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nubbins`: mircea_popescu HEH. the first and last time i used test-lead wires for a permanent project.

assbot: Logged on 29-03-2015 17:03:51; chetty: <Chillum> the whole hierarchy of trust used to issue certs is of course bunk// for some reason when I read that I wondered if anyone would trust a cert issued by Obama? If not why would you accept one from any 'lesser' authority in the same chain?

mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-03-2015#1078838 << amusingly enough, i would.

nubbins`: here's a hot mess i made from a pocket-size synth, alongside original unit for reference

asciilifeform: when i ran across the 2MB linksys, my thought was 'linux is obese if can't fit in 2MB'

mircea_popescu: i had one of those

nubbins`: TBH i think they did include rootability as a hobbyist bonus, AND they made way, way too many

nubbins`: asciilifeform i tried it with one of my pogos

Chillum: I think that sometimes companies intentionally make their devices rootable because they know hobbyists will buy boxes of them if they can root it

mircea_popescu: but i have, and i tell you... people who can act are RARE.

mircea_popescu: srsly now. this theory of yours would be perhaps appealing had i not spent any time on a set.

mircea_popescu: if he could act that well i'd know his name.

mircea_popescu: as in "of course i could but i wonder how this woman is trying to trick me" ?

asciilifeform: 'I have had a chance to observe quite a few companies in the U.S. from the inside, and have spotted a certain constancy in the staffing profile. At the top, there is a group of highly compensated senior lunch-eaters. They tend to spend all of their time pleasing each other in various ways, big and small. They often hold advanced degrees in disciplines such as Technical Schmoozing and Relativistic Bean-counting. They are obsess

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can think of an alternate hypothesis about the flashlight thing

Chillum: nubbins`: neat, I assume you open the telnet port?

mircea_popescu: patron-client relationship is what i tought you meant, off the ancient post-imperial and late-imperial model.

Adlai: last i checked, farmer = serf

Adlai: s/i/oniz/

mircea_popescu: and i mean... the fact that us young adults score worse than anyone else is not a direct product. they worked to get there : the school's so dumb, why learn ; the kids aren't learning anyway why not make it dumber... 30 years later in this process the fucking mit grads can't make a flashlight

mircea_popescu: i participated in a bdsm chan for a few days, it was painful.

mircea_popescu: i thought most certs were ecdsa

mircea_popescu: Chillum i'm just going through the logs. pretty much everyone here reads the whole shebang.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think he was speaking of rsa per se

asciilifeform: ^ so in principle these can be reimplemented with the nand tools i have included. ☟︎

asciilifeform: what i wanted to do was to build something suitable for reflashing into virginal pogos for dev work

jurov: even if i wrote it was *not* one

asciilifeform: this one isn't as neat as it sounds. i thought BR_PACKAGE_UBOOT_TOOLS will add with fw_xxxxx on the target rootfs but seems like no. these will have to be added as packages

mircea_popescu: it occurs to me... don't these dating speshulists sound very much like the classical shaman ? "you are under a terrible dark curse kind sir" "i will fix it".

mircea_popescu: something the imbecillians (is it ok if i refer to people born in the 80s as the imbecillians, given the poor results discussed yest ? generation y seems improper) all forgot.

mircea_popescu: i dun't see why not. "numbnuts" ?

assbot: Logged on 29-03-2015 15:59:56; Chillum: I don't trust pdfs, so many vulnerabilities in the past

asciilifeform: i am very much against allowing it into bitcoind per se

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no i know, i was just amused at ther possible solutions :D

mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-03-2015#1078762 << i dun recall it ever being a debate, vast consensus against it.

asciilifeform: Chillum: i take it you are the only one accessing the systems in question ?

Chillum: I generally sign my own keys based on my own master cert

chetty: <Chillum> the whole hierarchy of trust used to issue certs is of course bunk// for some reason when I read that I wondered if anyone would trust a cert issued by Obama? If not why would you accept one from any 'lesser' authority in the same chain?

asciilifeform: i very much do not.

asciilifeform: Chillum: i'm not certain that any of the #b-a regulars believe it to have been a bug.

nubbins`: <+Chillum> If I told everyone it would get patched <<< lel

Chillum: I sort of want to make a portable rasp-pi that automatically roots and then secures wifi routers, as a public service

Chillum: just based off what I have seen in the wild around here

jurov: that's why nerds should maintain them themselves, and i don't mean reflash openwrt and forget

punkman: I looked into something that'd replace my modem/router but it seems I'll have to build a mini-itx or something

jurov: i can understnd if you have old samba open or so

Chillum: If I told everyone it would get patched

Chillum: I have seen sniffing software installed on routers before

Chillum: I also use open wifi near my place so I don't expose my netwrok

Chillum: I have a live cd and a laptop with no other storage I use for such things

Chillum: I don't trust pdfs, so many vulnerabilities in the past

asciilifeform: i did not include ntp

asciilifeform: i will suggest that all subsequent patches for buildroot per se, be published as diffs from the one i posted last night

asciilifeform: nubbins`: i posted sha512's for my set, also.

Naphex: so i just stopped the contract and moved to a normal DC

Naphex: i tried out some BTC provider and they had a stupid rule of cutting the upstream when you get more then 65k packets/s

mircea_popescu: i was gonna send that indian chick your way but then you weren't online

nubbins`: i use papyrus for programming and verdana for irc

ben_vulpes: if they're good i'll get there on my own

ben_vulpes: i'm experimenting.

mircea_popescu: i use monospace

ben_vulpes: Chillum: it bears mentioning that i use the same rendering stack for irc as i do for programming

mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-03-2015#1078620 << i was just reading that

decimation: with that I must retire

decimation: I can't test it, but there were no bad-looking warnings

asciilifeform: i can't help but think of 'aradruin' when i see it

decimation: ok I'm not building on crazy vm fs

decimation: ah I might have skipped the make pogoplug_defconfig setup

decimation: I'll recreate

decimation: okay I think my build error is something to do with the shitty vm cross-mount filesystem and case sensitivity

asciilifeform: i think we end up using busybox tar

decimation: I mean tar isn't on the manifest

asciilifeform: i think i also forgot to build any mtd utils

asciilifeform: i mean, if you lacked tar,

asciilifeform: decimation: i think local tar ends up untarring things

asciilifeform: wherever i go

asciilifeform: trinque: i like to mark code that folks can use to kill themselves, with it

decimation: I'm running 2.6.32

decimation: yeah I'm not saying it was your fault

asciilifeform: ('nope' as in, i did not patch anything remotely close to there)

decimation: seems like I am missing a kernel header

asciilifeform: i remember saving to buy an 8M stick.

trinque: I merely baked from the recipe

trinque: I just copied it over what was already in the tftp dir

trinque: because I'm a lazy fuck and copied the thing over that filename instead of updating uboot

trinque: and I'm in via telnet

mod6: iirc i had to put my pubkey in a dpaste and then do something like `deedbot-: import <dpaste-url>`

asciilifeform: i was supposed to -do- something ?

mircea_popescu: i think colon got taken out

mircea_popescu: actually i suppose the correct thing would be to move the whole shebang on maillist

mircea_popescu: if you wish to save the set you used and sign it, i'll host the lot

asciilifeform: is what i was speaking of.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i mean, you can trivially make -from the net- = localhost

nubbins`: saveenv wat? haha, i booted into debian to fw_setenv ;/

decimation: shit no nevermind I was in the wrong terminal and accidently built on osx :)

nubbins`: <+cazalla> while i await danielpbarron's response, anyone want to suggest why the pogo flashes green after following his guide after a reboot? <<< i fucked up setting some of the fw_setenv parameters. you'll prolly need to serial into it, next time use fw_printenv to double check all your boot cmds before you commit

decimation: asciilifeform: sigh "../gnu/at-func.c: In function 'setxattrat': xattr-at.c:36:20: error: too few arguments to function 'setxattr' #define AT_FUNC_F1 setxattr" < I'm looking into it

asciilifeform: if i make it to the middle - i do it. otherwise, trying to leave enough of a record here for the next fella.

asciilifeform: i said 'device'

asciilifeform: i didn't say 'custom ic'