and without honor, also no role
nubbins`: dwell 10s while i print the next one, rotate again etc
nubbins`: i lay down a print, swing the arm 90deg to the left
mircea_popescu: i thought this was used on a feeder, not 1 shirt at a time
trinque: I doubt I have the culture to even talk about honor but that seems in the ballpark
trinque: http://www.ibtimes.co.in/turkey-guilt-ridden-japanese-engineer-kills-self-harakiri-style-over-bridge-collapse-627096 << not harakiri as I understand it, but still
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i somehow doubt that guy has a problem with traffic.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see you got the boards delivert ?
trinque: time to time I regress to the delusion that somewhere within the state's there's still actual entrepreneurship
mircea_popescu: but i wouldn't revisit.
mircea_popescu: i loved texas in 2004ish. san antonio esp.
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-03-2015#1067551 << which is why japan even still exists anymore. they made it to california, that imploded, now they're moving to texas and places. i was kinda snickering at trinque's explosion yest, bexause well... texas won't survive the idiots either.
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-03-2015#1067542 << for the record, moving is easy, but a year later and with tons and tons of support and roots and whatnot i still throw almost-daily tantrums
nubbins`: danielpbarron assuming same bdb, i'd say they're interchangeable
ascii_field: anyways i'ma do another buildroot tonight.
trinque: I like how they put 90mb/sec with a fucking asterisk on the thing's sticker
nubbins`: i said usb2 on purpose 8)
danielpbarron: and no, i haven't tried that
danielpbarron: maybe it's a bad thumb drive i have
ascii_field: i got pretty good results with usb3
danielpbarron: maybe i did it wrong or something; USB3 theoretically should be very fast
nubbins`: danielpbarron i'm wondering same but re: usb thumb
trinque: I am fine with doing the tortoise test
ascii_field: i tried this
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: how soon can we have it << i personally will dust it off tonight and say where it's at before i turn in for the night
nubbins`: much of today will be useful in the future, i'm putting a pin in it
trinque: or should I get this usm thing
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i said that above eh.
nubbins`: oh fuck, why don't i read
nubbins`: <+ascii_field> no one remembers? posted bins too <<< i remember!
ascii_field: unless some bug was -introduced- since i last played with bitcoind, it should work ok on 32
mircea_popescu: i guess that'll be useful for mod6 as a reminder, tho i think he knows.
ascii_field: i built for 32!
mircea_popescu: ascii_field well, i can see a 32 brew of bitcoind coming soonish, is this tacklable to go with it ?
ascii_field: since everyone seems to be 'axe time sword time coooming clooser' i guess it's time for me to actually fix it
mircea_popescu: jurov i dun see there's a difference.
jurov: i guess these roles were fit for manually working males, "inconvenient" for office rats
ascii_field: i've a http://buildroot.uclibc.org for pogov4
trinque: mircea_popescu: heh I don't mind; am merely setting expectations
mircea_popescu: <trinque> as if I don't have enough going on :p << hey, in my spare time i'm designing a fucking game. up to my neck in, of all things, mysql!
trinque: so I want red/pink/whatever
nubbins`: i'm prob'ly gonna grab 50 or so once i'm satisfied i can make it work
mircea_popescu: i bought hundreds.
trinque: as if I don't have enough going on :p
trinque: I'm going to just buy one of these fuckers and pitch in
danielpbarron: right, but i'm just offering alternatives to ArchLinux (which is also on disk)
danielpbarron: oh, i guess the reason no gentoo was the kernel and userland are bigger; but if it's not going into the eeprom gentoo should work
jurov: i can do C/system programming fine but gotta pay bills... stepped aside from this for now
mircea_popescu: i see.
danielpbarron: i'm not so busy, but not so capable
mircea_popescu: so basically, i surmise, we'd have liked a clean "os in eeprom, data on disk" arrangement, but it seems we're not actually capable to do this, and so as a backstop you tried a few oses to go on disk
mircea_popescu: i see.
danielpbarron: i was holding out for the thing that gets installed in the eeprom
danielpbarron: ascii did not brew the OS i'm using
danielpbarron: so far i've gotton both debian and archlinux to work on a pogo
danielpbarron: debian works well on pogo, i'm ircing from it right now
mircea_popescu: "on this one plane i tried"
danielpbarron: well i didn't start it from scratch; I copied .bitcoin from the sata one
nubbins`: <+danielpbarron> i also had one going that was using a USB3 stick -- stopped it after a week or so when it was clearly way too slow <<< how far'd you get?
danielpbarron: i mean, is the pogo being 32 bit a bigger problem? like is 32 bit becoming obsolete or something?
danielpbarron: i was lead to believe that getting it to work on 32 bit wasn't that big of a deal, just low priority
mircea_popescu: mod6 so the emerging problem here is that while i said "ok" to 64 bit only foundation bitcoind, it turns out when need 32 bit support for our own fucking projects, which notably is the pogo.
mircea_popescu: o fucking hell check out the gross mismanagement i managed to bless the world with.
danielpbarron: i tried to build it for my gentoo laptop and it errored out
danielpbarron: no, i compiled the dynamic foundation bitcoind
danielpbarron: i think another unsolved problem is that we don't know how to compile a linux kernel that works
danielpbarron: easier yes, in that i don't know any alternatives that work yet
danielpbarron: and then later i found a guide for debian, but the bitcoind was still dynamic and wouldn't work on it
nubbins`: if we're talking about a "pogo node" as a kit that one can purchase, i think, it's fine to start with w/e distro, booting from SD, skull-and-crossbones patches, w/e
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im gonna unwind this thing cause i think it ran into a problem.
mircea_popescu: "dude, get into this thing you're great for it pays excellent" "oh, i do ok... and i know what food costs." "listen to me... you're not supposed to know what food costs."
danielpbarron: i'm getting slaughtered at the supermarket
danielpbarron: good to know there are other options; i woudln't mind supplementing my income
mircea_popescu: i wish upon my enemies to be here with me
danielpbarron: i move millions of dollars worth of stuff over the course of a month or two
nubbins`: and i wouldn't call myself, y'know, outstanding
danielpbarron: well i'm also really good at LTL, heh
mircea_popescu: i haven't seen asciiart technical drawings in documents since the 90s.
nubbins`: i have pogo x2 on the way, i'm gonna dig into this
danielpbarron: i also had one going that was using a USB3 stick -- stopped it after a week or so when it was clearly way too slow
danielpbarron: refresh, i just added the other
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i meant, how are they different.
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: I'd already started on it
mod6: Sorry! I'll get you something tonight :)
mod6: Our goal is to get this resolved, but I think it seriously is going to take some effort. Part of going forward from this release is going to be breaking down goals and getting them lined up. I have high hopes to discuss much of this at the Cnof.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: one of these things is not like the other, i think