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ben_vulpes: but i'm a reluctant frontend guy to begin with.

trinque: dunno whether you also get a lower level graphics api

trinque: haven't found anything that looked like a good decision

trinque: I've looked around for a common lisp on llvm, as that's what farts into webasm

funkenstein_: well if TX channels do break, it is eventually the resonsibility of the spender to get the TX to a pool - using external channel

ben_vulpes: can that be a common lisp runtime?

trinque: hopefully this webassembly thing takes some pain out, but I'm sure it'll be a while on that

ben_vulpes: (to deliver a pair of socks that nobody asked for)

ben_vulpes: and i say that as a guy who duct tapes jet fighters to submarines

ben_vulpes: it just takes the "duct tape the jet fighter to the submarine" mindset to a revolting degree

trinque: so I'm not about to start preferring a particular flavor of shit

trinque: and in this case there's a browser underneath

ben_vulpes: i'm starting to wonder of 'clojure all the things' isn't a poettering-smell

ben_vulpes: <mats> like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry << normal american stock ponzi in action

funkenstein_: BingoBoingo, something about that rabbit makes me think it is about to dunk on a regulation basket

BingoBoingo: <mats> would sure like to meet these folks at a poker table << Honestly I'd just like to meet them at a bar or the pony track jsut to cycle the games they bleed through, because these colors don't run http://qntra.net/qntra.jpg

mats: would sure like to meet these folks at a poker table

mats: like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry ☟︎

BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> embrace the surveillance state << I may or may not have around 2009 driven a VIP across county and or state lines because they did not want their travel recorded.

ben_vulpes: i'm going to buy a bunch of goddamn trucks.

BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> it's a hazard of the dude's occupation. << No, it is a Hazzard, for a certain sort of Duke

HeySteve: driver will get bad rep after first abduction, so doubt he'll make it to a dozen unless he changes nick and car

mats: and nobody will care after a dozen women disappear after their last known position was inside one of your cars

HeySteve: ok but the big picture here is it'll give all the regulatory types a fit

ben_vulpes: it's a hazard of the dude's occupation.

HeySteve: eh, sounds like a lot of unecessary paperwork to me

ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i dream of a world where the insurance to drive your own ass around is prohibitive for all but the ultra-rich ☟︎

ben_vulpes: i want to be able to put 5 million down on a fleet of robot cars and wreck an industry or 5

HeySteve: so app that handles escrow of fare, oracle uses GPS to verify destination was reached within a certain time, that's it... right?

HeySteve: but this is a case where it makes sense

HeySteve: Christine Walters, Johburg’s mayoral committee member for transport: "The city would like a South African flavour of black economic empowerment with Uber." - this sort of brain damage has taken over pretty much everything here

HeySteve: SA can be added to the list, lots of protests against Uber here. was wondering if there's a way to decentralise it...

ben_vulpes: alf sez he has a boojum in the blockchain

mats: that's a confusing construction

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: heck of a find, brownie!

decimation: yeah, I agree, would be nice. Apparently the former owners let a weedy russian olive tree grow too

cazalla: decimation, walnut would be a bonus.. i want to get a few pine nut trees but can be up to 10 years before you get anything from it

cazalla: a bit* even

cazalla: i've been buying em online, was a suss about that but all of em have turned up fine so far

decimation: as Jesus says, you will know a tree by its fruit

decimation: I'm not sure if I have a walnut or mountain ash, for instance

decimation: cazalla: I recently bought a new house, and I'm trying to figure out what trees I have

cazalla: tfw buying a deciduous tree in the winter and feel like i bought a stick for $20 lol (Hovenia dulcis if anyone cares as much) ☟︎

trinque: might be a fun common lisp weekend project to redo it in that

trinque goes to beat deedbot with a wrench

asciilifeform: ff your cock and balls. That day you'll become a man. vii

asciilifeform: - It's a symbol, in the shitvi, explained his father, the King. You have to experience real loss to understand the importance of respecting the subterranean world and its rules. It's not easy to do. That's why when someone does it, he's considered truly an adult and counted with people. Until then his notions don't matter. I know what I say may seem absurd to you, but then again one day you'll be prepared, and willing to cut o

assbot: Romanian bloggers, part 2 on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IM4Kwt )

decimation: asciilifeform: let this be a wake up call, if you don't have your parachute ready...

assbot: 40 results for 'dulap' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dulap

trinque: sci fi story idea: they claim to have invented the immortality treatment, is actually a procedure for implanting your mind control chip

decimation: "Mark Peterson, a spokesman for Wave Broadband, said an unspecified number of Sacramento-area customers were knocked offline by the latest attack. He characterized the Tuesday attack as "coordinated" and said the company was working with Level 3 and Zayo to restore service."

asciilifeform: a few hacks of axe's worth of fuck

asciilifeform: evidently ~somebody~ gave a fuck

decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, because nobody gives a fuck

asciilifeform: today they are in plastic pipes, and - unless belonging to cia/nsa in particular - marked with a bright orange public stake

asciilifeform: there once was a time when usg cables were armoured in concrete tubes

asciilifeform: and they didn't even need a fusion-powered death ray, it seems

trinque: I will be so sad if a fusion breakthrough happens in the USA for that reason...

decimation: and http://www.helionenergy.com/ < "By combining our years of experience in fusion, newly available electronics technologies, and a revolutionary design using cutting-edge physics, Helion is making a fusion engine 1,000 times smaller, over 500 times cheaper, and realizable 10 time faster than other projects." ☟︎

decimation: lolz http://blog.samaltman.com/energy < sam altman has a great new startup idea (YC certified): nuclear fusion ☟︎

asciilifeform: thought they were signing up for a quiet life of sending viagra spam

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: so which obscure german academic is going to have 'known about this for a year' ? same fella as they trotted out for phuctor ?

phf: fwiw dumpblock is expensive, because walks blockchain in order. a "dumpdb" that iterates over mapBlockIndex and does ReadFromDisk/<< for each block might be a reasonably fast way to split .db into separate block files

asciilifeform: there is a python thing floating around, iirc

asciilifeform: but it's a bit slow

decimation: the question is, how do we make a portable tool to suck blocks from bitcoin nodes?

asciilifeform: ~recent~ syncs diverging is almost certainly a product of enemy fire

asciilifeform: (but is not expected for a while)

mod6: on a fully sync'd node?

decimation: no, but you could antimate a node, peer with it, force it to shit out

decimation: I'm afraid it's gonna take going over with a fine-tooth comb

asciilifeform: ^ not a single one of these lines up with mircea_popescu's

asciilifeform: same reason anybody uses a db for anything..

asciilifeform: blk0002 - a certain number, certainly smaller, after that

decimation: pity, that's a big too large for a cutout dropbox account

asciilifeform: will, once i find a place to drop these where i'm not paying per byte

phf: right, eatblock/dumpblock lets you construct any arbitrary correct chain, block by block, including the known blockchain, in a fully deterministic way. seem like important building blocks of proper engineering.

asciilifeform is trying and failing to think of a benign explanation for the anomaly

asciilifeform: (recall, in a 'bastard-free' bitcoind - which is what i have - no block can be 'eaten' unless it squarely agrees with its immediate antecedent block)

phf: is it possibly non-determenism from a dozen or so places where size_t is read into int?

asciilifeform: thing was running on a portable, in a knapsack, in a car...

asciilifeform: the best-case scenario is that this is a 'cosmic ray'

asciilifeform: some time near after 208000, a block is rejected!

trinque: "That makes Bitcoin about 5,033 times more energy intensive, per transaction, than VISA" << what a crock of shit

cazalla: that pic isn't really a fair representation of the problematic hambeasts

assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 19:33:05; mircea_popescu: in even further news, overheard in the street like an hour ago : "mommy, mommy! is it a good sign when your fanny itches ?"

cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181952 <<< perhaps a rash on her pussy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLnPKUPE4yo ☝︎

BingoBoingo hoping I don't have to make a bunch of patches to the RPC for this to work

shinohai: I have a dedi server for foundation use if we do get electrum running

BingoBoingo: shinohai: Was recently gifted second laptop. Single core AMD 64bit atom-like processor. Testing stator 0.5.4 build, once sync'd will likely dick around with electrum server against a foundation build with aim of eventually setting up a dedi-box

shinohai: @ BingoBoingo I have been able to run it against termcoin, which I don't recommend as a real wallet.

BingoBoingo: shinohai: Ah. If you try again let me know what they errors were like. Still prolly have a month or so before craptop finishes sync

shinohai: Heaven't tried in a while though. I was drunk.

trinque: where you're looking through a tiny window at some scrollable thing

trinque: UI's a little dumb

shinohai is a spelling Nazi

assbot: 189 results for 'electrum' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=electrum

shinohai: There is a slight spelling error in this document: http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt ☟︎

cazalla: don't you ever touch a white man's modem