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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i seem to recall he failed both tests for continued lordship and was basically not on the list of names to be cleared because he asked not to be.
mircea_popescu: =2i+1. suppose you verify that nodes Nm do not advertise Y. is this proof sufficient to you that nodes N1... Nn is a charade, and they are all node N ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose there's nodes N1... Nn advertising themselves on the network. suppose you send txn X to all nodes Nk where k is divisible by 2, which has the properties that a) it would not be broadcast to any further nodes, and b) it would prevent transaction Y from being accepted in the mempool. suppose you verify that nodes Nk where k = 2i do not in fact advertise X. suppose you broadcast Y to nodes Nm where m
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: you just don't know enough about this sort of thing to find this out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is there anything more than random derp of tenuous association with b-a has a total meltdown when he realises that b-a is not fiat, the republic not a democracy and i don't give a shit about "people themselves" ?
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1425011 << they should have been. except if the "non overlapping" sets of miners DO in fact overlap, in the sense of being merely meaningless facades of the same one thing, in which case they wouldn't necessarily know that they can be trivially fingerprinted by the symptom of "hey, apparently they know about a txn they shouldn't know about".
☝︎ mircea_popescu: looking for the low down on argentina ? read it in qntra today, or in the argentinian mass media a week later.
mircea_popescu: "El fiscal Alberto Nisman volvió a ocupar el centro de la escena. La investigación sobre su muerte está tomando una orientación, cuyo desenlace se puede prever: Nisman fue víctima de un asesinato en el que participó el gobierno de Cristina Kirchner, en combinación con agentes iraníes."
mircea_popescu: by this measure, there's a large overlap between all sorts of things. maybe there is, sure.
mircea_popescu: let's move on to the next step. THEN, MP broadcast A2, which HAD a fee. to a non-overlapping set of nodes. the disjunction of the two sets had a perfectly valid txn they... also didn't broadcast, because magic reasons.
mircea_popescu: well... if it's not a bettor then "for them A1 credits one of their addresses and so it sticks around forever for them" doesn't stick anymore.
mircea_popescu: as it isn't, per your theory, the case that "Whole world saw". just the set in question.
mircea_popescu: so far, we're with the assumption that "bettor with incentive was running one or more of the nodes mp connected to".
mircea_popescu: ~nobody saw it, somehow, hence questions about bitbet payouts.
mircea_popescu: also trivially meets the definition of "withholding txn", but w/e.
mircea_popescu: but, sure, "experience of that fraction of bitbet that does payouts", is right.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla it does not tell everyone what "i think", it tells everyone what i saw.
mircea_popescu: i looked into whatever i looked sufficient to satisfy myself.
mircea_popescu: it also says txn get thrown out of pools after x days.
mircea_popescu: congrats, you've formed a theory about a selection of the facts on record.
mircea_popescu: we discussed this that same day he made it. plox to check your copy of the logs.
mircea_popescu: with any luck it'll be something like "miner cartel, what a ridiculous idea - not like the anon derps involved are a) known to be idiots and b) have certain incentive do do exactly this! moreover, the much simpler explanation is that... uh... uh... mp conspiracy! and scam! and fraud! and he doesn't care about bitcoin! and i'm an idiot that'll show him!!11"
mircea_popescu: but, time's not wasted, go forth and write down your proposed simplest explanation.
mircea_popescu: PeterL this statement would be a lot less ridiculous had the "simplest explanation" been actually formed as the article even encourages the reader to do!
mircea_popescu: but in any case, there is a substantial difference between "i think X on the basis of my personal experience" and "mp said x on the basis of bitbet experience as documented on qntra". exactly of the sort and caliber as the difference between "i think there exist alien" and "here's pictures of man walking on the moon", in fact.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: as if everyone's a little bit everything and it all evens out or something, dunno.
mircea_popescu: somehow the difference between this and that keeps getting elided.
mircea_popescu: initially i thought that "nodes" is a meaningful term, but what i see now is a large ball of node with a bunch of sattelites that have ~ no importance flattering themselves into thinking they're part of a network.
mircea_popescu: also a minor point, but at least relevant re protocol discussion.
mircea_popescu: this is a minor point. there are better bits. such as - that an transaction known but not advertised constitutes the simple definition of "transaction withholding".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the way it worked, from the beginning, was that he did the site and i did admin and payouts.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: by all means. hence, " and if there's a single icann in the lot with enough actual gumption to put together a hostile takeover package, i'll certainly consider it."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: PeterL when the ceo of a company makes a stupid mistake, the company pays for it. there are exactly no exceptions to this rule, nor will there ever be. morever, even when what the ceo does isn't a stupid mistake, the shareholders still pay for it.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and i suppose i'm going to have my own legit complaints about how much this thing costs to run, and start billing by the hour, and in fiat, and the legit complainers can run off to the bank with their bitcoin and pay, or somesuch nonsense.
mircea_popescu: gumption to put together a hostile takeover package, i'll certainly consider it.
mircea_popescu: the shareholders can have all the legit complaints they want, about anything that happens whatsoever. we can all hold hands and sing kumbaya about our legit complaints that bitcoin doesn't work, and we would like it to, and it should be fixed by other people at their expense so we can continue our lifestyle undeterred. meanwhile - nonvoting shares can be sold, and if there's a single icann in the lot with enough actual
mircea_popescu: (imagine, as a subtopic, the wonder of computing if hardware came with guarantee "unless used for uinappropiate purpose" and then coders had to write code that didn't void any warranties.)
mircea_popescu: well it's certainly voiding the warranty, as that's not what the ram is for.
mircea_popescu: this however - you will conceivably need some sort of block indexing mechanism.
mircea_popescu: anyway. 2 has a much more obvious solution, if as discussed not exactly trivial and wtf are fibonacci stacks.
mircea_popescu: possibly on account of all the heralds of that idiocy getting shot.
mircea_popescu: and any "node" running that crap is ipso facto and for this non-compliant with bitcoin
mircea_popescu: it just turned a mild magic number ("get all the headers no less than 2000) into a fucking protocol limit. "only get 2k". this is utter nonsense.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: fortunately with that asshole mp killing moore's law, not terrible danger of pogos ever not being worth the 10 bux or w/e they cost.
mircea_popescu: i sitll have crates of the things in storage that will one day sing.
mircea_popescu: well.. actually that's still the idea, just we ended up running around with all sorts of subquests that turned mainline.
mircea_popescu: dooglus yeah. it's fully encapsulated, initial idea was to run it on pogos.
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.dooglus.2:3c6c25e386479486e1de0e81ec42ca24bfd40f96aa16d1252b39ca9e7d5e8af3
mircea_popescu: !rate dooglus 2 ran one of the best dice sites of all times, before being torpedoed by fiat government posturing. trb testing.
mircea_popescu: it'd be interesting if you managed to reproduce it in the lab.
mircea_popescu: something which may be related if not outright this is known here as blackholing