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assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 23:32:50; ag3nt_zer0: trinque: shotgun definition: orientation toward a suprahuman or transcendental "dimension"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1173058 << this is idealism. and a very idealistic definition to boot, wtf is "orientation towards". like, when i take a piss i'm orientated towards the urinal ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this is a complex point not accessible to the novice, and so nothing to be taken cavallierly.
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 23:24:56; ag3nt_zer0: trinque: well I had no idea what structuralism was but read something by mircer_popescu and at the end he said "welcome to the post-post- structuralist world that the internet has enabled" or something to that effect... that got me looking at structuralisma dn post structuralism and I was just confused because what I read was that structuralism was a reaction against humanism -and- tradition,, but as far
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1173048 << do not define, or even think about, things in terms of other things. it is a horrible habit and a path to idiocy. ☝︎
mod6: oh, and I keep hitting an additional problem aside from what the "gentoo sanitiy" resolves. i've been holding off submitting a patch for it until I can get this thing actually compiled and working.
mod6: then we can finally go off of a version that we support, etc.
mod6: before we cut a new milestone, i'd like to have this sucker up and running on gentoo with uclibc & patched with the "gentoo sanity" patches as well.
asciilifeform: idk, what hogs do is in some circumstances a consideration at meat plant
mod6: well, there isn't a previous version 5.4 -- stops after 5.3 and goes right to 6... so i guess that could work.
mircea_popescu: what idiots did can not now, nor ever be a consideration.
asciilifeform: was there a turdalicious 5.4 ?
mod6: If we add in (officially the following): { Orphanage Thermonuke, TX Orphanage Amputation, { All DNS Thermonyukyooar Patches } }, I'd say that'd be a new milestone. And I'd propose to call it 0.5.3.2
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: yeah i am looking for alternatives that's why I asked about btc and ed... is this question a simple "where does the trust lie?"... btw you know those cuddle-puddle poddies they have all the students arranged in now? You know, the ingenious design that promotes cheating and distraction and love? Those are fucking MANDATORY in some districts... teachers couldn't sit them all facing forward if they wanted
asciilifeform: mod6: not looking for earth-shaking ideas, but release was 0.5.3.1, and the thing about to be fielded is clearly something quite else, imho needs a new name, at least new ver. 2) ~somebody~'s gotta have a seed
mod6: The patch we got from that mailing list was from a different version for sure than 4.8.4 -- so i've had to hack it in by hand. gentoo is now applying the patch properly. and it's compiling as we speak. there is one caviat that I need to get over before I can test it though.
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/xDGYGZV.jpg << for all the people using cloud as a buzzword
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: 2 items for consideration: 1) what version string is to be used in the first public therealbitcoin nodes? the current one doesn't seem appropriate 2) anyone have existing nodes (of whatever variety) to 'get a light' from? i'd prefer these to 'wild' mysterymeat
mod6: it's a shit blizzard, Randy.
mats: for the record i am not a reverse engineer, my interests are narrowly tailored to exploitation
ben_vulpes: i let my thermonuked node run all night, picked up not a single seed
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 19:07:07; ascii_field: i will remind readers that 'irc on butcher block' means a 100% reliance on seeds we enter in config. and also on specifying node's external ipv4.
trinque: the best crises are, I'm sure, a nice blend of irl and metaphysical destruction
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: having read the foreward, looks interesting; I'll probably have it read in a few days
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> so maybe the "doesn't work" vs "worked 3 days ago" is simply that you ran yours for a day and ben_vulpes ran his for fifteen minutes. << it just strikes me as unlikely that a node is going to connect to precisely the room i'm in and then bless me with a usable IP addr
trinque: I'm just a derpy guy with very little formal education.
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: are you a mathematical person?
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: more pointedly, I tend to assume that where someone makes broad generalizations about "being", they've actually given me a command
trinque: I tend to be wary of systems that try to provide a taxonomy of human action
ag3nt_zer0: well I suppose one way to english the difference is that a traditional orientation would be vertical (upward, toward the absolute, what not), vs horizontal (man is measure of all things and human contentment and "happiness" main goals)
ag3nt_zer0: Plato was a traditional philosopher
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: shotgun definition: orientation toward a suprahuman or transcendental "dimension" ☟︎
ag3nt_zer0: anyway it's just nice to be in a room that has some good heads in it...
ag3nt_zer0: I guess I am just trying to grasy what mp was excited about... it did seem like he saw a lot of light in the development, philosophically speaking
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: well I had no idea what structuralism was but read something by mircer_popescu and at the end he said "welcome to the post-post- structuralist world that the internet has enabled" or something to that effect... that got me looking at structuralisma dn post structuralism and I was just confused because what I read was that structuralism was a reaction against humanism -and- tradition,, but as far as i understand, ☟︎
ag3nt_zer0: anyone else see this?: http://news.google.com/news/url?sr=1&ct2=us%2F1_0_s_0_1_a&sa=t&usg=AFQjCNGXNGPBMfwnUjDkQ50881YdL1b3IQ&cid=52778884659320&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techworm.net%2F2015%2F06%2Fgoogle-chrome-secretly-downloads-an-audio-listener-to-your-pc-that-can-snoop-on-you.html&ei=bo-IVainNMHsmALdxKO4Dw&rt=SECTION&vm=STANDARD&bvm=section&did=-2365193554698942914&sid=-2195956548148024079&ssid=cstm&at=dt0
trinque: there's a cult that got places
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ag3nt_zer0: yes, the system is fucked, but I wonder about the feasibility of something created entirely outside of it... maybe on a barge...
williamdunne: Sorry, misread as "education" as a wider group rather than educated
williamdunne: Eh, seems like it is a good thing even if just at a primary level
assbot: 451 results for 'education' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=education
ag3nt_zer0: I am coming from the viewpoint of a non-castrated teacher that believes in the transmissibility of the flame - but sees the flame has been hijacked and perverted by the marxist fag multicultis
assbot: 74 results for 'beatings' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=beatings
jurov: since you have no ratings yet, can just get a new key and register new acct
ag3nt_zer0: haha a talmudic scholar
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mats: ill take a dog over a robot any day
mircea_popescu: (seeing how a transaction lives as such a finite interval before being included in a block, the % of txn that live as "known to one" vs the total "known to all" is of particular interest)
mircea_popescu: (for the amaterus : txn propagation has a lot in common with epidemiology, a topic recently trouched upon here. in any case : the spots where a transaction goes from "unknown" to "broadcast through one node" to "broadcast to the whole net" are interesting in the general case. and the first move thereof a very good measure of "quality", basically speaking the inverse of an infection's pathogenicity)
mircea_popescu: btw, check out how nicely the cult's gangster outlook is rounding out! we now have a guy nicknamed babyface even.
cazalla: well better to encourage the sluts around you to get naked than to tell them you think a boring housewife is a better proposition than them
williamdunne: Only a handful were particularly irritated, and they weren't worth keeping contact with anyhow
mircea_popescu: were you basically meaning to say "my idea of ideal marriage is where im just rich enough to not give a fuck" but misstated it as "woman should not work out of the house" and ended up irritating random people ?
mircea_popescu: "Because I am not religious, I have no mystical conception of an afterlife. To me, a person lives on not in Heaven or Hell but instead in the minds and hearts of those they touched while alive"
trinque: so it's a garden, or whatever, still she needs to see that her life has some kind of point
trinque: williamdunne: I have had chicks that don't have a career, and seen the detriment idleness can be
williamdunne: Do you have to worship a paid for companion?
williamdunne: Why should she work? Are there not alternatives to a job
trinque: everyone needs something productive to do; what's she going to do, stare at a picture of you all day while you're off living?
mircea_popescu: are you looking for a woman to worship you, that you really don't give a shit about ; or for a woman to worship yourself, that doesn't really give a shit about you.
cazalla: williamdunne, biggest mistake i made at your age was believing i needed to get into a relationship with women to maintain regular sex
mircea_popescu: either because he wants to buy a whore rather than rent ; or because he wants a mistress but is affraid of her bulls.
cazalla: why do you prefer the traditional model of a wife if no desire for kids?
cazalla: williamdunne, well because she's a good mum (the hate my job part is really just having less time for oneself)
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 21:06:53; williamdunne: On a side note something I found to be interesting; whenever it came up that I preferred the traditional model of a wife being submissive to her husband who goes to work while she performs domestic duties, it was made out that I am a neo-nazi by people my own age
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1172784 <<< overrated and the wife does the bare minimum just like anyone else stuck in a job they hate ☝︎
mircea_popescu: williamdunne what you'll be more interested will be to hear that a) romanian uses a unified concept for gain, which covers "gain from playing the one man bandit", "gain for gainful employment", "gain from having said a funny joke", "gaining time" etc, but the actual word, cistiga, is a direct usage of the latin castigat.
ascii_field: but it is not a complete story
mircea_popescu: "one can only imagine what having to lie to your compiler _every_ day and to make unwarranted guesses that your colleagues will depend on the same way they depend on your hard-earned knowledge _does_ to a human brain -- I know I couldn't handle even the prospect of it." << ya ya. welcome to real life (tm). this is what it is. exactly. there shall never be an escape from it, it is the indelible mark of superiority,
trinque: felipelalli: one doesn't tend to be an X programmer past a certain proficiency
felipelalli: ascii_field: are you a scheme programmer too? If yes, which dialect?
mircea_popescu: which makes it very much an idealism masquerading as an objectivism which then drives a particular sort of people up the wall.
mircea_popescu: "why should i know who some guy's name is to be able to tell a joke ?" "you only need to know the name if you plan to reuse it"
mircea_popescu: the former is often trampled on by scoping questions by the [lamer] members of the audience. the second uses misdirection (the name's a throwaway) to perhaps enhance the results.,
mircea_popescu: now, you've probably heard enough jokes in your time to know there are two basic styles. one style is "some guy walks into a bar" and the other style is "this bloke joe walks into the bar".
mircea_popescu: ascii_field even cpp. let's model this on the act of telling a joke.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne why would you prefer a wife that didn't work, and if you do, how do you know you're not actually looking for a mistress ?
williamdunne: I never even said anything particularly controversial in my opinion; only that I would prefer a wife who didn't work over one that did
ascii_field: 'requires me to name shit that doesn't deserve a name and wtf'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i had almost 100% same convo with a maths type who hated programming
williamdunne: On a side note something I found to be interesting; whenever it came up that I preferred the traditional model of a wife being submissive to her husband who goes to work while she performs domestic duties, it was made out that I am a neo-nazi by people my own age ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you know there's actually a strong possibility this assertion is correct. from my experience discussing programming with girls that don't program, it often comes to some derivative of exactly this.
mircea_popescu: "C++ is philosophically and cognitively unsound as it forces a violation of all known epistemological processes on the programmer. as a language, it requires you to specify in great detail what you do not know in order to obtain the experience necessary to learn it. "
mike_c: kakobrekla: lol :D that's a good one
mircea_popescu: julius an' vincent have a number of intelligent, culturally relevant discussions. whych is why qt is such an intellectual titan.
mircea_popescu: it's a good movie.
assbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lx1l7v )
williamdunne: Seems like it would justify more than a -1
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assbot: Logged on 20-05-2015 10:08:38; mircea_popescu: i prefer to not communicate lol. do your job, report the methodology and results once you're done. you got a blog ?
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mircea_popescu: groups benefit from a certain knowledge that a mechanism for disproportionate reaction exists (as discussed in that old arta pedepsirii article). this arrangement simply makes it exist without anyone actuall being personally involved, which is just what you'd expect these days.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1172181 << i suspect it works as a "strengthening weakness". which is to say, because it's so easily to be annoying, encourages people to not be annoying. sort of canary in the mine if you will. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: osanali^ is the plural, and it'd need a thing on the i. otherwise osana, singular.
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assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 15:55:36; mats: to be more generous, probably a buncha poor people following TAT around
mircea_popescu: a nm is in the log