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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that'd easily fit half a dozen of, e.g., these, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2015#1162727 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: I'm trying to think out a way to chump this down to $20 per box
BingoBoingo: AH, in this region there is not such a deal I can drive to. A bring the box colo costs $70 USD for 1 rack unit
assbot: 6 results for 'backyard steel' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=backyard+steel
asciilifeform: methinks we're speaking of a 'chinese backyard steel mill' situation here.
BingoBoingo: to host three machines in different locals for the price of one machine in a big city datacenter
asciilifeform: what, again, would you pay actual money to host in such a place ?
BingoBoingo: Oh I never said house. I said shed. Shed goes on shitland, in town's once industrial district. Preferably a "superfund" site.
asciilifeform: i will have no part in it. and i can't picture any sane person wanting a part in it.
asciilifeform: but still largely empty, because in bezzleworld 'cheap' is a relative thing.
BingoBoingo: Prime candidate for such an operation is carbondale, Illinois. Lived there once. Oasis of connectivity in a desert. Major chicago-New Orleans pipe. Indianapolis pipe. St Louis pipe. Shithole Kentucky pipes. Many hippies who want to "buy local"
asciilifeform: incidentally, just about every american town of any size has a version of this: the hollowed-out fortified walls of the old strowger-switch telco exchanges
BingoBoingo: A number of these fucktowns even have major connection endpoints in the form of bezzelversities
BingoBoingo: Mapsploring I am finding a disturbing number of duelingbajos-fucktowns which by all right ought to have datacenters advertising colospace based on cable locations and intersections.
BingoBoingo: More turkeys is a very hard problem. More chickens is much easier.
asciilifeform: usa is a shit-internet country. this won't change because there is no good reason for it to change
asciilifeform: brings back to a fundamental point from one of mircea_popescu's articles - shuffling things around is not going to increase 'number of turkeys available'
asciilifeform: this is not to be found in a residential unit, and certainly not in usa
asciilifeform: i have a few boxes like this myself
asciilifeform: rent a cage at data center
BingoBoingo: Actually this idea was born from I have phree machine, want to appliance it up with Bitcoind, but making it a super public seeder on the home connection would be the suck.
asciilifeform: what, other than bitcoind, would you even consider putting on such a thing
asciilifeform: as it is, there is a lower bound for what is worth bothering with at all.
asciilifeform: if the past 40 years of computer retardation hadn't happened, and we used a stack with support for seamless process migration, 'voting circuit' computation, etc. it would be practical to use '1024 chickens' arrays of arbitrarily garbage hardware
BingoBoingo: I think Comcast and a few cableco's do this for wifi
asciilifeform: btw, my local telco quasimonopoly - 'verizon' - had a hilarious tamer version of this for some years, where you pay a few hundy for a box that opens a vpn to their end and gives you cell signal in your house, via your own net pipe. and they had the audacity to still charge for the 'minutes' and per MB of data.
BingoBoingo: Seriously, this has all the promise of a great chumpatron except every now and then a customer does something worthwhile
asciilifeform: or your kitchen, as a place for bums to cook roadkill in
asciilifeform: this has all the appeal of renting out the toilet in your house as a public latrine
asciilifeform: (if i wanted a box in some schmuck's house, i'd put it right here in mine)
asciilifeform: whole point would be the physical security of a few metres of cement
asciilifeform: but in such a way that the box lives out its remaining life, rather than being lifted by the first idiot copper scavenger who comes along.
asciilifeform: you will need to seal to keep out moisture, but if repair is not a concern (machine is disposable, replacement gets new burial plot) this is relatively simple matter
asciilifeform: (a surprising number had corpse-gas exhaust pipes!)
BingoBoingo: I am starting to think "Olde Laptop Colo" might make a nice franchised business
asciilifeform: but in no case a corpse
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 01:59:36; ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000043.html << i have a hunch we're going to see approximately the same ratio in irc
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1171397 << mno. if it's in the channel, it is a live pre-gavin node (OR crafted impostor...) ☝︎
trinque: probably depends on whether you have a relationship with someone making the hardware
ben_vulpes: moreover i'm not convinced it wasn't a stooge who broadcast the RBF txn to make the tweet in the first place
asciilifeform: btw, one of the (not so) secrets is that mining does not select for 'the brightest bulbs at home depot [u.s. household goods shop]' - nor for political acumen, nor for really much else other than the peculiar countereconomic wormholes which make it sound like a reasonable proposition
asciilifeform: shitgang is trying to push a 'for miners' version of turdcoin ?
ben_vulpes: convention for a long time was that "the earliest broadcast transaction wins" as some sort of half-assed soft-connsensus-aka-fecal-matter prophylactic against double spends
ben_vulpes: it is in no way to the best of my knowledge a change in anything of import
ben_vulpes: broadcast a transaction with a higher fee, miners will include it preferentially to a previous transaction with the same inputs ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Indeed, under many pretexts including a lab with explicit Air Force connection
asciilifeform: (very confusingly, there was also a 'franz lisp')
asciilifeform: closed-source toolchains can go die in a fire
ben_vulpes: but who's going to implement a clim irc client on allegro
ben_vulpes: or if anyone gave a shit and implemented it on allegro it might work
fartacus: ben_vulpes: this beirc seems like another one of those "hey cool, made something that works in clim. I think I'll go get a job now" projects
assbot: 4 results for 'drepper' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=drepper
asciilifeform: a #pragma in glibc ?
asciilifeform: as in, is this a hardcoded idiocy in gcc proper ? its linker ? where ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2015#1170972 << btw, anybody got a handy link to what precisely generates the message seen here ? ☝︎
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Looks like the original 160 GB hard drive. I'll probably end up applicancing it into a node
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i see in the logs where you had a node fail to snarf seed from the old irc
cazalla: come with a hdd? burn it with fire BingoBoingo lol
BingoBoingo: Well, he's moving into his girlfriend's place and long ago she bought him a bunch of Apple shit to replace it so indeed too big to move laptop
mircea_popescu: a too big to move laptop.
gribble: Error: "late" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: android thing was just a decoy.
mircea_popescu: definitely got it. and im sure some idiot "woman in tech" a la carly fiorina is going to bring a shittier apple itunes store on it
trinque: can be amusing to think of chrome as a google rootkit
ben_vulpes: i dunno man i just like reading a bunch of different approaches
ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000043.html << i have a hunch we're going to see approximately the same ratio in irc ☟︎
cazalla: creating a bitbet.. micon cops a plea deal.. does anyone think prior to 2016 is a fair time scale?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, but how many skinny girls have D+ cups? (natural not implants with a gap larger than my front fucking teeth)
mod6: the skirts could have a quick "clasp" or some sort of attachment mechinism to keep hands free while cart-wheeling.
mircea_popescu: nuts tho. i hadn't realised cartwheels'd necessarily be a big part.
mircea_popescu: to protect fingers while doing it with a raquet
mod6: girls would have to do cart-wheels to get to a ball on the otherside of the court as opposed to running.
mircea_popescu: mod6 and the thing is, that arrangement'd pretty much kill anyone but a young woman.
mircea_popescu: cazalla the problem with her is that no tits. if she had d+ knockers the ribcage'd be a +
mod6: re: slutennis "Wouldn't you watch a sport like that ?" << f yes.
cazalla: if i can see ribs when she reaches for the sky, she needs a good meal before we bang
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Palintology&page=2 | It is believed they held a peculiarly close relationship with the species vulpes ... A mindset which doesn't allow someone to stop saying the same things over and ...
ben_vulpes: who /is/ running a public node?
ahmed_: just a fellow bitcoin user
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes he also made a car.
ben_vulpes: unless you're making a sophisticated joke about horsepower and snipping arbitrary cables...
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes incidentally is http://cascadianhacker.com/headers/headlights.jpg a muntz rocket ?
ben_vulpes: the most elaborate programming exercise - write something world-changing in a style nobody would ever attribute to you
ben_vulpes: does argue for a rather sophisticated greybeard
mircea_popescu: it doth not have the great degree of generality that a good exercise makes.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes btw, as a matter of course articles like that should contain a "this is how you get your system to reproduce my screenshots" thing, with emacs settings etc.
mircea_popescu: Bitcoind as written would be the best possible example of condescending software design if it were worthy of being called "designed" instead of "crufted together by a monotonically increasingly febrile group of contributors". << i can sign that.
mircea_popescu: "Even though the application's default behavior is to create the ~/.bitcoind directory itself unprompted (and yet not the bitcoin.conf file that the damn thing expects in there), if you pass it a data directory that doesn't exist, it refuses to create it."
ben_vulpes: this was a deliberately orchestrated event!
SuchWow: Anyhow, it's been a pleasure speaking with you all, and should I ever quit my job and start daytrading BTC/USD fulltime again, I will return. I will give back the last 2 minutes I have of being 'upped' to the floor. :)
SuchWow: i'm currently bullish, after a LONG time of being bearish
ben_vulpes: by the time the usg realizes that there's a btc-shaped train headed its way it will be too late for it to do anything.
assbot: 14 results for 'cusipzzz' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cusipzzz
mircea_popescu: there's actually a LOT
SuchWow: got a real jobj 9 months ago
SuchWow: just a newb tryna learn :)
SuchWow: i really never was a super active participant
mircea_popescu: no wait nm, need a rating for that.
ben_vulpes: oh but we have a new rss bot that's new
assbot: 0 results for 'sevenx' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=sevenx