asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: l0l

asciilifeform: in other interesting nyooz, zoolag appears to be perma-blackholed.

asciilifeform: the 'nauceala' discussion brings to mind the 'hasna' thread

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/la-tati-ni-i-greu-or-the-pervy-romanians-etnobotanical-study/ <<l0l!

asciilifeform: 10:49 <+deedbot-> [Trilema] La tati ni-i greu, or "The pervy Romanians - etnobotanical study" -

asciilifeform: somethinglikethat.

asciilifeform: but i suppose people are quite like chess pieces, in the sense of having plastic mold tabs

asciilifeform does not recall breaking such a part

asciilifeform: blenders?

asciilifeform: do these folks fuck lawn mowers or what

asciilifeform: split?

asciilifeform: ever.

asciilifeform: they didn't detach those where i'm from

asciilifeform: vs my old burned out carcass.

asciilifeform: aha, that's what i meant

asciilifeform: i bet mircea_popescu still has his caffeine receptors.

asciilifeform: l0l neato.

asciilifeform: but i'm beginning to appreciate the merits of the fancy cooking machines: while people use them, they can still count as 'work'

asciilifeform: i can't be arsed.

asciilifeform: actually a few folks here have such things

asciilifeform: instead of drinking the machine.

asciilifeform: pretty much whole office treks across the town to get it

asciilifeform: i think the machine ~exists~ in order to make the gasoline-smelling 'starbux' swill taste great in comparison

asciilifeform: davout: this is not even what you probably think of as 'american coffee', this is a level down still

asciilifeform envious

asciilifeform: disconnects sockets every 10m or so

asciilifeform: not because anyone censors the pipe, but because the pipe is so ~burpy~

asciilifeform: it took some gymnastics

asciilifeform: astonishing that i managed to get an irc terminal going here

asciilifeform: phf: in prison one makes chess pieces from bread and piss, what else is there to do.

asciilifeform: the nozzle that pisses, is formed as part of the plastic cartridge when it ruptures

asciilifeform: most american offices use these now because they NEVER need to be cleaned

asciilifeform: there are a dozen types of shell, but the taste is always same

asciilifeform: well around here it comes from machine that takes plastic cartridges full of ??? and pisses out a dark and motor-oil-smelling fluid

asciilifeform: it is in same category as, e.g., office coffee

asciilifeform: git in my mind is inextricably linked with things i want to get away from and never see again.

asciilifeform: Mar 29 09:46:10 <phf>asciilifeform: https://github.com/cgwalters/git-evtag i know snore, but sort of follow up to recent git conversation << extreme sn0resportz

asciilifeform: industrial l0ltr0n1cs: http://www.dianacoman.com/2016/03/28/when-the-messenger-shoots-back/#comment-249

asciilifeform bbl.

asciilifeform: and not because it has to be free()'d and 'no one can possibly', but because of fragging.

asciilifeform: the c/unix malloc, that pretends to give you arbitrary blocks of N bytes on demand in O(1), is a pernicious fraud.

asciilifeform: rather than, to borrow mircea_popescu's old analogy, going about like idiot prole cow woman who 'falls pregnant whenever'

asciilifeform: except now you have to actually be conscious of it

asciilifeform: under the hood.

asciilifeform: sorta how 'malloc' normally works anyway

asciilifeform: mod6: aha, essentially a traditional allocator with several distinct types of fixed-size blocks

asciilifeform: <asciilifeform> in-betweens are for the birdz.

asciilifeform: <asciilifeform> max dynamism or max static.

asciilifeform: <asciilifeform> there are precisely TWO known sane approaches to programming a computer.

asciilifeform: as i described in #b-a

asciilifeform: quite !

asciilifeform: the result, sadly, is distinctly 'un-lispy'

asciilifeform: i wrote a good bit of this

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: sorta how you budget for max-whatever for every category, so as never to have to say 'i cannot pay the electric bill'

asciilifeform: (spoiler: ada aggressively promotes sanity, in particular here the item described by mircea_popescu roughly a year ago, which is that a program must occupy EXACTLY its maximal memory footprint at all times)

asciilifeform: re: the latter, see thread from ~1h ago

asciilifeform: mod6: correct

asciilifeform: funkenstein_ you oughta be ashamed.

asciilifeform: melted my brain right through the mouth, it did

asciilifeform: in other nyooz, the immunocompromise thing was accurate, already folks who oughta know better, on old planet, asked me if i'd host a powerranger idiot repo 'for trb'

asciilifeform: i recall this, iirc you nail their legs to the floor also

asciilifeform: the one with the crank.

asciilifeform: aha the goose-feeding tool

asciilifeform: i've never farmed ducks, are they typically debeaked ?

asciilifeform: english crud tends to not be on the net already

asciilifeform: mod6: will prolly have to scan 1st

asciilifeform: will dig out.

asciilifeform: it is in an old b00k of sexpathology i have somewhere.

asciilifeform: american legendary 19th c. folk hero davy crockett is said to have fucked whooping cranes. but he took off the head first.

asciilifeform: and i suspect meant 'fuckable opening'

asciilifeform: this was iirc plainly described in the original source

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: (the answer, afaik, is that you 'moved them' by flipping the mains current.)

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: how to move ~the broken hearts themselves~ is an exercise for the reader...

asciilifeform: (to finish off the 'broken hearts' - they let you defrag a memory without actually moving anything.)

asciilifeform: past n yearz.

asciilifeform: ( <assbot> Logged on 20-03-2014 14:20:09; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'cum se suge pula' << can't help but associate this in my head with the finnish proverb, 'Pillu se on pulullakin' )

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-02-2015#1001619 << ☝︎

asciilifeform: pulullakin !111

asciilifeform: memory locations with magican n+1th bit set, which behave as transparent pointer

asciilifeform: they existed on some variants of lispm

asciilifeform: you can also approximate this horror using 'broken hearts'

asciilifeform: ...never to reuse ram.

asciilifeform: so that's another way to have 'variable blox'

asciilifeform: and yeah i'm pretty sure we had it here.

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: where it doesn't actually make sense to erase.

asciilifeform: it is hypothetically possible, at least by napkin calculation, that one day memory device will be built , of usefully high capacity, that... wears out before you can ever fill it up

asciilifeform: incidentally, did we ever do the 'bottomless ram' thread ?

asciilifeform back

asciilifeform brb, food

asciilifeform: it is the habit of idlers like asciilifeform to sit around knitting silk for NO FUKCING good reason11111

asciilifeform: well yes, fella falling from the empire state building is a bit occupied, too busy to build a chute.

asciilifeform: (and he will pay the price of non- O(1) allocation.)

asciilifeform: but who ~really~ needs one, can build.

asciilifeform: but we have no such machine.

asciilifeform: i will point out that it is possible to build a physical machine that behaves as if it were possible to have multiple memories, and auto-defrags the space

asciilifeform: ahahahahaha