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mp_en_viaje: this is the insescapable pit of the problem : back in sovok 70s, an array of young men was +ev. may take some cleanning / training / tooling / whatever, but, basically, ev.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: dunno re orcistans, but over here they ask you to type the addr into a pnojetron and then blindly go where it points.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938390 << but you can't. because it's raining. or because "the game". or because fucktard "can't find the address". or because etcetera. the contemporary 20yo, always and everywhere the driving force of this job (if never the demographic majority) is not mentally capable,
asciilifeform: iguess it wasn't from 'empty space' that the robotic cabs crackpottery began to seem appealing
mp_en_viaje: it pains me to say it, but it's a fact : cabs aren't really a thing anymore. uber-stupid now.
mp_en_viaje: turks got a cooler country than germans now.
asciilifeform: hm i thought in germany turks were the 'pakis'
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, same thing in germany.
mp_en_viaje: it's dead, the whole "oh, cab's great, talk to cabbie get all the infos, solve all the problems, what you want in your life is like two dozen medallioned cars and the people who work them" is as much an artefact of aforetimes as "man who can cut veal"
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: fwiw over here in north reich , they're ~solidly india/paki
asciilifeform: i suppose the ex-sovok phf cabbies all finally died of old age, eh
mp_en_viaje: i used to own cars i mostly wasn't using, on the idea that "whatever, nothing wrong with owning it, can always set it to cabwork"
mp_en_viaje: the sort of people you can hire to do the work are to ofuckign moronic to qualify as cows, no farm would hire them to be the livestock
asciilifeform always had vaguely positive impression of modern iran. tho possibly simply on acct of its abuse by the reich
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 18:45:13 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 1 immediate observation -- the cabs were so cheap , transport dun seem to be major problem ( from asciilifeform's admittedly brief expedition )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: pretty neat, always wanted to see a mp_en_viaje reportage of iran & co
mp_en_viaje: after current trip i intend to go south later this year, istanbul, syria, mebbe dip into iran, all the way to cairo
mp_en_viaje: anyway. this will have to suspend at least until after http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-26#1931292
mp_en_viaje: hey asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=f%3Amirc+%22+east%22&chan=trilema << why is this returning "at least" ?
mp_en_viaje: anyway. this will have to suspend at least until after ....
asciilifeform: iirc BingoBoingo actually investigated south asia when initial isp expedition. they have oddity where bw to ~outside~ of region is astronomically priced.
mp_en_viaje: to not even talk of what it'd get you in say thailand, or vietnam.
asciilifeform: rright but you wouldn't want to isp in kew .
mp_en_viaje: and, literally, the sort of prices they quote will get you a much nicer thing in kew gardens or w/e.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, very nice work ; but this seems untenable on the face. i mean, even the san francisco "premium" bezzleworld's been losing 2-3-5% a year, each year, since 2015 or so. and 2s and 3s ealirer, 5s and above these days, 2019 may well close more like 7%
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, ikr ? literally, if you're willing to pay 20-30 a sqft you get to pick.
asciilifeform 'ruined for life' re prices when went to ro, nao outraged that errywhere else seems to cost 10x moar
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 18:55:50 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The widely reported years ago on numerous blogs conventional wisdom is that everything is for sale and ~40-60 percent negotiated off the asking prices was a common practice. This needs to be investigated if moving forward.
asciilifeform: they all seem to cost 1-1.5k $ / sq m., aha. tho BingoBoingo seems to have found that they haggle .
mp_en_viaje: Asking 185,000 USD, apparently under contract,94 m² << but this is like $200 per sqft ?!
mp_en_viaje: it's stil la pleasure to read bb prose. both well researched and well written, "The primary center of activity in this area is the Punta Carretas Shopping where many of the Frente Amplio's elders were incarcerated at some point." top keks
mp_en_viaje: with the taxi once hitting a high speed near 30 km/h << fucking makes my skin crawl. the car AVERAGED like 110
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: The Kommunalka Uruguaya in the form of Pensiones are targeted strictly to single people. Very similar to Ye Olde Boarding house without the actual provision of board.
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness, let's put mp_en_viaje's test here ( #a-test is a garbage chan and aint logged )
asciilifeform: with previous bot, sync was gnarly, had to do each chan separately always.
asciilifeform: ty for test mp_en_viaje . there's also a raw-all knob (to make syncs easier) , contains all logged material from all enabled chans.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 13:11:29 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we weren't even in hruscheba, but in the 19th-c-converted-to-kommunalka . still 100% square walls.
asciilifeform: resetting bot is painful enuff operation that would like to get these 100% nailed before deploy
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: can i persuade you to pop into #asciilifeform-test for 5min ? ( to see format of crosspost-indication-enabled bot that i'ma be rotating in tonight )
mp_en_viaje was planning to get on earlier but then... well, things got captivating.
mp_en_viaje: yay ty
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in Retard on the other side of the River: http://archive.is/jIoIS "El Banco Central difundió el listado de las personas que compraron más de USD 10.000 por mes"
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/2011-to-2017-idevices-jailbroken-via-apple-bootrom-exploit/ << Qntra -- 2011 To 2017 iDevices Jailbroken Via "Apple Bootrom" Exploit
diana_coman: asciilifeform: aha; thanks.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: which, observe, bans the infested udev among other associated fungi.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: he appears to know about asciilifeform's orig. fumigated gentoo .
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, it's for the irc task, I gave thimbronion the list of acceptable and banned stuff; he had this older gentoo on which he had said eudev and unsure about it.
asciilifeform: i.e. the item that used to be 'udev' before the fungus got to it.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-12-19 18:23:09 trinque: "eudev" exists as an alternative to the systemd-udev. dunno what else the heathens stapled to systemd meanwhile
diana_coman: does anyone know what eudev is? (apparently some gentoo fork of udev working with openrc but unclear at this point if it's at all acceptable on a system)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 11:50:01 feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a3-thetarpit-lbs-genesis.html << The Tar Pit -- The Tar Pit Lisp Blog Scaffolding genesis
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-27#1938420 << spyked this is pretty interesting. is that a coupla 100kB of base64'd fontisms in there ? ( and, apparently buncha perl-genned ???! in 1 of the cl libs ?! )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in misc. strange from the lint traps .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: in recent years, asciilifeform's experience was 'trb-grade box is ~100 $ / mo just about anywhere' , so consistent with this.
asciilifeform has habit similar to mircea_popescu's of commenting prior to fully eating $text
diana_coman: well, tbh I wouldn't consider it "accepts btc" if not; but yes, that's why I wrote it black on white.
asciilifeform: oh nm it's in the article
asciilifeform: diana_coman: outta curiosity, were the btc receiver addrs they genned, trb-compat ?
diana_coman: once I get their response either way, I'll update the article; let's see.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I just fired up an email to them, as the article promisses
asciilifeform: 49 € / mo. for e.g. trb box, aint bad, imho.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sounds notbad for a heathen shop, except for the last part. perhaps if you write to the fella and describe wot, he'll get in.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a3-thetarpit-lbs-genesis.html << The Tar Pit -- The Tar Pit Lisp Blog Scaffolding genesis
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-13 13:02:11 mircea_popescu: anyway : i'm willing to bet migration ~will~ be trivial ; and i am very curious to find out why not if indeed not
spyked: initial investigation shows that that indeed shouldn't be too painful, probably along the lines of wp_insert_post for each post. will still take some manual labour to verify that posts display well, but that's not burning, so I can do it as I go along with other work.
spyked: in other news, I'm in the process of standing up a mp-wp for thetarpit and migrating posts from the current platform there. will post a genesis for the current blog later today and then work out a plan for migration
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 13:19:48 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: once the new voice model comes in, is the L1 redefined accordingly too? iirc there are some priviledges such as "can use feedbot & deedbot only if in L1", right? spyked or trinque might correct me here.
spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938376 <-- hm. I suppose feedbot could do something along the lines of "talk (via PM) only to people who are already +v in the channels where bot is listening"; either way, there's currently no strict enforcement in place, I'll add something if/when it becomes necessary
spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937811 <-- tyvm!
mircea_popescu: aite, /me shall bbs on the travel console!
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-26 11:50:37 mircea_popescu: think abougt it, isn't a priori post something you'd want ? :D
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938254 << depends on the experience
BingoBoingo: Before investigating transit times it had probably been a good three months since I'd been inside a vehicle. Present tranportation costs consist of food calories above basal metabolic rate and a few cents a day in shoe/boot depreciation.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: granted you won't be building a secondary dc in the garage, with gsm, but oughta suffice, i suspect, for work
BingoBoingo: The local telecom's preferred solution for rural internet is cellular.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: errywhere i set foot seemed to have ok gsm coverage tho
BingoBoingo: One other complication leaving the central municipalities C, B, CH, and E involves incomplete coverage of the residential fiber network.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: admitting that this puzzler is out of asciilifeform's paygrade -- imho getting even the smallest of these barracks would be a massive win.
BingoBoingo: Go one or two streets back and just about everything without a for sale or for rent sign lights up at some point during the week.
BingoBoingo: Most of the apartments along the short of the Rambla here in Pocitos are never lit, never show signs of life, suggesting absentee owners
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As of 2013 through a bilateral treaty the shelter part of the arrangement went out. From where I'm sitting it is hard to tell which way the Argentine winds will push
asciilifeform: aha but argentards back 'in the saddle' nao
BingoBoingo: The advertised asking prices have been inching down since I arrived. I suspect the former use of property in Uruguay as a shelter from Argentine taxes kept real estate prices artificially high.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The widely reported years ago on numerous blogs conventional wisdom is that everything is for sale and ~40-60 percent negotiated off the asking prices was a common practice. This needs to be investigated if moving forward.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, there's also taxi strikes ~every other month. Taxis don't run on holidays except by prior arrangement.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 1-2k $ / m^2 seems astonishingly high for an orcistan. but then again i aint expert on subj
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's, what, 7.3k/yr if you do it erry day. still cheaper than auto+extortions+fuel+etc afaik
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They add up. The just under 10 km ride to Prado was 390 pesos going there, 340 pesos returning after traffic settled, for ~20 USD round trip.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 1 immediate observation -- the cabs were so cheap , transport dun seem to be major problem ( from asciilifeform's admittedly brief expedition )
BingoBoingo: ^ asciilifeform et al, the awaited survey of the real estate situation
mircea_popescu: meanwhile it looks like ima have to review the trackback model also, as it turns out the new select style can spam trackbacks ( http://trilema.com/2019/the-freenode-issue/#comment-131559 and on)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: once the new voice model comes in, is the L1 redefined accordingly too? iirc there are some priviledges such as "can use feedbot & deedbot only if in L1", right? spyked or trinque might correct me here.
diana_coman: ah, now I see it re thimbronion.com - he tripped over his own feet, didn't he; fwiw he got told off for it and he fixed it; anyway that "plan" needs revising.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-20 12:05:15 diana_coman: hanbot: you have broken trilema links on your blog as they still use polimedia.us eg those in http://thewhet.net/2012/11/shall-be-delivered/
hanbot: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937445 << oughta be fixed nao, ty for the notice!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: he has http://thimbron.com/ for some reason; /me will catch up with the logs now
lobbes: and now that I know that sync-ism is not wanted with wp-mp logger, I have 0 doubts about this nixing. The wonders of the forum for clarifying courses of action never cease
lobbes: buut, I realise now this was kinda dumb. All the data (both "meta" and otherwise) is already inserted into the mysql db ffs. (i.e. if python crashes, I just... query mysql for last article updated and can get the post ID and last updated date, as well as read the contents field into memory). I will nix the flatfile-ism in short order
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-26 07:31:58 mircea_popescu: and why the fuck flatfile intermediary anywya, what is this, medieval clockwork ?! what's it needed for ?!
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938178 << this was a crackpottery I initially came up with to deal with an imagined problem. The "problem" being that I did not want to keep things like "meta data" and the current day's log lines stored in python memory, lest it crashes and loses that data