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mircea_popescu: apparently a nude statemet of "florian werner knew exactly what the hole was, to an extent larger than what was at the time specified" doesn't coalesce into "holy shit, florian weimer puts the security holes in there!"
mircea_popescu: hem, including the ones that hadn't been fully characterized when he proposed it. His approach was approved by general consensus and that's what we all use today - partly because he put in the time and effort to fix the broader issue, not just the specific case that had been identified. This approach means that sometimes it takes Red Hat a while to release a fix, but when they do, it's the right fix."
mircea_popescu: "* An example of Red Hat's "find and fix the whole issue, not just the obvious part", is shell shock. After the initial CVE for shell shock, several people proposed different ways of fixing it. Florian was one, he quickly worked on it and released a proposed patch. Over the next few days there were three MORE CVEs for shell shock, covering different variations on the same theme. Florian's initial patch covered all of t
mircea_popescu: except if it were actually present, no "ruining" would have been possible
mircea_popescu: that enchanted thing that never existed except in retrospect, when some derp is complaining to the judge that someone else "ruined it".
mircea_popescu: more like the equivalent of "domestic bliss" from the lulzy institution of singles-marriage.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, castro's dollar bought more kennedy than kennedy's dollar bought castro.
mircea_popescu: <shinohai> "The developers of that software put out a bounty to murder one of the developers of Bitcoin Core. Needless to say, no one sane will go anywhere near them." <<< KEK << needless to say, no one "sane" for that definition of sane has anything of any value or interest to offer, to anyone.
mircea_popescu: he's a well known liar, next you're going to what, tell me what karpeles said ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: thestringpuller luke-jr also claimed bfl delivered his order. then it turned out it was a "prototype" and outright payola.
mircea_popescu: so they gotta pretend there's this mystical reservoir of metaphysics that'll readily provide differentiation qs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> mircea_popescu ? <<< you know, if you ask obama what exactly is his contribution past blind tom wiggins he'll also say "important security fixes". it is somehow inadherent to the common mentality of usians to flatly admit "nothing really - i'm just a nigger slave singing for massah, nothing changed in two centuries."
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> A wild Maxwell appears << it's not "i've asked some of the vagrants i know and they agree <insert random idiocy>" all over again, is it ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.PaulCapestany.1:26e03f3f8070a43066e1e713b353905300404f25e96aae5814beef6d548bcd27
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you never said, does trilema selection as updated work for you asciilifeform ?
mircea_popescu: i see "n A Soundstage - Among The Papier Machee, volume 8, and the make-up and blocking... good lord. Mamet's wife has that short cropped "rape & attempted suicide survivor" look sterile women " ;/
mircea_popescu: i am proud to announce that a piddle of ddos being currently measured isn't even remotely sufficient.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform danielpbarron does it work for you on archive.is ?
mircea_popescu: so by this logic they don't believe in "bringing democracy" to various countries, because the people arguing for it are obvious usg shills ?
mircea_popescu: contrary to what the kids [like to {pretend like they're}] think{ing}, coding ability is a relatively unimportant consideration. political ability, in the very simple sense of a mental capacity for ownership, is the larger half.
mircea_popescu: yeah. meanwhile, as far as usable software is concerned, ownership is both an absolute bar to shitgnomery and as near as i can determine the only workable basis.
mircea_popescu: well... so now you see why exactly i say patriotism. who the fuck dies to defend... 8ball motels ?
mircea_popescu: (i am not, as it may appear on the strength of the rarity of such arcane knowledge, proposing that this is some sort of better or ideal solution. it is merely different. lettuce not fall into 1900s orientalism over here.)
mircea_popescu: "it's my fucking street, because i am walking on it, and if you wish to be here, you'll play by my rules, all of them, right now"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform now think about it : would random usian engage hobo on the grounds that "fuck you, be quiet, you're living on MY street" on the simple grounds of ~having been passing by there~ ?
mircea_popescu: people can have french loess without being ethnically french. it's a mental illness, not anything else.
mircea_popescu: a fine example in this vein would be the case of a late night trip, during which a drunk hobo on the street started growling, and a random, accountant-looking bypasser yelled him down.
mircea_popescu: patriotism, in this case, is a willingness to die to defend your territory, as you define it - NOT as some woman defines it.
mircea_popescu: the boi, in this case, is theo de radt, but he's not so dissimilar from any other esl speaker.
mircea_popescu: it similarly works on everything i try, so i dunno. tis sad tho.
mircea_popescu: "the young man's father, a smart fellow who has bought hook line and sinker into the theory that satisfying the desires of women is more important than satisfying the needs of men."
mircea_popescu: the current crop of bois have all the patriotism of a wet noodle.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense... lizzards got petrified, moved in, stole it.
mircea_popescu: the tenuous thread of theo's own person is not enough to keep this shit together, because he's too jwz-ish to engage the more important half - politics.
mircea_popescu: i would say that openbsd pre 2014 and openbsd post 2014 are entirely unrelated entities.
mircea_popescu: in general - if the question you are about to ask could come out of a psychanalist, do yourself the favour and save yourself the wrath.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: aha. ever-more testing the bounds of insanity, too. it's fun to watch.