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cazalla: to make this many kids though one would need to engage in a little rape eh

mircea_popescu: im not judging you in any sense. this is a sociology argument

decimation: but I have no reason to see them raised in a seething cesspool of crime

mircea_popescu: a real cuisinart would make more cake batter.

mircea_popescu: decimation yes. a real man would make more children.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaaactually quite a few

mircea_popescu: and how many black boys are doing a shrem impersonation with "of course plea bargain" etc ?

decimation: so moving to the ghetto and having your children play with needles on the street is what a real man would do?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't a boxing match if one of the fellas in the ring has a pistol. the hordes had usg on their side

mircea_popescu: forget for a moment all the counting of "how many niggers ate white babies" or w/e and riddle me this :

mircea_popescu: sure, every individual can do whatever the fuck they please for whatever random reasons, but when you're trying to discuss migration in statistical terms like he tries to discuss it - it's always a sexual matter.

mircea_popescu: cazalla was like a decade ago.

asciilifeform: (a thesis he stole from 'the death of the american city')

mircea_popescu: the discussion i'm derrinding, with "A's and B's" pretends there is

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thing is, taking a side requires there ~being~ a side.

asciilifeform: i can admit some explanation of 'why burned' but to say that 'had nothing to do with it' is a tall glass to drink

mircea_popescu: violence got nothing to do with it, it's a convenient scapegoat. like 13 yo girls claiming they don't want to associate with boys because they smell, rather than the obvious "my vagina's not yet developed enough"

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: come to usa incognito (parachute?) sometime, i'll take you on a tour of 'what they escaped'

mircea_popescu: "Large areas of X, including entire major cities, have been ethnically cleansed by the departure of class-B people fleeing class-A violence."

trinque: I'm beginning to see that mathemetician-code is a thing.

assbot: 30 results for 'bitshares' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitshares

assbot: O bucatica de istorie, sau 1907 din primavara pina in toamna, de Ion Luca Caragiale on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TECwfC )

asciilifeform: and the question of what differentiates a proper war from an idiot jaquerie

mircea_popescu: must suck to not have a clue.

mircea_popescu: "Ian Smith could never have achieved any political prominence in prewar Britain, because his origins were decidedly middle-class": what, unlike Ramsay MacDonald, who was the bastard son of a farm servant, and twice PM?

assbot: "Why I am not a white nationalist" on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TEBrV7 )

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-am-not-a-white-nationalist/#selection-933.0-933.687 << related, mostly because of the "The world belongs to the active, not to the thoughtful."

asciilifeform: ^ speaking of which, brings back to the point of whether mr mold is a disinfo agent. not that i can say definitively, but imho the best argument that he is not, is the difficulty of formulating a picture of a hypothetical 'moldbug minus the restraint' who does ~not~ advocate inaction

asciilifeform: -- unless you can fabricate a convincing 'blue collar' work history and biography (in which case, work for cia...) you're phucked

asciilifeform: incidentally, here in usaschwitz we have a plague called 'overqualification'

asciilifeform: the difficulty of 'emulate stupid for the rest of your life' is likely the reason for the infamous u.s. police dept. which figured in a lawsuit where some schmuck was rejected from police academ for scoring too high on 'iq test'

mircea_popescu: not a very good guard.

asciilifeform: phun phakt: when i worked in u.s. army, a guard on the campus did just that

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fact is, folks who are placed in the unenviable position of 'emulate stupid' still try to use their mind. just like a prisoner in solitary cell, who theoretically does not really need legs for much of anything, will still wiggle them around

mircea_popescu: for how long would you personally be willing to run a chip on the breadboard ?

decimation: but I would also note that 'come be an inside reformer' is also a usg recruitment trick

decimation: asciilifeform: yes, imagine that you were a 'closet dissenter' working for the fed. the most 'reform' you could get away with would be symbolic at best

mircea_popescu: in other news, a more powerful me today has the intel dept ready to fix it for him! ha-HA! https://archive.is/Tpk6O

mircea_popescu: well it is a romanian newspaper.

asciilifeform: 'palatial scientist' only function on own turf, where he has a direct line to the palatial executioner. like lysenko did

mircea_popescu: a less interested, more naive me kept no records.

mircea_popescu: and this was obviously not acceptable, being how inept as he may be, and a fraud as he may be, nevertheless he is the palatial "scientist"

asciilifeform: the 'cost of intelligence', as mentioned earlier by mircea_popescu, is that the clever fella is not ever content to buy rifle, weld some steel on an old van, shoot out a police station window, and die

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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the question that is of interest perhaps only to me, is whether mr mold has this 'smell' on account of character defect, or because he lives in a plesu-shaped box that he found no way of escaping

decimation: asciilifeform: I kinda arrived at this thesis from a theological perspective earlier, which is also why moldbug appealed

mircea_popescu: that is a point.

decimation: asciilifeform: yes, what you describe is roughly what attracted me to #b-a

asciilifeform: moldbug, i will point out, speaks not one language save his native engl. that he was able to reconstruct even a semblance of coherent picture of anything while sitting in the anglo junkyard, is remarkable by itself

mircea_popescu: i think tacitus lived in a marble tub his entire life, in a museum in illyricum.

asciilifeform: i for one, when first encountered mircea_popescu's articles, scarfed'em up on account of a feeling of 'like mr mold but without the latter's impotent thrashing and cultural illiteracy'

mircea_popescu: so i write an article with a cultural grounding introduction referencing newman and proceed to the historical discussion, some guy writes (a decade prior) an article using tacitus in thesame function and casually mentioning garfield todd

mircea_popescu: like "In fact, what Power really means is that a government "cannot survive indefinitely" if it defies the wishes of the international community. Ie, of, well - Power. Here we have the ultimate cause of Rhodesia's destruction. I believe this is a clear and undisputed fact."

asciilifeform: granted he only shows a kind of silhouette of the monster (all he personally is able to see with own eyes)

asciilifeform: mr mold could be described as a founder of a very depressive sort of 'dismal science' - where a great many folks with no cultural literacy to speak of, no remotely-plausible avenue for constructive action, were led to realize approximately how their civilization anally raped itself

mircea_popescu: intelligence also comes at a cost.

asciilifeform: almost like he was laying groundwork to turn into a top contender for 'was planning to kill hitler' after the fact

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand, nothing in nature comes without a cost. flying bugs are not by this fact more fit than worms. even if flying is kinda cool.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a few months ago, i reread a selection of mr mold, and it struck me as loudly, profanely stinking of 'resistance through culture'

mircea_popescu: <trinque> asciilifeform: is that where I protest the patriarchy by wearing a skirt? << it's a very specific locus to east european "anticomunism" of the contemptible kind.

mircea_popescu: this guy's got a pretty fantastic racket. i hope i won't next hear i've heard about bitcoin from curtis yarvin.

mircea_popescu: holy shit man. a quote from wikipedia and the next mention of the word in comments ?!

assbot: 4 results for 'killdozer' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=killdozer

assbot: Nobody could have foreseen their using a plane like a rocket on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TEvZl2 )

asciilifeform: end result, best case, probably would resemble http://trilema.com/nobody-could-have-foreseen-their-using-a-plane-like-a-rocket

decimation: asciilifeform: of course that man would probably meet a similar end

asciilifeform: the non-retarded version of this, where a fella spends 20 years in his garage building the 'strela', afaik has not yet happened.

assbot: Logged on 13-04-2014 22:27:18; asciilifeform: the 'a) wanna buy strela? b) fuck off c) really, dontcha? b) ok sure c) off to jail' thing has been going so long that it doesn't even make national news every time now.

decimation: asciilifeform: yes, if 'having a brain' means seeing about two moves ahead - would put a damper on 'action'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu might say that it is because mr mold has no balls. i would say that i cannot comment on whether he has balls, but will point out that having a brain is a handicap if contemplating active resistance to usg, without support of foreign army, from inside its walls

trinque: asciilifeform: is that where I protest the patriarchy by wearing a skirt?

decimation: asciilifeform: yeah that's my point, even if he has decided black people suck, it's quite a leap to think that randomly murdering them is going to help anyone's lot

assbot: A very unfair perspective. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TEvasv )

mircea_popescu: decimation http://trilema.com/2013/a-very-unfair-perspective/ count ?

asciilifeform: for instance, it is widely (afaik) known that the highest-scoring 'postal' in usa used a bottle of ordinary petrol as the weapon

cazalla: you can always find a national anthem of rhodesia thread on /pol/ too, lyrics and all lol

cazalla: having read his little manifesto, the kid is without a doubt a /pol/ack (muh rhodesia, jews etc etc)

asciilifeform: (turned out, the sign means 'neighborhood watch!' and depicts a crossed-out 'spy vs spy' figure)

asciilifeform: when i moved here, as a boy, i was constantly puzzled as to why whole wash.,d.c. region is covered in signs depicting... a ship going uphill! >> http://www.lehi-ut.gov/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/snap.a1.gif

mircea_popescu: who the fuck would want a sister on his head.

mircea_popescu: how about they were all bitcoin experts from "the community" of derps that never saw a bitcoin ?

asciilifeform: there was a reddit 'ama' thread linked here last year, where sisterfuckers chimed in by the battalions

asciilifeform: mainly speaking from an ancient pet peeve of mine, where folks who slept through noether and even carnot often map '2nd law of thermo' to a childhood-received 'who does not work, does not eat' and think of it as a 1:1 map

mircea_popescu: tation to dig into the Earth to grow food or to gaze at a limitless land and call it your own, no, no. You just go on and on and on repeating this process over the centuries over and over and suddenly you make a grand discovery. You have a mercantile heritage! You are a merchant. You are known as a usurer, a man with secret resources, a witch, a pawnbroker, a sheenie, a makie and a kike!

mircea_popescu: ut and buy another piece of cloth, cut it into three pieces and sell it for three pennies profit. But, my friend, during that time you must never succumb to buying an extra piece of bread for the table or a toy for a child, no. You must immediately run out and get yourself a still larger piece cloth and so you repeat this process over and over and suddenly you discover something. You have no longer any desire, any temp

mircea_popescu: gh to have a geography or an army or a land myth. All you have is a little brain. A little brain and a great bearded legend to sustain you and convince you that you are special, even in poverty. But this little brain, that's the real key you see. With this little brain you go out and you buy a piece of cloth and you cut that cloth in two and you go and sell it for a penny more than you paid for it. Then you run right o

mircea_popescu: Sol Nazerman: You people? Oh, let's see. Yeah. I see. I see, you... you want to learn the secret of our success, is that right? Alright I'll teach you. First of all you start off with a period of several thousand years, during which you have nothing to sustain you but a great bearded legend. Oh my friend you have no land to call your own, to grow food on or to hunt. You have nothing. You're never in one place long enou ☟︎

asciilifeform: author would probably answer 'jew lands and will die of problems before he gets so much as a gram rather than pound of flesh'

mircea_popescu: it would take me about a month of "earth time" to own one of their townlets, i reckon.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what i meant was, extract a lesson from the story, or extract the juice from the folks portrayed therein

mircea_popescu: anyway, i will say for the record that a) the "economic" model contemplated by the naive socialist pseudo-anarchists cooking up the story is broken and b) anyone aged 16 who can't figure out how to extract value out of it should go hang.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-06-2015#1169903 << deadly boring on account of none of the material being in any way new (to anyone with even a faint interest in the subject) whatsoever. ☝︎

assbot: Why "representative democracy" doesn't work and doesn't make sense on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GdnKDj )

mircea_popescu: i've yet to see a cat in desperate need of overthrowing the imposition of catdom upon it, however.

mircea_popescu: it's already a given he's taken at most a local maximum

asciilifeform: without a visible dent

mircea_popescu: but note that at no point would him getting killed be part of a best plan, so

mircea_popescu: the notion that human agency is ever "effectual" is such rank nonsense to begion with, that a pretense of "saving action for optimal effect" can only be regarded in psychogenic terms ☟︎

asciilifeform: what of it is that folks who are really in a hurry to commit suicide with an optional small side dish desert of small-scale homicide are not partizans.

mircea_popescu: tho thieves often think in terms of "o look, a slow scam is being set up!!1"