asciilifeform: which handily explains why A2-A4 vanished.
asciilifeform: [02:07:54] [mircea_popescu] ALL these ~happened~ to somehow drop out of mempools ? << from the document << later we learn that prb DROPS what it deems 'doublespend' SOLELY based on chronology.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: it sounds reasonable. except that i suspect that most of the users will cry, 'how do i transmit a tx?111 waaah'
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: mircea_popescu sent the first tx. noticed that it has apparently vanished from the fact of the earth. what is the thing to do in that case ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's observations best fit the 'there is no longer a reliable network' model.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i ~really~, very much, hate the miners. but i do not have the smoking gun that tells us that they were at fault.
asciilifeform: PeterL: i have nfi how mircea_popescu concluded that miners were involved. the only clue i have is that it has recently come out that the top cn miners have formed a derp committee of some kind, apparently for purposes of negotiated separate peace with the enemy
asciilifeform: nubbins`: what does the listing agreement say re: what to do, as a shareholder, if you think mp has been afflicted by martian brain parasites and broke the agreement ?
asciilifeform: anyway i have no idea if mircea_popescu send the 'doubles' because he was pissed and mashing keys, or if he forgot that most of the node network is run by imbeciles who go by chronology to 'resolve doublespend', or what. ask him, not me.
asciilifeform: where he had to use mysterymeat input of his own
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i thought your objection was precisely to a4
asciilifeform: what was bbet (or mircea_popescu at the console, or imagine youself there instead) do instead ?
asciilifeform: so he sends A1, and notices that it is in limbo.
asciilifeform: PeterL: what, i am curious, would you have done ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: this is not true, see the onetimepad thread, mp admitted that he made an arithmetical mistake once !
asciilifeform: nubbins`: my current hypothesis is that he did not intend a reactor test, but simply allowed the transmitter to calculate a default fee, which turned out to be 0, and sent.
asciilifeform: you are on a nuke sub. captain, having been informed by six different crew members that reactor coolant has been replaced with pisswater, and the valve gaskets - with chewing gum, gives in to the temptation to run a test.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought this was quite apparent long ago
asciilifeform: when mircea_popescu said 'miners' i assumed he had intelligence pointing in that direction.
asciilifeform: it could have easily been a node operator.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imho the relevant bit here is that we (at least i) do not know ~who~ withheld it, and then exhumed and transmitted it, and why
asciilifeform: from the sturles thread, i learned that most idiot nodes are set up to ignore what they think is 'double spend' on purely chronological what-i-saw-first grounds. and mircea_popescu was mighty pissed, and i also (to me, this was new, i do not habitually track prbism)
asciilifeform: (or cannot prove without blowing up a glass cannon)
asciilifeform: i'm wondering if mircea_popescu is not in a position similar to the familiar murder mystery detective, where he ~knows~ that dr. evil did the deed, but cannot prove.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: imho the shareholders have a legit complaint re: the reactor test, and ought to be told why/what/etc. but i'm not a s.bbet shareholder, and nobody asked me (tm) etc.
asciilifeform: they sorta died away when hardware became largely disposable crud.
